Ìéëþ*ôáò ìå áêñßâåéá, ôá *ïýìåñá ôïõ PS4 åß*áé ðáñÜ êÜôé óôá 30 åêáôïììýñéá ðùëÞóåéò.
Ïðüôå ìéëÜìå ãéá ôï 33%.
Ðïõ êáé ðÜëé, åß*áé ÃÌÓÅÔÁ ìåãÜëï ðïóïóôü áðïññüöçóçò.
(btw, ïýôå åãþ Ý÷ù êÜìåñá óôï PS4, äéüôé å*þ åß÷á áãïñÜóåé Camera + 2 Move ãéá ôï PS3, åðåéäÞ êáôÝëçîá* *á ôá âÜëù óôï* ass ìïõ......êáé åðåéäÞ âëÝðù ìçäáìé*Þ Ýùò á*ýðáñêôç õðïóôÞñéîç óôá õöéóôÜìå*á ðáé÷*ßäéá ãéá ôç* PS4 êÜìåñá.......üðùò êé åìåßò, ðïëýò êüóìïò äå* èá ôç* Ý÷åé)
Åãþ ðÜ*ôùò ìßëçóá ãéá 2-3 åêáôïììýñéá install base ôéò ðñþôåò åâäïìÜäåò,
á* îåêé*Þóåé ÷áëáñÜ ôï ðéèá*üôåñï åß*áé *á ðáôþóåé.
Èá ôïëìçóù *á êá*ù ìéá ðñïâëåøç. Ôï VR (ãå*éêá, ï÷é ìï*ï ôçò Sony) èá áðïôõ÷åé. Ôïõëá÷éóôï* óôç* óçìåñé*ç ôïõ ìïñöç, äå* îåñù ðùò èá åîåëé÷èåé ìåôá áðï êáðïéá ÷ñï*éá. Á* âåâáéá åîåëé÷èåé êáé äå* ðáåé óôï êïõâá ïðùò ôá Move êáé ôï 3D.
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Åãþ åß÷á ìåß*åé óôá 25 åê. Ãéá áõôü åßðá ó÷åäü* ôïõò ìéóïýò. ÁëëÜ êáé ðÜëé üðùò ëåò ôï 33% åß*áé ìåãÜëï ðïóïóôü.
Ìü*ï êáé ìü*ï áðï åäþ óôï öüñïõì *á êïéôÜîïõìå ðïõ áó÷ïëïýìáóôå êáé ðéï ðïëý ìå ôï ps4 êáé áò ðïýìå åßìáóôå ðéï hardcore gamers, äå* èõìÜìáé Üëëï* ðÝñá* ôïõ ÏäõóóÝá *á å*äéáöÝñåôáé ôüóï ðïëý ãéá ôï VR.
4-5 ðáéäéÜ *á Ý÷ïõ* ðåé ðùò ôïõò å*äéáöÝñåé ç ôå÷*ïëïãßá áëëÜ óßãïõñç áãïñÜ VR ìü*ï ï ÏäõóóÝáò.
¸óôù êáé óå áõôÞ ôç* ìéêñÞ êïé*üôçôá áõôü äåß÷*åé êÜôé.
Êáé óêåöôåßôå ðüóïé áðü ôïõò 30 åê ÷ñÞóôåò Ý÷ïõ* ôï ps4 áðïêëåéóôéêÜ ãéá 2-3 ðáé÷*ßäéá (sport games, Cod).
Ìéá áðü ôá ßäéá êáé óå ìÝ*á êÜìåñá êáé move. Áóå ðïõ ç êÜìåñá üðïôå Þèåëå äå* äïýëåõå êáëÜ ëüãù öùôéóìïý. Á* äçëáäÞ Ý÷åé ôá ßäéá èÝìáôá êáé ôïõ ps4 ç êÜìåñá *á ôç âñÜóù..
ÅéäéêÜ ðëÝï* ðïõ Ý÷ù ðÜåé ôç* êï*óüëá óå ðéï ìéêñü ÷þñï.
Spoiler!
ÊáëÜ, ìç* áêïýò åìÝ*á ôé ëÝù êáé áóêþ êñéôéêÞ.
ÊñéôéêÞ-êñéôéêÞ, áëëÜ ôï ìáñÜæé ìïõ ôï Ý÷ù áðü ôá late 80s: óßãïõñá èá ôï áãïñÜóù, á* ôï åðéôñÝðïõ* ôá ïéêï*ïìéêÜ ìïõ åêåß*ç ôç* åðï÷Þ.
KáëÜ åß*áé ðáëéÜ éóôïñßá ôï Virtual Reality.
ÈõìÜìáé ôç* äåêáåôßá ôïõ 90 ïé Maiden åß÷á* ôï VR óôï åîþöõëëï å*üò album ôïõò, (ôïõ Virtual XI óõãêåêñéìÝ*á)
üðïõ ï ðéôóéñéêÜò á*ôß *á ðáßæåé ìðÜëá óôï ãÞðåäï ôï Ýêá*å åéêï*éêÜ ìÝóù ôïõ VR headset.
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- Ãéáôß ôóéñßæåé ç ìáúìïý ðáéäÜêé ìïõ?
- Ðïéá ìáúìïý ñå ìÜ*á? ç ðñùôáãù*ßóôñéá åß*áé.
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EA on VR: "We'll really wait and see how big the market is going to be"
"There's some challenges still and I think the biggest challenge is just the size of the market. We don't make games anymore for the Wii or the Wii U because the market is not big enough, the PS Vita - the Sony product - we don't make games for that anymore because the market is too small, so it's all about the size of the market," said Blake Jorgensen during the UBS Global Technology Conference.
"As one of the largest software producers we have all of the manufacturers of equipment coming to us to try to sell us on their equipment and giving us development kits to try to build software for it. So we'll build software for various ones but we'll really wait and see how big the market is going to be."
Éäéá ôáêôéêç ìáëëï* èá áêïëïõèçóåé êáé ç MS, åá* äåé ïôé ðéá*åé óôï* êïóìï ôï VR, èá êá*åé ïôé êáèå öïñá, èá øáîåé *á âñåé êáðïéá åôáéñéá ðïõ öôéá÷*åé ôåôïéá ôå÷*ïëïãéá êáé èá ôç* áãïñáóåé.
Áó÷åôï ìå ôï PlayStation VR áëëÜ èá ãïýóôáñá ðïëý *á êõêëïöïñïýóá*å óôï PS store äéÜöïñåò ôÝôïéåò åìðåéñßåò óå åéêï*éêÞ ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá.
Óôï PS4 åß÷á*å á*áêïé*þóåé ôéìÞ êáé çìåñïìç*ßá êõêëïöïñßáò 5 ìÞ*åò ðñé*,
êÜôé á*Üëïãï ðåñßìå*á ÷èåò *á êÜ*ïõ* ãéá ôï VR áëëÜ ìÜôáéá.
ÓõìðÝñáóìá, ðñé* ôï* Éïý*éï ôïõ 16 äå* õðÜñ÷åé ðåñßðôùóç *á êõêëïöïñÞóåé.
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Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep
The retail PlayStation VR's processing box is about the size of a Wii
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PlayStation VR's external processor revealed
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Åêá*á ìéá ãõñá óçìåñá óôï web êáé åðåóá ðá*ù óå áõôï ôï èåìá óôï neogaf. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1161065 Ìå áöïñìç áõôï åøáîá ëéãï ðåñéóóïôåñï ôï* á*ôáãù*éóìï , êáèùò êáé ôá 3 óåô á*áìå*åôáé *á êõêëïöïñçóïõ* ôç* éäéá ðåñéðïõ ðåñéïäï.
Èá áñ÷éóù ìå áõôï ãéá ôï ïðïéï ã*ùñéæá ôá ëéãïôåñá, êáé åé*áé ôï ðïéï å*ôõðùóéáêï áðï ïëá, êáé åé*áé ôï HTC Vive. Ðåñá áðï ôç* ìåãáëõôåñç á*áëõóç óôç* ïèï*ç, áõôï ðïõ ôï êá*åé *á îå÷ùñéæåé , åé*áé ïôé ðñïóðáèïõ* *á äçìéïõñãçóïõ* å*á early holodeck. Ìå å*á óõóôçìá "öáñù*" äåóìåõïõ* å*á* ÷ùñï 4.5÷4.5 ìåôñá ìåóá óôï* ïðïéï ìðïñåéò *á êé*çèåéò åëåõèåñá, äé*åé äçëáäç ìéá ìç óôáôéêç åìðåéñéá , ðïõ å* ìåñåé ìðïñïõ* *á å÷ïõ* êáé ïé á*ôáãù*éóôåò, áëëá ï÷é ìå áõôï ôï åðéðåäï tracking êáé collition warning ðïõ å÷åé ôï Vive. Ðñïóùðéêá äå* ôï âëåðù *á ðéá*åé ãéá ôïõò åîçò ëïãïõò:
1. ×ñåéáæåôáé ãéá *á äïõëåøåé å*á áñêåôá éó÷õñï PC
2. ×ñåéáæåôáé å*á* ÷ùñï áðïêëåéóôéêá áöéåñùìå*ï óå áõôï, äå* ìðïñù áò ðïõìå áðëá *á ôï âáëù óôï óáëï*é ìïõ.
3. Ëïãéêá èá åé*áé ôï áêñéâïôåñï áð'ïëá.
Èá Ìðïñïõóá ïìùò *á öá*ôáóôù, áéèïõóåò ïðùò åé÷áìå ðáëéá ôéò arcade áéèïõóåò, óôéò ïðïéåò èá ìðïñåé êáðïéïò *á ðáåé *á ôï áðïëáõóåé, óå éäá*éêåò óõ*èçêåò (ï÷é åðéðëá, êáðïéï óõóôçìá ìå ñáãåò ãéá ôï êáëùäéï óôï ôáâá*é, ôåñáò õðïëïãéóôç)
Ôï Rift ôùñá åé*áé ðïëõ êï*ôá óå specs ìå ôï Vive, êáé åé*áé êáé ôï ðñùôï ðïõ îåêé*çóå ôç* VR åðï÷ç. Ìåãáëï ôïõ ìåéï*åêôçìá êáé åäù ôï ïôé èåëåé å*á ôåñáò PC ãéá *á äïõëåøåé, êáé óå áõôï èá ðñåðåé *á õðïëïãéóïõìå êáé ôç* ïðïéá áóõ*åðåéá óôï performance ìðïñåé *á ðñïêõøåé, ôï ïðïéï èá äçìéïõñãçóåé Motion sickness. Ïðùò êáé ôï Vive ðï*ôáñïõn óôï sweet spot ôù* 90 fps. Áðï ôéìç ôï ðñïâëåðù *á åé*áé óôá åðéðåäá ôù* 300$ , áëëá ÷ñåéáæåóáé ðïëëáðëáóéï êïóôïò ãéá *á ÷ôéóåéò êáé ôï á*ôéóôïé÷ï PC.
Ç sony ìå ôï PSVR äåé÷*åé *á å÷åé ðéáóåé êáëõôåñá áðï êáèå áëëï ôï ôé ÷ñåéáæåôáé *á êá*åé ãéá *á å÷åé ìéá åðéôõ÷çìå*ç óõóêåõç. Ôï headset áðï ïëåò ôéò å*ôõðùóåéò ðïõ äéáâáóá, åé*áé ôï åëáöñõôåñï êáé ôï ðïéï á*åôï. Ôï êïóôïò ôïõ ôï åêôéìù êáé åäù óôá 300$, óõ* áëëá 350 ç êï*óïëá , åé*áé ìáêñá* ç öèç*ïôåñç ëõóç ãéá êáðïéï* ðïõ ôï* å*äéáöåñåé ôï VR. Åêåé ðïõ ïìùò åêá*å äéá*á, åé*áé óôç* ðñïóèçêç ôïõ êïõôéïõ, ðïõ êá*åé êáé ôï Reprojection, ôç* ôå÷*éêç äçëáäç äéðëáóéáóìïõ ôù* frames. Ìáëéóôá ãéá *á åé*áé áêïìá ðïéï áóöáëçò ôï äéêï ôçò VR åé*áé óôá 120 Fps å*á*ôé 90 ôù* á*ôáãù*éóôù*.
H Sony ,çîåñå áðï ôç* áñ÷ç, ïôé ôï ðá* óôï VR åé*áé ôï performance, åôóé öñï*ôéóå *á åîáöá*éæåé ôï* ðïéï áäõ*áìï êñéêï áðï ôç* åîéóùóç , ôï éäéï ôï ps4 äçëáäç ìå ôï êïõôáêé ðïõ óõ*ïäåõåé ôç* óõóêåõç. Åôóé ïé developers äå* ÷ñåéáæåôáé *á ñéîïõ* ôá ãñáöéêá åôóé ùóôå *á ðéáóïõ* ôïõò óôï÷ïõò ôù* 90 Þ 120 êáñå, ìðïñïõ* *á êá*ïõ* ôï ðáé÷*éäé ôïõò *á ôñå÷åé óôá 1080@60 êáé ôï êïõôé ôï êá*åé 1080@120. Ìáëéóôá ëïãù ôïõ ãåãï*ïôïò ïôé ç sony âáæåé 120hz panels, å÷ïõ* ðåñéèùñéï áêïìá êáé ãéá ìç óôáèåñç áðïäïóç óôá 60 êáñå, êáèùò å*á ðáé÷*éäé ìðïñåé *á ðåóåé áêïìá êáé óôá 45 êáñå, áëëá ðáëé *á âãáæåé ôá 90 ðïõ å÷åé óá* ïñéï ï á*ôáãù*éóìïò.
Óôï êïììáôé ôïõ Software áêïìá äå* å÷ïõìå åðáñêç äåéãìáôá, á* êáé ç sony äåé÷*åé *á ñé÷*åé ðïëõ ðåñéóóïôåñïõò ðïñïõò óôç* á*áðôõîç ðáé÷*éäéù* ãéá VR. Ëåéðåé ïìùò áêïìá å*á Killer app, ðïõ èá äùóåé ôç* áðáñáéôçôç ðñùôç ùèçóç ãéá ôïõò early adopters. Èá åé*áé áõôï ôï öçìïëïãïõìå No Man's Sky VR? èá ðñåðåé *á êá*ïõìå ëéãï õðïìï*ç áêïìá ãéá *á ôï ìáèïõìå.
Äõï ÷ñï*éá õðïìï*ç êá*ïõìå.
teras1 (23-12-2015)
ÂÜëôå êáé ìÝ*á óôïõò áãïñáóôÝò ôïõ PSVR.
Èá åß*áé áãïñÜ ðñþôçò ìÝñáò åöüóï* ôï åðéôñÝøïõ* ïé óõ*èÞêåò.
Åßìáé ðåðåéóìÝ*ïò üôé èá ðéÜóåé êáé èá Ý÷åé ìåãÜëç åðéôõ÷ßá. Áõôü ðïõ èá ÷ñåéáóôåß èá åß*áé *á ìç* Ýñ÷åôáé ìü*ï ìå demos üìùò. Èá ÷ñåéáóôåß *á ðåñéëáìâÜ*åé ïðùóäÞðïôå Ýóôù Ý*á full ðáé÷*ßäé üðùò ôï RIGS ãéá *á óå êÜ*åé *á *éþóåéò üôé áîßæåé ôç* áñ÷éêÞ åðÝ*äõóç.
Áðü åêåß êáé ðÝñá õðÜñ÷ïõ* ôá Ace Combat, DOAX3, GT Sport êáé Driveclub, óõ* ôá indies ðïõ óßãïõñá èá âãïý* *ùñßò êáé ßóùò êáé ôï NMS.
Ôï PSVR äå* åß*áé ðåñéöåñåéáêü þóôå *á óõãêñß*åôáé ìå Move, Kinect, Wii êáé ëïéðÜ. Ôï á*ôéìåôùðßæïõ* óá* ðëáôöüñìá ìå full õðïóôÞñéîç ç ïðïßá óßãïõñá îåêß*çóå ðñé* ôï ëá*óÜñéóìá ôïõ PS4.
Êáëü èá Þôá* ç Sony *á "öÜåé" êáé ôï êüóôïò ôçò êÜìåñáò êáé ôù* moves êáé *á ôá óõìðåñéëÜâåé ùò bundle ÷ùñßò *á áõîÞóåé ôç* ôéìÞ ôïõ ðáêÝôïõ PSVR. ¶ëëùóôå áõôÜ äå* ôçò êïóôßæïõ* ôßðïôá ðëÝï*.
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To ðáñáðá*ù åé*áé ëáèïò, ôï ðáñáêáôù video ðïõ åé÷å âáëåé ï PDS ðñé* ìåñéêá ðïóô ôï åîçãåé á*áëõôéêá ðùò äïõëåõåé ôï reprojection.
Ðñùôï* , ðáñïôé åé*áé 2d åðåîåñãáóéá ôçò åéêï*áò, äå* ãé*åôáé óôï êïõôáêé ïðùò *ïìéæá, áëëá ìåóù software óôç* GPU ôïõ ps4. Ìåôá å÷åé *ïçìá ìï*ï ãéá ôç* êé*çóç ôçò êáìåñáò, êáèùò å*á á*ôéêåéìå*ï ðïõ èá êé*åéôáé óôç* ïèï*ç, èá óõ*å÷éóåé *á êé*åéôáé ìå 60fps . Ôåëïò ëå*å ïôé ôá 60 åé*áé ôï bare minimum ãéá ôï VR ìå ôç* ðñïõðïèåóç ïôé ÷ñçóéìïðïéåéò ôï reprojection ãéá *á áðïöõãåéò öáé*ïìå*á *áõôéáò. Äåéôå ôï ðáñáðá*ù video, åé*áé ìéá ðïëõ êáëç ôå÷*éêç á*áëõóç ôïõ PSVR, êáé ãå*éêïôåñá ôïõ VR, áðï ôéò êáëõôåñåò ðïõ å÷ù äåé.
teras1 (25-12-2015)
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