thread: ÌéêñÜ Ã*åá êáé rumors ãéá PS4 all in one Thread

  1. #2961
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Oct 2008
    2,891

    Aõôï ðïõ öáÃ*ôáóôéêá áñ÷éêá åéÃ*áé ïôé ôï ãñáöïõÃ* áõôï óå áÃ*ôéèåóç ìå ôá free to play ðïõ åéÃ*áé êáèáñá online õðïèåóç. Ìå ôçÃ* ðñïõðïèåóç ïìùò ïôé èá ìðïñåéò Ã*á ôá áãïñáæåéò óôá êáôáóôçìáôá ïðùò ôá õðïëïéðá.

  2. #2962
    Moderator
    Oct 2007
    10,480
    PSN ID
    hakoo_

    ÄåÃ* åéÃ*áé ìïÃ*ï ôá free to play, õðáñ÷ïõÃ* êáé ðáé÷Ã*éäéá ðïõ èá åéÃ*áé retail áëëá èá åéÃ*áé online only ïðùò Destiny, The Crew, The Division, ÔitanFall êôë.
    Ðñåðåé Ã*á áÃ*áãñáöåôáé óôï êïõôé Ã*ïìéæù êáôé ôåôïéï.


  3. AgentPrinny007 (11-11-2013)

  4. #2963
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Oct 2008
    2,891

    Å÷åéò áðïëõôï äéêéï, ôá åé÷á îå÷áóåé áõôá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá

  5. #2964
    Elite
    Jan 2008
    1,144
    PSN ID
    kdim87

    ÐÜÃ*ôùò ðùò êáôáÃ*ôÞóáìå ñå ðáéäéÜ ìåôÜ áðü ÷ñüÃ*éá! Åêåß ðïõ óôï ðáñåëèüÃ* óáÃ* ÷áñáêôçñéóôéêü áÃ*áãñáöüôáÃ* ôï "Online Play Available" ðëÝïÃ* ëüãù ðïëéôéêþÃ* EA, MS ê.ë.ð. ìáò ãñÜöïõÃ* "Offline Play Enabled". ÄåÃ* îÝñù áëëÜ ìïõ ÝêáÃ*å êÜðùò üôáÃ* ôï äéÜâáóá.

    Spoiler!

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  7. #2965
    Cool Member
    Feb 2010
    Athens, Greece, Greece
    150
    PSN ID
    SPARTIAN-GR-

    Áõôï ôï âñçêá óôï Gaf êáé åéÃ*áé áðï ôï êïõôé ôïõ COD áÃ* äåÃ* êáÃ*ù ëáèïò.


    Êáìéá éäåá ãéá ôï ôé åéÃ*áé ôï offline play enabled? Ç ãéá ôï ôé ìðïñåé Ã*á óçìáéÃ*åé? ÄåÃ* ðñåðåé Ã*á åéÃ*áé ôõ÷áéï...
    49GB ÌÉÍÉÌUM ìáëéóôá êïéÃ*ùò ðáìå ïëïé ìáæé ãéá óêëçñï äåÃ* ðñïêåôáé ôá 500 Ã*á öôáóïõÃ* ïõôå ãéá áåñá

  8. #2966
    Elite
    Jan 2008
    1,144
    PSN ID
    kdim87



    Äõóôõ÷þò ôï âëÝðù Ã*á Ýñ÷åôáé! Áëëéþò äåÃ* õðÞñ÷å ëüãïò Ã*á ôï ãñÜøïõÃ*! øéëïîåÃ*Ýñùóá Ã*á ðù ôçÃ* áëÞèåéá, áëëÜò áò ìçÃ* âéáæüìáóôå.

    Spoiler!

  9. #2967
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Feb 2010
    3,570
    Name
    ÃéÜííçò

    "7. Resale
    7.1. You must not resell either Disc-based Software or Software Downloads, unless expressly authorised by us and, if the publisher is another company, additionally by the publisher."
    ÄçëáäÞ ðñÝðåé Ã*á Ý÷ïõìå Üäåéá ãéá Ã*á ðïõëÞóïõìå ìåôá÷åéñéóìÝÃ*á ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá; êáôÜëáâá êáëÜ;

  10. #2968
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Oct 2008
    2,891

    ÄçëáäÞ ðñÝðåé Ã*á Ý÷ïõìå Üäåéá ãéá Ã*á ðïõëÞóïõìå ìåôá÷åéñéóìÝÃ*á ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá; êáôÜëáâá êáëÜ;
    Ìá óôç å÷åé äùóåé ôçÃ* áäåéá Ã*á ôï êáÃ*åéò....ãéá ôçÃ* ùñá...
    Áðëá ìçÃ* åêðëáãåéò áìá êáðïéá óôéãìç ôï ðáñåé ðéóù.


  11. #2969
    Stealth Moderator
    Jan 2008
    Outer Heaven
    32,600
    Name
    ÄçìÞôñçò

    Ìá óôç å÷åé äùóåé ôçÃ* áäåéá Ã*á ôï êáÃ*åéò....ãéá ôçÃ* ùñá...
    Áðëá ìçÃ* åêðëáãåéò áìá êáðïéá óôéãìç ôï ðáñåé ðéóù.
    áì ìðñáâï êáëá åêáÃ*åò êáé ôï åéðåò ãéáôé åôóé åéÃ*áé. Ç óïÃ*õ å÷åé áõôçÃ* ôçÃ* óôéãìç, äùóåé ôçÃ* áäåéá ãéá Ã*á áÃ*ôáëëáóïÃ*ôáé ôá ðáé÷ éäéá êáÃ*ïÃ*éêá. Ç ñçôñá áõôç õðáñ÷åé êõñéùò ãéá ôïõò developers ïðïõ åêåé åéÃ*áé èåìá äéêï ôïõò ïðùò êáÃ*ïÃ*éêá áðï ôçÃ* ðñùôç óôéãìç åé÷å ðåé ç ÓïÃ*õ êáé åðéóçò õðáñ÷åé åðåéäç êáðïéá óôéãìç ç ÓïÃ*õ èåëåé Ã*á å÷åé ôï ðáñáèõñáêé Ã*á ìðïñåé Ã*á åöáñìïóåé êáé åêåéÃ*ç êáôé ôåôïéï.

    Ïìùò áõôç ôç óôéãìç åéÃ*áé êáñéâùò ïðùò ôá îåñáìå ïëá. Ôï ðáñáèõñáêé õðáñ÷åé ãéáôé ðïéïò îåñåé, êáðïéá óôéãìç ìðïñåé ôï êïëðï ôçò MS Ã*á ðéáóåé êáé ç óïÃ*õ èåëåé Ã*á å÷åé êáé åêåéÃ*ç ôçÃ* åðéëïãç Ã*á ðáéîåé ìðáëá
    êáé Ã*á ÷åóôåé óôï ôáëçñï.

  12. Dikakom (11-11-2013)

  13. #2970
    Elite
    Sep 2007
    854
    PSN ID
    apoksenosi

    'Ï,ôé ßó÷õå ðÜÃ*ôá éó÷õåé êáé ôþñá ....http://web.playstation.sk/terms/softwareusage.html

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  15. #2971
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Oct 2008
    2,891

    Áñá ðáåé êáé áõôïò ï óõÃ*áãåñìïò...ó÷åäïÃ*. Ôé óôï êáëï ,ïëï ãêñéÃ*éáæù óçìåñá. ÌáëëïÃ* èá öôáéåé ï êáéñïò

  16. #2972
    Forum GOD
    Apr 2008
    ÁèÞíá
    10,889
    PSN ID
    Lefteris_X

    áðü üóï äéÜâáóá êáé åñìÞÃ*åõóá áðü ôï ïðéóèüöõëëï ôïõ Killzone, Ý÷ïõìå ôá åîÞò:

    * 1-2 Players = ðáßîéìï ôïõ ðáé÷Ã*éäéïý ìå ÝÃ*áÃ* Þ äýï ðáßêôåò ôáõôü÷ñïÃ*á óôçÃ* ßäéá êïÃ*óüëá (áÃ* èá åßÃ*áé co-op åéäéêÝò ðßóôåò/óåÃ*Üñéá Þ ôáõôü÷ñïÃ*ç óõììåôï÷Þ óôï main campaign, äåÃ* ôï ãÃ*ùñßæù, ãéáôß äåÃ* Ý÷ù åìâáèýÃ*åé ãåÃ*éêüôåñá óôï franchise. Åðßóçò, üðùò åßÃ*áé ëïãéêü, èá ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèåß split screen ãéá ôçÃ* óõììåôï÷Þ äýï ðáéêôþÃ*).

    * 1-18 Network Players = Ã*ïìßæù üôé ìáñôõñÜ áðü ìüÃ*ï ôïõ ôé óçìáßÃ*åé, üôé óå äéáäéêôõáêü ðáé÷Ã*ßäé, óõììåôÝ÷ïõÃ* áðü ÝÃ*áò Ýùò äåêáïêôþ ðáßêôåò ôáõôü÷ñïÃ*á (Ýêáóôïò áðü ôçÃ* äéêÞ ôïõ êïÃ*óüëá).

    * Offline Play Enabled = óçìáßÃ*åé üôé ï ôßôëïò ìðïñåß Ã*á ôñÝîåé áêüìá êáé áÃ* äåÃ* Ý÷åéò ÊÁÈÏËÏÕ Internet ðÜÃ*ù óôï PS4. ÖõóéêÜ, äåÃ* Ý÷åéò Internet = äåÃ* ðáßæåéò online üðùò åßÃ*áé êáé ôï ëïãéêü, åÃ*ôïýôïéò ìðïñåßò Ã*á ðáßîåéò ìå ÝÃ*áÃ* ößëï, óôçÃ* ßäéá êïÃ*óüëá (1-2 Players).

    ôá õðüëïéðá Ã*ïìßæù äåÃ* ÷ñåéÜæïÃ*ôáé åîÞãçóç!

    (áÃ* êáé áõôü ôï "minimum" ãéá ôá 49GB åãêáôÜóôáóçò, ìå áÃ*çóõ÷åß êÜðùò. Ôé åóôß ìßÃ*éìïõì; ¼,ôé äçëáäÞ åÃ*äÝ÷åôáé ôï install Ã*á îåðåñÜóåé áõôü ôï Ã*ïýìåñï; Êáé êáôÜ ðüóï èá îåðåñÜóåé; Êáé ãéáôß ôÝôïéá áïñéóôßá óôçÃ* ôåëéêÞ; Ðåñßåñãá ðñÜìáôá.)

  17. #2973
    Moderator
    Dec 2008
    Helghan after the bomb (aka Athens)
    7,086
    PSN ID
    Nek_Food

    Ôï offline enabled åßÃ*áé ê***äÜêôõëï óôçÃ* MS êáèþò ôï Ghosts äåÃ* ìðïñåß Ã*á ðáßîåé offline êáèüëïõ óôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá ôçò, ôïõëÜ÷éóôïÃ* ìÝ÷ñé Ã*á óõÃ*äåèåß óôï äéáäßêôõï êáé êÜÃ*åé ôï day1 firmware update. Simple and clear... trolling, I think. Ôá free2play äåÃ* èá ôá äïýìå óå retail ìïñöÞ Ã*ïìßæù, ôï Destiny êëð èá ôï ãñÜöïõÃ* üôé åßÃ*áé online only áÃ* åßÃ*áé ôÝôïéá ìüÃ*ï.

  18. #2974
    Forum GOD
    May 2008
    ÍÝá Óìýñíç
    9,732
    PSN ID
    DJ-Paris7
    Name
    ÐÜñçò

    ôï minimum óçìáéÃ*åé ïôé óçìáéÃ*å ðáÃ*ôá êáé óôï ps3 ð÷ ôï install êáÃ*åé 49 ãéãá áëëá áÃ* å÷åé âãåé patch 1gb áõôï äåÃ* åéÃ*áé õðïëïãéóìåÃ*ï óôá 49.

  19. #2975
    Homo Ludens
    May 2011
    14,941
    PSN ID
    Leon_DiZ
    Name
    Ëåùíßäáò


    Call it installation or call it caching, but the bottom line is that you will have to save large chunks of PlayStation 4 games to the system's hard drive. It's not an option. It's mandatory on Sony's next-gen system. Today, at a stylish waterfront hotel in New York City that's been taken over by Sony for all things PS4, the system's lead architect, Mark Cerny, explained just how these requirements work.

    If you are playing a disc-based game, the system will begin caching the disc when you put it in the console and get ready to play. The game is saving part of itself to the system's hard drive. The amount of data that has to be saved before you can start will vary per title.

    Cerny said that for the launch game he directed, Knack, users should only have to wait 10s of seconds to play the game. After that, as you play, the game will stream more content to the console's 500GB hard drive. Knack will use 37GB of space overall, as noted on the game's box. Obviously, it won't take many games to fill the console's hard drive.

    Cached/installed game data will stay on the hard drive until the user deletes it. Cerny said that there had been some internal discussions at Sony about having the PS4 auto-delete installed data from games that players hadn't used in a while. They decided against it, figuring that gamers would never want to feel "blindsided" and would prefer to make their data management decisions manually. Probably a good choice!

    The disc installation is required on PS4 because the console is not designed to read games off of discs. It's not a PlayStation issue. It's a physics issue. The machine may have a Blu-Ray drive that's about three times faster than the PS3 with about six times as much memory, but it's still more expedient for it to read data from its own hard drive. Cerny said his team had heard too many complaints from current-gen developers about having to wait to load in new levels of games. Putting the data on the readily-accessible hard drive alleviates that.

    Not surprisingly, Microsoft's Xbox One requires installation from Blu-Ray, too, and only runs games off the hard drive.

    If a PS4 user decides to download a game, they will have to wait longer to play. Cerny couldn't provide as narrow an estimate on how long a player who decided to download Knack would have to wait. That depends in large part on a user's Internet connection speed. Ideally, he said, they wouldn't have to wait more than an hour before beginning to play the partially downloaded games. Other games may be set up differently, allowing users to start playing them sooner or requiring them to wait longer. With these kinds of download speeds and requirements, players may want to queue their PS4 downloads long before they want to start gaming or download in the background while doing something else. Or just drive to the store and get a disc.
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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  21. #2976
    Moderator
    Dec 2008
    Helghan after the bomb (aka Athens)
    7,086
    PSN ID
    Nek_Food

    Ôï Ã*á áðïöáóßæïõìå åìåßò ôé Ã*á äéáãñÜøïõìå êáé Ã*á ìçÃ* Ý÷åé ôåëéêÜ auto erase feature Ã*ïìßæù åéÃ*áé ç êáëýôåñç åðéëïãç, ôï åß÷á ðåé üôé Ý÷ù åðéöõëÜîåéò óå êÜôé ôÝôïéï. ¶ñá ôï ïÃ*ïìÜæïõÃ* cashing åðåéäÞ ôï êÜÃ*åé üóïé þñá êáé êáëÜ ðáßæåéò, áëëÜ ïõóéáóôéêÜ åßÃ*áé üðùò åß÷á õðïèÝóåé mandatory full installation. ÃåÃ*éêÜ äåÃ* âëÝðù åêðëÞîåéò óå üôé ïõóéáóôéêÜ îÝñáìå, áðëÜ åðéâåâáßùóç ôïõò.

  22. #2977
    Banned Forum GOD
    Feb 2010
    8,378

    ÅðéôÝëïõò êáé ìéá áðüöáóç õðÝñ ôùÃ* gamers.

  23. #2978
    Homo Ludens
    May 2011
    14,941
    PSN ID
    Leon_DiZ
    Name
    Ëåùíßäáò

    ÅðéôÝëïõò êáé ìéá áðüöáóç õðÝñ ôùÃ* gamers.
    Ìéá;;;!!!
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

  24. #2979
    Banned Forum GOD
    Feb 2010
    8,378

    Ìéá;;;!!!
    Å Ã*áé, ìå áõôÜ ðïõ áêïýìå ôåëåõôáßá. Ìéá ôï öéÜóêï ìå ôá 3.5GB RAM ãéá ôï video recording êáé ôþñá áõôü ìå ôïõò üñïõò ÷ñÞóçò:

    http://www.enternity.gr/Article/%CE%...ony/19983.html

    Ãéá ôá ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá äéåõêñéÃ*ßóôçêå ôé éó÷ýåé, ðáñáìÝÃ*åé üìùò ôï ðáñáêÜôù:

    "Ç Sony ëßãï ðñéÃ* ôçÃ* åðßóçìç êõêëïöïñßá ôïõ PlayStation 4, áÃ*áÃ*Ýùóå ôïõò üñïõò ÷ñÞóçò ëïãéóìéêïý ãéá ôï PlayStation Network êáé öáßÃ*åôáé Ã*á áëëÜæïõÃ* êÜðïéá… äåäïìÝÃ*á, áöïý ìÝóá áðü áõôïýò ðñïêýðôåé üôé ç éáðùÃ*éêÞ åôáéñåßá èá åßÃ*áé óå èÝóç Ã*á ðáñáêïëïõèåß ôéò äñáóôçñéüôçôåò ôùÃ* ÷ñçóôþÃ* ôçò åÃ* ëüãù õðçñåóßáò êáé èá ìðïñåß Ã*á ðáñåìâáßÃ*åé üðïôå áõôü èåùñåßôáé áðáñáßôçôï. Áõôü óçìáßÃ*åé üôé õðü óõÃ*èÞêåò, ôá ìçÃ*ýìáôá ôùÃ* ÷ñçóôþÃ* èá ðáñáêïëïõèïýÃ*ôáé/äéáãñÜöïÃ*ôáé ÷ùñßò êáìßá åéäïðïßçóç, åÃ*þ êÜðïéá èá ðñïùèïýÃ*ôáé óå èõãáôñéêÝò åôáéñåßåò ðñïêåéìÝÃ*ïõ Ã*á äéáóöáëéóôåß ç çëåêôñïÃ*éêÞ áóöÜëåéá. ÓõãêåêñéìÝÃ*á, ç Sony äéåõêñéÃ*ßæåé üôé ïé ðëçñïöïñßåò ðïõ èá óõëëÝãïÃ*ôáé (öùÃ*çôéêü ðåñéå÷üìåÃ*ï, videos ðáé÷Ã*éäéþÃ*, äéåõèýÃ*óåéò ID, äéåõèýÃ*óåéò IP êôë.) èá ìðïñïýÃ* Ã*á ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèïýÃ* áðü ôçÃ* ßäéá Þ áðü óõÃ*åñãáæüìåÃ*åò åôáéñåßåò ðñïêåéìÝÃ*ïõ Ã*á «ðñïóôáôåõèïýÃ* ôá äéêáéþìáôá ôüóï ôùÃ* äéêáéïý÷ùÃ*, üóï êáé ôùÃ* ÷ñçóôþÃ*, êáèþò êáé ãéá Ã*á ðñïóôáôåõôåß ç ðñïóùðéêÞ áóöÜëåéáò ôùÃ* åñãáæïìÝÃ*ùÃ* êáé ôùÃ* ÷ñçóôþÃ*»."

  25. #2980
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Dec 2008
    Silent Hill
    4,333
    PSN ID
    chronohill

    ñå ðáéäéá ìïÃ*ï óå ìåÃ*á ìïõ öáéÃ*åôáé ïôé èá îáÃ*áîåìåéÃ*ïõìå áðï ÷ùñï êáé óôçÃ* åðïìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éá?Äçëáäç áÃ* èåëåé ôï êáèå ðáé÷Ã*éäé áðï 30-40 gb áÃ*áãêáóôéêï installation èá ðñåðåé ðáëé Ã*á äéáãñáöïõìå êáé Ã*á "ôóéããïõÃ*åõïìáóôå" ÷ùñï?èá åéÃ*áé óå ïëá ìá ïëá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá áÃ*áãêáóôéêç ç åãêáôáóôáóç?
    Spoiler!