ÌéΓͺñÜ Γ*Γ₯Γ‘ ΓͺÑé rumors ãéÑ PS4 all in one Thread

[psx3]

ItΒ’s not like we actively decided “Yeah, letΒ’s not do this feature so that people will subscribe to Music Unlimited…” ItΒ’s not like that.

ÌÑò ÝðΓ₯éóΓ₯Γ² Γ¬Γ₯ãÜëΓ₯...

[Nek_Food]

BS... ÎÝ÷ÑóÑΓ* ôÑ mp3s ÑëëÜ ôÑ music/video unlimited Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé day1 óôçΓ* ΓͺΓ―Γ*óüëÑ. Yeah, right... ΒΈΓ·Γ―Γ΅Γ* ÒÜëΓ₯Γ© óôçΓ* ΓͺΓ―Γ*óüëÑ day1 13 Üó÷Γ₯Γ΄Γ₯Γ² Γ¬Γ₯ ôï gaming áðçñΓ₯óßΓ₯Γ², ôï Γ‘Γ* èÑ ðÑßæΓ₯Γ© mp3s Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ðïá ÑðÑéôïýóΓ₯ ôïΓ* ÀýóΓͺïëï ΓͺÑé Γ₯ðéðëÝïΓ* ðñïãñÑììÑôéóìü. ÔÝôïéΓ₯Γ² ìëΓͺΓ² Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* ìÑò ÝëΓ₯ãÑΓ* ΓͺÑé üëÑ èÑ ÞôÑΓ* ìßÑ ÷ÑñÜ. ÐΓ₯Γ² ìïá üôé ΓͺÑé ôÑ 3GB ðïá ðÜΓ*Γ₯ óôñÜâé Γ¬Γ₯ Γ₯ðßΓͺΓ₯Γ*ôñï ôï gaming ôÑ ΓͺΓΌΓΈΓ‘Γ*Γ₯ ΓͺÑé ΓΌΓ·Γ© ãéÑ ôï socializing ΓͺÑé ãéÑ ÷Ñ÷Ñ÷ïý÷Ñ ΓͺïßôÑ ôé ÝΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯Àþ... Γ‹Γ₯Γ² ΓͺÑé Γ―Γ© óïÒÑñïß gamers Γ‘Γ* ôïáò ñùôïýóÑΓ* èÑ óáìâùΓ*Γ―Γ½Γ³Γ‘Γ*, Þ Γ‘Γ* èÝëÑΓ*Γ₯ Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺÜΓ*Γ―Γ΅Γ* video streaming ôï gameplay ôïáò, èÑ æçôïýóÑΓ* ôï 40% ôçò éó÷ýïò ôçò ΓͺΓ―Γ*óüëÑò ãéÑ ÝΓ*Γ‘ ôÝôÑñôï ÒßΓ*Γ΄Γ₯Γ―.

[Leon_DiZ]

ΓΓΓΓ‘ΓΓ„Γ…ΓŠΓ”Γ!!! ÊÑìéÑ ÀéΓͺÑéïëïãéÑ. Åëðéæù Γ*Γ‘ ìðΓ₯Γ© ðïëá ãñçãïñÑ óôï OS.

Trophies still need to be synced on Playstation 4........yeah

Gerstmann from Giant Bomb says so here.

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/a-...nfo/1100-4785/


I find it amazing that Sony still can't find a way to make this invisible to the user, like Microsoft did at the launch of the 360 in 2005. That was 8 years ago. Sony gotta do something about that firmware team. :/

[psx3]

Γ„Γ₯Γ* ôï ÞΓ�Γ₯Γ±Γ‘ üôé ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ óôï XBOX360. ÁΓ* ΓͺÑé Γ*ïìßæù Γ―Γ© Γ°Γ₯ñéóóüôΓ₯Γ±Γ―Γ© èÑ Ý÷ïáìΓ₯ PS+ ΓͺÑé Ýôóé ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ ΓͺÜèΓ₯ ìÝñÑ.

[Leon_DiZ]

Γ„Γ₯Γ* ôï ÞΓ�Γ₯Γ±Γ‘ üôé ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ óôï XBOX360. ÁΓ* ΓͺÑé Γ*ïìßæù Γ―Γ© Γ°Γ₯ñéóóüôΓ₯Γ±Γ―Γ© èÑ Ý÷ïáìΓ₯ PS+ ΓͺÑé Ýôóé ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ ΓͺÜèΓ₯ ìÝñÑ.

ÈÑ Γ₯ðñΓ₯Γ°Γ₯ Γ*Γ‘ ãéΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôïìÑôÑ Γ¬Γ₯ ôï ðïá ðÑéñΓ*Γ₯éò ôï trophy! Ôï Γ₯ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ₯ Γ§ Apple Γ¬Γ₯ 256ΓŒΓ‚ RAM, Γ§ Sony Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© 3,5GB!

[psx3]

Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ‘Γ*ôéëÝãù üôé Γ€Γ₯Γ* áðÜñ÷ïáΓ* Γ΄Γ₯Γ·Γ*Γ©ΓͺÜ Γ₯ìðüÀéÑ (Γ₯Γͺôüò ßóùò Ñðü ÑáΓ�çìÝΓ*Γ― âüñôï óôïáò servers ôïá PSN), ÑðëÜ Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ¬Γ₯ Γ°Γ₯ßñÑæΓ₯ ðïôÝ ôï manual syncing óôï PS3. Ááôü ðïá Γ¬Γ₯ Γ°Γ₯ßñÑæΓ₯ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé üôé ÞôÑΓ* ðÜΓ*Ññãï, ÑëëÜ Ñáôü ôï âôéÜΓ�Γ‘Γ*Γ₯ óôï Vita ΓͺÑé ëïãéΓͺÜ ΓͺÑé óôï PS4.

Γ…Γ°ΓŸΓ³Γ§Γ², Γ₯ëðßæù Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* Ññ÷ßóïáìΓ₯ Γ*Γ‘ ÒëÝðïáìΓ₯ trophy spamming Γ³Γ₯ FB/Twitter... ãé' Ñáôü ðñïôéìþ ôï óáãΓͺΓ₯Γ*ôñùôéΓͺΓΌ çìΓ₯ñÞóéï syncing ôïá PS+, Γ‘Γ*ôß Γ*Γ‘ âÑßΓ*Γ―Γ*ôÑé ÝΓ*Γ‘-ÝΓ*Γ‘.

[Nerven]

Óôï 360 Γ¬Γ₯ ôï ðïá Γ°Γ₯Γ±Γ*Γ₯éò achievement Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ₯Γ© ìüΓ*Γ― ôïá sync, Γ¬Γ₯ ôï ðïá ôï Γ°Γ₯Γ±Γ*Γ₯éò ôï Γ�Γ‘Γ*ÑëÝù. Γ„Γ₯Γ* áðÜñ÷Γ₯Γ© ΓͺΓ‘Γ* Γ₯ðéëïãÞ Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯éò manual sync.

Ôï Üëëï ΓͺÑëü Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé Γ¬Γ₯ ôï ðïá ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯éò ôï achievement óôï Γ°Γ₯ôÜΓ₯Γ© Γ³Γ₯ millisecond, óôï ps3 ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯Γ© 3/4 Γ€Γ₯áôΓ₯Γ±ΓΌΓ«Γ₯ðôÑ Γ*Γ‘ ôï Γ€Γ₯ßΓ�Γ₯Γ©.


Γ…Γ«Γ°ΓŸΓ¦ΓΉ óôï ps4 Γ*Γ‘ ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé üðùò Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ*éÑ ôþñÑ óôï ôïýÒëï, ΓͺÑé Γ§ âÞìΓ₯Γ² Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ÑëçèéΓ*Ýò Þ ìÞðùò Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ΓͺΓ‘Γ* âÞìΓ₯Γ²?!...

[psx3]

ÈÑ ðñïôéìïýóÑ Γ*Γ‘ áðÜñ÷Γ₯Γ© Γ₯ðéëïãÞ Γ‘Γ*ÜìΓ₯Γ³Γ‘ Γ³Γ₯ auto ΓͺÑé manual sync, Ñëëéþò èÑ ãßΓ*Γ₯Γ© ÷Ñìüò Γ¬Γ₯ ôï spamming üðùò Γ₯ßðÑ, lol.

Ôï Üëëï ðïá Γ«Γ₯Γ² ΓΌΓ*ôùò Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé èÝìÑ, Γ₯éÀéΓͺÜ Γ³Γ₯ exclusives ðïá Γ�Γ₯æïáìßæïáΓ* ôï hardware... óßãïáñÑ èÑ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ðÑΓ*ãñÞãïñï óôï PS4, üðùò ΓͺÑé óôï Vita.

[Tilemaxx]

Γ„Γ₯Γ* ôï ÞΓ�Γ₯Γ±Γ‘ üôé ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ óôï XBOX360. ÁΓ* ΓͺÑé Γ*ïìßæù Γ―Γ© Γ°Γ₯ñéóóüôΓ₯Γ±Γ―Γ© èÑ Ý÷ïáìΓ₯ PS+ ΓͺÑé Ýôóé ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ ΓͺÜèΓ₯ ìÝñÑ.

ÌüΓ*Γ― Γ‘Γ* ôï Γ₯Γ*Γ₯ñãïðïéÞóΓ₯éò Γ*Γ‘ ãßΓ*Γ₯ôÑé ÑáôüìÑôÑ. ÊÑé Ñáôü ÑðÑéôΓ₯ß Γ*Γ‘ Γ‘Γ*ïßãΓ₯Γ© Γ₯ðé ôïýôïá Γ§ ΓͺΓ―Γ*óüëÑ ãé' Ñáôü (Γ‘Γ*ÜëïãÑ ôé èÑ Γ₯ðéëÝΓ�Γ₯éò Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯Γ© sync/upload). KΓ‘Γ*Γ―Γ*Γ©ΓͺÜ èÑ ÝðñΓ₯Γ°Γ₯ Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé üðùò ôï 360 üðïá üôÑΓ* ðÑßñΓ*Γ₯éò ÝΓ*Γ‘ trophy ÑáôüìÑôÑ ôï ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯Γ© sync.

[hakoo]

ÓáΓ*Γ₯Γ*Γ΄Γ₯Γ΅Γ�Γ§ ôïá Yoshida óôï IGN

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/11/12/...-your-psn-name

KÑé summary ìéÑò ΓͺÑé Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γ¬Γ₯ãÑëç Ñðï ôï neogaf

Some Takeaways:

• Shu happy being the face of playstation (@Yosp). Enjoys that everyday is a "catastrophe". " Yosp feels his twitter presence contributes which is why he likes it so much
• Shu's never gotten in trouble by Sony PR for what he tweets but his wife is another story
• PS4 has been a long project, almost 5 years. Considering original aims, "close to 80-90%" of functionality aimed for.
• PS4 Pre-orders obviously outstripping past PS launches. Sony feels good about future of PS4 against early quips by analysts that consoles had no place
• Part of the reason there is no mp3 at launch is because we were focusing on games. So when people found out they freaked out it was a little funny, because it was not a priority.
• If the lack of MP3 support is the worst part of the PS4 launch then PS4 is in a good spot
• Can't change PSN name still due to it being complicated. Engineers say that it is problematic. Original system does not work like an "excel spreadsheet". "Not designed that way". "Not impossible". Will keep looking into it.
• PS4 is a system that is flexible and future-proof. Part of this future-proofing is to reserve memory.
• Sony believed GDDR5 was needed for next-gen performance. Decision for 8GB was a big decision due to cost. Not only for great games but for system software guys. Leave some room in the CPU, GPU, memory for these guys to add future features
• Sub-accounts want to become Master accounts. Sony felt that the inability to do this was unfair. Looking into it.
• What changed at Playstation? [Greg's been pushing this question the whole interview ")] [Around the 12:20 mark, hard to understand] Part of that is that the business side always gets pressure from investors to go for better financial performance, so you should use that position to make your competitiveness even stronger. Shu seems to be alluding to a prior corporate culture at Sony leading to complacency during the PS3 era. But this [complacency] "comes in circles". "Because we went through the difficult time of launching PS3, we learned a lot, especially in the US. We are catching up to other companies in terms of other companies. Some network features." Sony now has a "Challenger" mentality "like when we first entered the industry". Back then Sony had a "big idea". VCRs had a 40% install base, video games consoles had a much smaller install base. "We can double that". During the PS1 time, Sony didn't really know much about the business and took cues from other companies at the time. Approaching the launch of PS4 was like how we approached the launch of PS1
• Shu has 2 Wii U's. Enjoys playing them with his daughters. "Nintendo make pretty fun family friendly games"
• "Success depends on how you set your goal. I don't know what Nintendo's goal with the WII U was. " Shu found it confusing that Nintendo seems to have not focused the Wii U to induct non-players [make players] like with a lot of their past consoles. Console is good but message of "for core gamers" was confusing. This year Nintendo have improved their messaging and gotten back on message.
• Do you [Shu] think ipads/tablets are hurting Nintendo? I think if you look at how Nintendo and Apple induct non-players into gaming, nintendo and apple are pretty much in the same group. Playstation doesn't necessarily fit into that group. We [Sony] need nintendo to be very successful in inducting new players who like to play games with controllers because we [sony] believe games with non-touch only controllers are great.

[Nerven]

[Leon_DiZ]

All the PS4 launch games and their install sizes
Plus, you can only use 408GB of the 500GB PS4 hard-drive.

The PlayStation 4 launches with a number of games available to download from the PlayStation Store. The US version is live now, and so we learn each title's install size and price in dollars.
Here's the list, in alphabetical order:

• Angry Birds Star Wars: 1.5Gb : $49.99
• AC4 Black Flag Gold Edition: 21.2GB : $79.99
• AC4 Black Flag: 21.2GB : $59.99
• Battlefield 4: 33.9GB : $59.99
• Black Light Retribution: 4.9GB : F2P
• Call of Duty: Ghosts: 31.1GB : $59.99
• Call of Duty: Ghosts Digital Hardened Edition: 31.3GB : $119.99 (season pack)
• Contrast: 2.3GB : $14.99
• DC Universe Online: 22.7GB : F2P
• DC Universe Online Ultimate Edition: 22.7GB : $29.99
• FIFA 14: 9GB : $59.99
• Flower: 1.8GB : $6.99
• Injustice: Gods Among Us: 22GB: $59.99
• Just Dance: 22GB : $49.99
• Killzone Shadow Fall: 38.5GB : $59.99
• Knack: 35.6GB : $59.99
• LEGO Marvel Super Heroes: 6.4GB : $59.99
• Madden NFL 25 : 13.1GB : $59.99
• NBA 2K14: 41.8GB : $59.99
• NFS Rivals (TBA)
• Resogun: 460.8MB : $14.99
• Sound Shapes: 3.4GB : $14.99
• Super Motherlode: 393.6MB : $13.99
• Trine 2: Complete Story: 2.6GB : $19.99
• Warframe: 4.2GB : F2P

The largest install on this list is for NBA 2K14, which weighs in at a whopping 41.8GB. On Xbox One this game is 43GB. Check out how Xbox One game sizes compare.

The PS4 system storage management screen.

Meanwhile, Eurogamer has verified reports that indicated you have access to just 408GB of the 500GB PS4 hard-drive.

As the image, right, shows, 408GB is available to users, although the PS4 fails to reveal what the inaccessible 92GB is reserved for. No doubt some of it is reserved for pre-installed software, such as The Playroom.

[Leon_DiZ]

Sony's Mark Cerny: Game developers have been calling for the PS4 since 2008 (video)

[alan sirer]

live stream

nba 2k14 http://www.gamespot.com/videos/plays.../2300-6416086/ ôùñÑ menu ΓͺÑé ΓΆΓΉΓ*çôéΓͺΓ₯Γ² Γ₯Γ*ôïëΓ₯Γ²
ΓͺÑé Γ₯Àù ôï gamespot http://el.twitch.tv/gamespot
ÀéÑâïñÑ http://el.twitch.tv/primagames
playroom http://el.twitch.tv/jed05
Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ₯éìÑé óéãïáñïò Γ‘Γ* Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ps4 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ps4-ustream-gameplay

[psx3]

Naughty Dog Co-Founder: “Two Years Ago Microsoft Was Going to Win this Generation. ThatΒ’s Not The Case Now”

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/10/naughty-dog-co-founder-two-years-ago-microsoft-was-going-to-win-this-gen-thats-not-the-case-now/

"Naughty Dog Co-Founder and former Studio President Jason Rubin (he left the company in 2004) is quite confident in SonyΒ’s possibilities to do well this generation, especially due to the internal change brought to the company by people like Mark Cerny, as he told while interviewed by Geoff Keighley on GameTrailers.

Having worked at Sony and having seen how Sony is, [...] we have to give them an incredible amount of credit for this launch. Inside the industry, quietly, hush-hush, two years ago Microsoft was going to win this generation. And thatΒ’s not the case now.

They have been very very smart, very very adept at changing their policies to fit what gamers wanted, and theyΒ’ve created an incredible hardware.

The creator of that hardware, Mark Cerny, who I know extremely well, could have not done this in the PS3 era, because Ken Kutaragi was there and the entire company had a very different way of looking at things.

I actually know better than most people the history of internal hardware production at Sony, because I went through this with Mark from Crash watching how hardware has gone.

The change from the Kutaragi model to, i will call it, the Cerny model is far larger than anyone realizes. It is looking at the market and adapting to the market, rather than creating the ultimate graphics hardware from a technical standpoint and assuming the market will come."

[Deathtrick]

[Nerven]

[stavros88]

ÊÑìéÑ ÒëÑΓͺΓ₯éïáëÑ ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ðÑëé ÑëëÑ ðïôΓ₯ Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ�Γ₯Γ±Γ₯éò

[Nerven]

ÍÑ ÀÑΓ*Γ₯éóôþ ôï video ðïá Γ‘Γ*ÝÒÑóΓ₯ Γ― âßëïò nikon, Γ*Γ‘ ôï Γ‘Γ*Γ₯ÒÜóù ΓͺÑé óôï ðÑñþΓ* Γ*ÞìÑ.

PS4 HDD VS SSD

[djpar]

"playstation start call of duty ghost" ΓͺÑé Γ³ΓͺΓ‘Γ₯Γ© ÑðÑΓ*ôçóç ïôé Γ§ Γ₯âÑñìïãç âéâÑ èÑ ΓͺΓ«Γ₯éóΓ₯Γ©,ÑñÑ Γ₯ðÑéæΓ₯ Ñðï ðéóù ëïãéΓͺΓ‘ ΓͺÑé Γ₯é÷Γ₯ Γ’Γ£Γ₯Γ© óôï Γ¬Γ₯Γ*Γ―Γ΅ ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ Γ€Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑôé. Γ…Γ·Γ₯Γ© ôñΓ₯ëÑ ãñçãïñï xmb Γ§ ïðùò Ñëëéùò Γ«Γ₯Γ£Γ₯ôÑé

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