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  1. 16-12-2011, 15:22 #181
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    ÊáëÞ ç êëÞñùóç ìå ôçí Ýííïéá üôé äåí ìðïñåßò íá õðïôéìÞóåéò ôçí Ñïõìðßí ÊáæÜí. Ïýôå êáíÝíá ìåãáèÞñéï åßíáé, ïýôå êáíÝíá êáöåíåßï. Áí ðåñÜóïõìå ëïãéêÜ ìåôÜ èá ìáò ðåñéìÝíåé ç ÌÝôáëéóô, ç ïðïßá äåí Ý÷åé êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçí ïìÜäá ðïõ áíôéìåôùðßóáìå ôï 2008. Åßíáé ç 3ç äýíáìç óôçí Ïõêñáíßá (ðßóù áðü Íôéíáìü ÊéÝâïõ êáé Óá÷ôáñ), áëëÜ äåí åßíáé êáèüëïõ êáêÞ ïìÜäá.

    ÐÜíôùò ï äñüìïò ãéá ôïõò 8 åßíáé áíïé÷ôüò êáé ìå åìöáíßóåéò óáí ôïõ Champion's League ìðïñïýìå íá åëðßæïõìå óå êÜôé êáëü.

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    Ï Ïëõìðéáêüò öÝôïò Ý÷åé äéáöïñåôéêÞ ðñïóÝããéóç óôá åõñùðáéêÜ ðáé÷íßäéá, ãé' áõôü äçìéïõñãïýíôáé êáé ìåãÜëåò ðñïóäïêßåò. Êáôáëáâáßíù âÝâáéá üôé åóý ùò Ðáíáèçíáéêüò èÝëåéò íá ìáò ðñïóãåéþóåéò.
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    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

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  2. 16-12-2011, 15:28 #182
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    ÁðëÜ õðÜñ÷åé ðåñéóóüôåñç áéóéïäïîßá áð' üôé èá õðÞñ÷å ð÷ ìå ôçí Ðüñôï (êáé áò ìçí "ðåôÜåé").

    Èåùñþ üôé ç êëÞñùóç åßíáé êáëÞ áðü ôçí óêïðéÜ üôé äåí èá ôçí õðïôéìÞóïõìå óå êáìßá ðåñßðôùóç, åíþ ôáõôü÷ñïíá äåí åßíáé êáé áíßêçôç.

    Ðéóôåýù ìÜëéóôá, üôé ïé áíôßðáëïé ðïõ Ý÷ïõìå óôïõò 16 ßóùò äþóïõí Ýíá ðáñáðÜíù êßíçôñï óôïõò ðáßêôåò íá äþóïõí ôçí ßäéá óçìáóßá êáé óôï Europa üðùò êáé óôï CL ìéáò êáé õðÜñ÷åé ðñïïðôéêÞ.

    ÂÝâáéá ï Ïëõìðéáêüò (ôïõ ÂáëâÝñäå) áðü ôçí ÌÝôáëéóô Ý÷åé ÷Üóåé ôçí ðñïçãïýìåíç öïñÜ óôï Europa (ìå ôçí ðáëéÜ ìïñöÞ ôïõ, 1-0 åêôüò áí èõìÜìáé êáëÜ), ôçí Ñïýìðéí äåí ôçí Ý÷åé íéêÞóåé åëëçíéêÞ ïìÜäá (ï ÐÜíôåëéôò åßðå "á, ùñáßá, ôþñá èá ÷Üóåé" ÷á÷á÷á) åíþ êáé ï Ðáíáèçíáúêüò ãéá ðáñÜäåéãìá áðÝêëåéóå ôçí Ñüìá ðñüðåñóõ ãéá íá áðïêëåéóôåß áðü ôçí ÓôáíôÜñ.

    Ïðüôå ôá ìåãÜëá ëüãéá äåí Ý÷ïõí íüçìá, óßãïõñá èá ìðïñïýóå íá åßíáé êáé ÷åéñïôåñç ç êëÞñùóç áëëÜ êáé êáëýôåñç, ãéá ìÝíá, áí åìöáíéóôåß üðùò óôï CL Ý÷åé ðïëëÝò ðéèáíüôçôåò.

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  3. 16-12-2011, 15:47 #183
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    ^H Ñïõìðéí äåí èá å÷åé îåêéíçóåé ôï ðñùôáèëçìá åêåéíç ôçí åðï÷ç,åðéóçò äåí åéäá êáíá ìåãáèçñéï ìå ôïí ÐÁÏÊ.Äåí åéíáé åõêïëç,áëëá ìðïñåé íá ôçí ÷ôõðçóåé ï Ïëõìðéáêïò.Ïê ìðïñåé íá ìçí åéíáé ç ìåãéóôç áðïôõ÷éá áí áðïêëåéóôåé áðï ìéá ïìáäá ìå ìåãáëõôåñï ìðáôæåô,áëëá ïõôå êáé ç ôåñáóôéá åðéôõ÷éá áí ðñïêñéèåé ìå áíôéðáëï áõôç ôçí ïìáäá,ç ïðïéá åäåéîå ïôé åéíáé óôá ìåôñá ôùí ìåãáëõôåñùí Åëëçíéêùí ïìáäùí.
    Ëïãéêï åéíáé íá õðáñ÷åé áéóéïäïîéá.
    Aëëï ç áéóéïäïîéá ðïõ åéíáé ëïãéêï íá õðáñ÷åé êáé áëëï ç áíôéëçøç ðïõ âëåðù ìåôá ôçí êëçñùóç áðï êáðïéïõò ôïõ ôõðïõ ''Åëá ìùñå, ðïéá Ñïõìðéí ôùñá''...
    Êáëç ïìáäá åéíáé, êáëïõò ðáéêôåò å÷åé êáé ãéá ìåíá ç êëçñùóç åéíáé æïñéêç ãéá ôï ãáõñï

    p.s Ìåôåöåñá ôï ðïóô óôï êáöåíåéï. Ãéá íá ìçí ðáñáðïíéåôáé êáé ï nikon...
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  4. 16-12-2011, 15:50 #184
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    Åðåéäç ðñïëáâá ôï ðïóô óïõ Íéêï.
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    Áðï êåé êáé ðåñá åðéìåíù ïôé ãéá ìåíá,äåí åéíáé ïõôå åõêïëç ïõôå äõóêïëç êëçñùóç.Ôï êáëï ãéá ôïí ÏÓÖÐ åéíáé ïôé áí ðåñáóåé óôïõò 16 å÷åé ìåãáëõôåñåò ðéèáíïôçôåò íá ðáåé óôïõò 8.

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    Aëëï ç áéóéïäïîéá ðïõ åéíáé ëïãéêï íá õðáñ÷åé êáé áëëï ç áíôéëçøç ðïõ âëåðù ìåôá ôçí êëçñùóç áðï êáðïéïõò ôïõ ôõðïõ ''Åëá ìùñå, ðïéá Ñïõìðéí ôùñá''...
    Êáëç ïìáäá åéíáé, êáëïõò ðáéêôåò å÷åé êáé ãéá ìåíá ç êëçñùóç åéíáé æïñéêç ãéá ôï ãáõñï
    Êáëá áí ðáåé ìå áõôç ôç ëïãéêç å÷åé áðïêëåéóôåé.Áëëá åéäéêá ôçí åðï÷ç ðïõ èá ðáéîïõí äåí îåñù ãéáôé èá ðñåðåé íá ìçí åéíáé áéóéïäïîïé.Ïé áëëïé äåí èá å÷ïõí ðáé÷íéäéá óôá ðïäéá ôïõò.
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  5. 16-12-2011, 15:55 #185
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    p.s Ìåôåöåñá ôï ðïóô óôï êáöåíåéï. Ãéá íá ìçí ðáñáðïíéåôáé êáé ï nikon...
    Åãþ Þìïõí Ýôïéìïò íá óïõ áðáíôÞóù áëëÜ áõôÞ ôç ìåôáöïñÜ áðü åäþ êáé áðü åêåß äåí ôçí ãïõóôÜñù ïðüôå ïýôå ðáñáðïíéÝìáé áëëÜ ïýôå êáé áó÷ïëïýìáé.

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    Åðåéäç ðñïëáâá ôï ðïóô óïõ Íéêï.
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    Ôï Ýóâçóá üôáí Ýêáíåò áõôü ðïõ Ýðñåðå üôáí äçëáäÞ Þîåñá üôé ôï "ðñüëáâåò".

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  6. 16-12-2011, 19:20 #186
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    Áí ç ïìÜäá èÝëåé íá ëÝåé üôé Ý÷åé óôü÷ïõò óôçí åõñþðç ÐÑÅÐÅÉ íá ðÜåé óôïõò 8.×ñõóÝò åõêáéñßåò äåí óïõ äßíïíôáé óõ÷íÜ(üðùò ìå ôçí ìðïñíôü ðñéí 2 ÷ñüíéá).
    Äåí îÝñù ðùò êáé ôé íá ôá äþóïõí üëá íá ðåñÜóïõí 2 ãýñïõò.ÌåôÜ èá åßíáé õðÝñâáóç ïôéäÞðïôå Üëëï.
    ÂÝâáéá îå÷íÜìå êÜôé óçìáíôéêü.¼ëåò ïé ïìÜäåò äåí èá åßíáé óôçí ßäéá êáôÜóôáóç ôüôå.ÐÜíôùò ç ñïýìðéí ìåôÜ ôïí ÷åéìþíá èá åßíáé ÷åéñüôåñç
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  7. 16-12-2011, 19:37 #187
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    ^^Óõìöùíþ ÌÝíéï. Áñêåß íá äþóïõí ôçí äÝïõóá óçìáóßá êáé ü÷é íá ôï êÜíïõí áããáñåßá (ëåò êáé êÜèå ÷ñüíï ðáßñíïõìå ôï CL îÝñù ãù). Äåí ëÝù öõóéêÜ íá ðáñáôÞóïõí ôï ðñùôÜèëçìá, óùóôÜ åßíáé áõôüò ï ðñþôïò óôü÷ïò, áò äþóïõí üìùò ôï êÜôé ðáñáðÜíù ìéáò êáé õðÜñ÷ïõí êáé ðñïïðôéêÝò.

    Äýï ðáñáôçñÞóåéò åðéðëÝïí ìüíï ãéá ôçí êáôÜóôáóç ôçò Ñïýìðéí.

    1. ÑùóéêÝò ïìÜäåò ôï Ý÷ïõí óçêþóåé óôï ðñüóöáôï ðáñåëèüí, åðïìÝíùò ðÝñáóáí åðéôõ÷þò áðü áõôÝò ôéò öÜóåéò.
    2. Ðáßæåé íá åßíáé êáé äéáöïñåôéêÞ ïìÜäá, ìéáò êáé ðïëý ðéèáíüí èá Ý÷åé êÜíåé ìåôáãñáöÝò.
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  8. 16-12-2011, 20:05 #188
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    ÐÜíôùò ðÝñõóé áí èõìÜìáé êáëÜ üëåò ïé ñþóéêåò êáé ïõêñáíéêÝò ïìÜäåò ìåôÜ ôïí ÷åéìþíá áðïêëåßóôçêáí.
    Ìðïñåß íá êÜíåé ìåôáãñáöÝò áëëÜ ìðïñåß êáé íá ôçò öýãïõí ðáß÷ôåò.ÅìÝíá ìå áíçóõ÷åß ðåñéóóüôåñï ç êáôÜóôáóç ôïõ ïëõìðéáêïý ôüôå êáé áõôü ðïõ åßðåò áí èá äþóïõí ôçí ðñÝðïõóá óçìáóéÜ óôá 2 ìáôò
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  9. 16-12-2011, 21:42 #189
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    ¸óôù üôé ï Ïëõìðéáêüò ðåñíÜåé ôçí Ñïõìðßí, áëëÜ êÜíåé óôï ðñùôÜèëçìá 2/4 ãêÝëåò. ÐñïóùðéêÜ äåí ìå íïéÜæåé êáèüëïõ. Èá èõìÜôáé êáíåßò ôïõ ÷ñüíïõ üôé ï Ïëõìðéáêüò ìåôÜ ôï äéðëü óôï Âåëïíôñüì Ý÷áóå 2-0 óôçí Ôñßðïëç ? Èá èõìÜôáé êáíåßò ôéò ãêÝëåò ôïõ ÐÁÏÊ ? ÁõôÜ ðïõ ìÝíïõí åßíáé, ôï äéðëü óôç Ãáëëßá ãéá ôïí Ïëõìðéáêü êáé ôï äéðëü óôçí Áããëßá ãéá ôïí ÐÁÏÊ. Ï ¶ñçò ðÞãå óôïõò 32 ôïõ Ãéïõñüðá, íéêþíôáò 2 öïñÝò ìÜëéóôá ôçí ÁôëÝôéêï, êáé áðïëýèçêå ï Êïýðåñ ãéáôß äåí ðÞãáéíå êáëÜ óôçí ÅëëÜäá. ÁõôÜ Ý÷ïõìå åäþ äõóôõ÷þò.
    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

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  10. 17-12-2011, 02:35 #190
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    "Áðï ðïôå å÷åé ãéíåé ''åõêïëï'' ãéá ôï ãáõñï ôï íá ðåñáóåé ïìáäá óáí ôçí Ñïõìðéí?...êáé ìåãáëç áðïôõ÷éá áí äåí ðñïêñéèåé?...÷áëáñùóôå ëéãï...êáôáêôçôåò ôçò Åõñùðçò...êáé ðñïóåîôå ìç óáò ðåóåé âáñõò ï Ñùóéêïò ÷åéìùíáò...."
    ÄéÜâáóá ôï áêüëïõèï post áðü ôïí kostasb13 êáé åðåéäÞ (åí ìÝñç) áíáöÝñåôáé óå äéêü ìïõ post èÝëù íá îåêáèáñßóù üôé ìßëçóá (üðùò ðÜíôá åîÜëëïõ) êáèáñÜ âáóéæüìåíïò óôï áãùíéóôéêü ðñüóùðï ðïõ Ý÷ïõí äåßîåé üëåò ïé ïìÜäåò ðïõ âñßóêïíôáé óôïí äñüìï ôïõ Ïëõìðéáêïý ãéá ôïõò 8 ôïõ Europa League.
    Ôá õðåñðïëëáðëÜóéá budgets äåí Ý÷ñéóáí ðïôÝ ìéá ïìÜäá öáâïñß.Ôá áãùíéóôéêÜ äåßãìáôá ãñáöÞò ôçò ôï Ýêáíáí..
    Ïðüôå ëÝãïíôáò üôé èá Þôáí áðïôõ÷ßá íá ìçí ðñïêñéèïýìå ðåñéóóüôåñï "ôá øÜëëù" óôçí äéêÞ ìïõ ïìÜäá ãéá åíäå÷üìåíåò êáêïôïðéÝò ðáñÜ óôçí Rubin Kazan.
    Áðü êáé ðÝñá åðéìÝíù üôé èá åßíáé ìåãÜëç áðïôõ÷ßá åÜí äåí ðåñÜóïõìå óôïõò 8.
    Ï Valverde äåß÷íåé íá êáôáëáâáßíåé üôé ðñÝðåé íá äþóåé áíÜóåò óå âáóéêïýò êáé íá ðáßîåé åðéôÝëïõò êáé ï Öåôöáôæßäçò óå êñßóéìïõò áãþíåò ðïõ äåí êåñäßæïíôáé ìüíï ìå ôñÝîéìï êáé óõíå÷Ýò pressing!
    ÁõôÜ ôá ïëßãá êáé åëðßæù íá åðéóôñÝøåé õãéÞò ï Makoun ãéá íá áñ÷ßóåé íá äÝíåé êáëýôåñá ôï êÝíôñï.
    Åêåß åßíáé ç äýíáìç ôçò ïìÜäáò ôïõ 4-2-3-1, óôá ÷áö ôçò.
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  11. 17-12-2011, 09:48 #191
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    ^ äåí èá ìðïñïõóá íá óõìöùíçóù ðåñéóóïôåñï...

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  12. 18-12-2011, 15:34 #192
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    Ç êëÞñùóç åßíáé ðéóôåýù ðéï äýóêïëç áðü üôé ßóùò öáßíåôáé áñ÷éêÜ. ¸ñéîá êáé ìßá ìáôéÜ óôï site ôçò Ñïýìðéí êáé åßäá ôï ñüóôåñ ôïõò. ¸÷ïõí áñêåôïýò êáëïýò ðáßêôåò, Ñþóïõò êáé îÝíïõò, ð÷ ÁíóÜëíôé, ÊÜñëïò ÅäïõÜñäï, ÌÜñôéíò êáé ÍÝëóïí ÂáëíôÝæ.
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    ÅîÜëëïõ ôï üôé ï Öåôöáôæßäçò Þäç Ý÷åé ìðåé óå Ýíá êñßóéìï ðáé÷íßäé êáé Ý÷åé âÜëåé ôï ãêïë ôçò íßêçò (óõí êáëÞ áðüäïóç) èá åßíáé óáí íá ìçí Ýãéíå ðïôÝ ãéá ôï ÂáëâÝñäå, ï ïðïßïò ôþñá ôïí âÜæåé ëüãù ôùí áðïõóéþí êáé ãéá êáíÝíá Üëëï ëüãï...(üðùò êáé ôïõò Üëëïõò, ð÷ ×áâßôï, ÌáíéÜôç êëð)....
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    ÕÃ: Ðñïöáíþò áðü êÜðïéï error, Ýãéíå äéðëïðïóôÜñéóìá, äåí îÝñù ãéáôß. Æçôþ óõããíþìç, áí êáé äåí åßíáé äéêü ìïõ ëÜèïò....(åðßóçò, äåí îÝñù áí õðÜñ÷åé ôñüðïò íá êÜíïõìå delete Ýíá ðïóô, äåí åßäá êÜôé. Áí ãßíåôáé, áò ìïõ ðåé êÜðïéïò..)
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    ^ÌÞðùò óå ëÝíå Ãñçãüñç êáé åßóáé êáñáöëüò ?

    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by toninio View Post
    ÅîÜëëïõ ôï üôé ï Öåôöáôæßäçò Þäç Ý÷åé ìðåé óå Ýíá êñßóéìï ðáé÷íßäé êáé Ý÷åé âÜëåé ôï ãêïë ôçò íßêçò (óõí êáëÞ áðüäïóç) èá åßíáé óáí íá ìçí Ýãéíå ðïôÝ ãéá ôï ÂáëâÝñäå, ï ïðïßïò ôþñá ôïí âÜæåé ëüãù ôùí áðïõóéþí êáé ãéá êáíÝíá Üëëï ëüãï...(üðùò êáé ôïõò Üëëïõò, ð÷ ×áâßôï, ÌáíéÜôç êëð)....
    ¶ëëï âÝâáéá ðïõ êáé óÞìåñá ðáßæåé êáé ï ÖÝôöá êáé ï ÌáíéÜôçò, ðáñ' üëï ðïõ åßíáé äéáèÝóéìïò êáé ï ÏñìðÜéè, ðÝñá áðü ôïõò Áìðôïýí, Ìüí÷å, ÃéÝóôå, ëåðôïìÝñåéåò üìùò, äåí âáñéÝóáé...
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    Áããáñåßá ôï äåýôåñï çìß÷ñïíï, êñßìá ãéá ôïí êüóìï!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis7 View Post
    ^ÌÞðùò óå ëÝíå Ãñçãüñç êáé åßóáé êáñáöëüò ?
    Åõôõ÷þò ðïõ õðÜñ÷ïõí êáé êÜðïéïé óáí ôï ÃåùñãÜôï, ößëå, ìðáò êáé áêïõóôåß êáé êáìßá Üëëç Üðïøç......

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    ¶ëëï âÝâáéá ðïõ êáé óÞìåñá ðáßæåé êáé ï ÖÝôöá êáé ï ÌáíéÜôçò, ðáñ' üëï ðïõ åßíáé äéáèÝóéìïò êáé ï ÏñìðÜéè, ðÝñá áðü ôïõò Áìðôïýí, Ìüí÷å, ÃéÝóôå, ëåðôïìÝñåéåò üìùò, äåí âáñéÝóáé...
    ¼ôáí ößëå ìïõ Ý÷åéò Ýíáí ôáëáíôïý÷ï ðáßêôç ðïõ èÝò íá ôïí áíáðôýîåéò êáé íá ôïí áíáäåßîåéò (åðåéäÞ åßíáé êáëüò ðáßêôçò êáé èá óå âïçèÞóåé, ü÷é ãéá íá êÜíåéò....êáìßá ÷Üñç) êáé ôïí Ý÷åéò åîáöáíßóåé ìßá ÷ñïíéÜ, ôç äåýôåñç ôïí âÜæåéò ìüíï üôáí ç ïìÜäá Ý÷åé ãßíåé íïóïêïìåßï, ðïôÝ äåí ôïí áöÞíåéò ìÝóá Ýíá ïëüêëçñï åíåíçíôÜëåðôï, åíþ åßíáé êáëüò êáé ðñïóðáèåß, ôüôå äåí îÝñù ðïéüò ðñÝðåé íá ðåé ôï äåí âáñéÝóáé. ÁíáöÝñåéò êÜðïéïõò ðáßêôåò ðïõ åßíáé äéáèÝóéìïé êáé äåí îåêßíçóáí. Ï ÏñìðÜéè äåí îÝñù áí åßíáé 100% Ýôïéìïò áêüìá, áëëÜ áí åßíáé, êÜíåé ëÜèïò êáé äåí ôïí îåêéíÜåé, äéüôé óôï êÜôù êÜôù åßíáé ãíÞóéï áì. ÷áö, åíþ ïé ÌáíéÜôçò êáé ÌïäÝóôï äåí åßíáé. Êáé áðü áõôüí ôïí Ôïñïóßäç, ðïõ ìáò Ý÷åé ðñÞîåé óôéò áíüçôåò óÝíôñåò, êáëýôåñá íá ðáßîåé ëßãï óôá äåîéÜ êáé ï ÌáíéÜôçò, ðïõ åßíáé ç èÝóç ôïõ êáé åßíáé ðïëý êáëüò ôå÷íéêÜ. Ôþñá ãéá ôïí Áìðíôïýí êáé ôïí Ìüí÷å, ïê, áí åßíáé íá ðáßæïõí áõôïß áíôß ôïõ Öåôöáôæßäç, êáé íá èåùñåßôáé üôé ï ÂáëâÝñäå óôçñßæåé ôï ìéêñü, âÜæïíôÜò ôïí ðïõ êáé ðïõ óôç èÝóç ôïõò, ôüôå, ïê, ðÜù ðÜóï. ¼óï ãéá ôï ÃÝóôå, öõóéêÜ êáé ðñÝðåé íá ðáßæåé, üóï áíôÝ÷åé, óôç èÝóç ôïõ äåêáñéïý, áíôß ãéá ôï ÖïõóôÝñ, ü÷é áíôß ôïõ Öåôöáôæßäç, ðïõ êÜíåé Üëëç äïõëåéÜ óôï ãÞðåäï.
    Ãéá ìÝíá, ï ÂáëâÝñäå Ýäåéîå êáé óÞìåñá ðüóï êïëëçìÝíïò åßíáé, äåí ðåñéìÝíù êÜôé äéáöïñåôéêü. ÁëëÜ ïê, áõôÜ åßíáé øéëÜ ãñÜììáôá....
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    A, êáôÜëáâá, üôáí äåí âÜæåé ôïí ÖÝôöá êáé âÜæåé Áìðôïýí, ëÝìå ãéáôß äåí ôïí âÜæåé, êáé üôáí ôïí âÜæåé áíôß ð÷ ãéá ôïí Áìðôïýí, ëÝìå üôé äåí ôïí óôçñßæåé. Ðïëý ùñáßá. ÂãÜëå íüçìá...

    ÁëëÜ íáé, êáôÜ ôçí ãíþìç óïõ ï ÂáëâÝñäå åßíáé êïëëçìÝíïò, ïðüôå äåí Ý÷åé óçìáóßá, êáé áò êÜíåé áõôÜ ðïõ öþíáæåò ãéá ôïí ÖÝôöá, ôþñá ãéá íá õðïóôçñßîåéò ôçí ãíþìç óïõ ðñÝðåé íá âñåéò Üëëá. Ïê, óõíå÷ßæïõìå, êáêþò áíïßãù êïõâÝíôåò.

    ÁðëÜ íá îåêáèáñßóù ãéá ôçí éóôïñßá üôé åãþ äåí áíÝöåñá áõôÜ ôá ïíüìáôá ãéáôß ôá ðñïôéìþ (ðñïöáíþò êáé ðñïôéìþ ôïí ÖÝôöá), áëëÜ ãéá íá ôïíßóù ôçí áóôï÷ßá áõôïý ðïõ åßðåò ìå âÜóç ôçí óçìåñéíÞ åíäåêÜäá (êáé ãéá ôïí ÖÝôöá êáé ôïí ÌáíéÜôç, üðïõ êáé áõôüí èá ìðïñïýóå äýï ìáôò ôþñá íá ìçí ôïí âÜëåé ëüãù ÏñìðÜéè).

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    Ç ìüíç Ýíóôáóç óÞìåñá ãéá ôïí âáëâÝñäå åßíáé ðïõ âÜæåé ôïí ðÜíôåëéôò óôï 89.Åßíáé êïñïéäßá,åãþ Ýôóé ôï âëÝðù.
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    Óõìöùíþ, áõôü ìÜëéóôá, áôõ÷Ýóôáôç áðüöáóç.

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