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  1. 20-12-2010, 14:32 #3761
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    Ìå ôá áí ößëå ðÜíôá èá âëÝðáìå äéáöïñåôéêÜ ìáôò áðü áõôÜ ðïõ åßäáìå.Ìðïñåß íá êÝñäéæå ç ëÜñéóá ìðïñåß íá åñ÷üôáí ÷ ìðïñåß êáé íá Ý÷áíå.Åãþ óïõ ìéëÜù ìå âÜóç ôéò åéêüíåò ôùí ïìÜäùí ìÝ÷ñé íá ãßíåé ôï 0-1.ÌåôÜ äéáìïñöþíïíôáé íÝåò ôáêôéêÝò.
    Ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôï ãÞðåäï öõóéêÜ åííïþ üôé äåí áîßæåé óôïõò ðáß÷ôåò ðïõ öïñÜíå ôþñá ôçí öáíÝëá ôçò ëÜñéóáò.Áõôïß åßíáé ãéá ïìáäéêü óïõôÜñéóìá.Ç ëÜñéóá óáí ïìÜäá áîßæåé êáé áêüìá êáëýôåñï ãÞðåäï áðü áõôü.ÁëëÜ åßíáé ãéá ëýðçóç íá âëÝðåéò ôÝôïéïõò ðáß÷ôåò óáí ëáñéóáßïò üôáí Ý÷åéò äåé óôï ðáñåëèüí ðáé÷ôáñÜäåò.¼ðùò êáé ãéá ëýðçóç åßíáé êÜèå ÷ñïíéÜ íá âÜæåéò øçëÜ ôïí ðÞ÷ç ìçí îÝñïíôáò ôéò éêáíüôçôåò ôùí ðáé÷ôþí óïõ.¶óå ðïõ åßíáé ç ìïíáäéêÞ ïìÜäá ðïõ äåí Ý÷åé óÝíôåñ öïñ.......(åêôüò áí èåùñåßò óÝíôåñ öïñ êïõæÝí êáé ôá õðüëïéðá)
    Åßìáé áðü èåóóáëßá êáé Üêïõãá óôéò áñ÷Ýò ôçò ÷ñïíéáò ôïõò ãíùóôïýò êáöñïäçìïóéïãñÜöïõò (astra tv ê.ë.ð) íá ìéëÜíå ãéá 3ç èÝóç êáé ðÜíù.Ìüëéò ôïõò Ýëåãå êÜðïéïò ãéá ôçí ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá ôïí Ýêëåéíáí.Ôþñá ðïõ âëÝðïõí ôçí óêëçñÞ ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá øÜ÷íïõí íá âñïõí äéêáéïëïãßåò ðáíôïý.Äåí âëÝðïõí ôçí áãùíéóôéêÞ ãýìíéá ðáñÜ ìüíï ôçí äéáéôçóßá.Êáé åãþ óïõ ëÝù ôçí Ý÷ïõí áäéêÞóåé óôá 10 áðü ôá 15.ÂëÝðåéò éêáíÞ áõôÞ ôçí ïìÜäá áêüìá êáé íá ìçí ôçí áäéêÞóïõí íá êñáôÞóåé ôï óêïñ?
    Ïëç ç äïõëåéá îåêéíáåé áðï ôïí ðñïåäñï ðñïóðáèåé ìå ðïñäåò íá âáøåé áâãá ç áõãá äåí ëåù åêáíå õðåñðñïóðáèåéá ãéá ôï ãçðåäï áëëá ùò åêåé,óôá õðïëïéðá ìåíåé ìåôáîåôáóôåùò,íïìéæåé ïôé ìðïñåé íá êáíåé ïëåò ôéò äïõëåéåò ìïíïò ôïõ ìåôáãñáöåò,÷ïñçãéåò,äçì.ó÷åóåéò êôë äåí ãéíåôå åôóé ðñåðåé íá ðñïóëáâåéò êïóìï ïðïôå ìåãáëï ìåñéäéï åõèçíçò å÷åé áõôïò êáé ìïíï áõôïò...
    Ôùñá ãéá ôï áí å÷ïõìå ç äåí å÷ïõìå óõíïëï èåùñù ïôé å÷ïõìå áñêåôåò âåíôåôåò ìåóá óôçí ïìáäá ðïõ èåëåé ï êáèåíáò áðï ìéá ìðáëá,å÷ïõíå ðáéîåé óå ìåãáëá ðñùôáèëçìáôá êáé åðåéäç èåùñïõíå ôï äéêï ìáò õðïäååóôåñï íïìéæïõí ïôé åäù ìáìáíå êáé äåñíïõí áëëá ðáëé äåí óçìáéíåé ïôé áîéæåé íá åéìáóôå åêåé ðïõ åéìáóôå,íáé èåùñù ïôé ìåãáëç åõèçíç å÷åé ç äéáéôçóéá óôçí öåôéíç ìáò ðïñåéá ùò ôùñá....
  2. 20-12-2010, 14:42 #3762
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    Äåí Ý÷åé ç áåë ÷åéñüôåñï óýíïëï áðü ôéò Üëëåò ïìÜäåò.ÁðëÜ äåí Ý÷åé óÝíôåñ öïñ.Ïýôå ðÝñõóé åß÷å êáé ãåíéêÜ ôá ôåëåõôáßá ÷ñüíéá.Ìå Þ ÷ùñßò äéáéôçóßá áõôü ôï õëéêü äåí åßíáé ãéá ìåãÜëåò ðñïóäïêßåò.Êáé ôá ïíüìáôá äåí êÜíïõí ôçí ïìÜäá.Ç áÝë èÝëåé ðáß÷ôåò íá ðáßæïõí êáé ü÷é íá åß÷áí ðáßîåé êÜðïôå óôç æùÞ ôïõò
  3. 20-12-2010, 14:47 #3763
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    ôï óôáìáôáù åäù ãéáôé ðáíù êáôù ôá éäéá ëåìå êáé äåí å÷åé íïçìá íá ôï îå÷åéëùóïõìå!!!
  4. 20-12-2010, 20:03 #3764
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    Ðñþôç öïñÜ âëÝðù ðÝíáëíôé üôáí ï áìõíüìåíïò Ý÷åé âñåß ðñþôá ìðÜëá: Ýôóé ãéá íá ìçí âëÝðïõìå öáíôÜóìáôá åêåß ðïõ äåí õðÜñ÷ïõí....Ãéá ôçí äåýôåñç êßôñéíç-êüêêéíç óôïí ÉãêëÝóéáò ðïõ äåí äüèçêå ðïôÝ óôï 75' åßðå êáíåßò ôßðïôá áëÞèåéá????
    Ôçí ÊáëçóðÝñá ìïõ!!!êáé íôõèåßôå êáëÜ Ý?¸÷åé ðåß áðü -5 ìÝ÷ñé -13.............
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  5. 20-12-2010, 20:13 #3765
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    Ðñåðåé íá åéóáé ï ìïíáäéêïò óôçí Åëëáäá ðïõ èåùñåé ïôé áõôï äåí çôáí ðåíáëôé(á êáé ï Íéêïëáêïðïõëïò óïñõ).Ôï íá âáæåéò åéêïíåò ðïõ äåí äåé÷íïõí áðïëõôïò ôðô äåí ìïõ ëååé êáôé.
    Ç öáóç çôáí ïñéóìïò êáé äåí íïìéæù ïôé äéáöùíåé êáíåéò ðïõ íá îåñåé ôá óôïé÷åéùäç áðï ìðáëá.
    Ôï áó÷çìï åéíáé ïôé ï äéáéôçôçò ôï åéäå êáé äåí ôï åäùóå...
    Ðïõ óçìáéíåé ïôé õðçñ÷å äïëïò.
    Ç ðéï îåêáèáñç öåôéíç öáóç ãéá íá êáôçãïñçóåéò êáðïéïí ãéá äïëï åéíáé ç óõãêåêñéìåíç.
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  6. 20-12-2010, 20:21 #3766
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    entaksei exeis dikio mas voi8aei i diaitisia gia mia fasi sta 16 mats otan esena se pane karotsaki mpas kai pareis to prwta8lima,brrrr -5.

  7. 20-12-2010, 20:28 #3767
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezio_auditore View Post
    entaksei exeis dikio mas voi8aei i diaitisia gia mia fasi sta 16 mats otan esena se pane karotsaki mpas kai pareis to prwta8lima,brrrr -5.
    Ãéá ìéá öáóç óôá 16 ìáôò?
    Áõôá ðáèáéíåéò áðï ôïí ðïëõ óáíï ôïõ Íéêïëáêïðïõëïõ êáé ôùí öõëëáäùí ,äåí óå êáôçãïñù.
    Åìåíá ìå å÷ïõí åõíïçóåé 2 öïñåò(êáé áõôåò ôéò 2 ìå ôðô ôïóï îåêáèáñá ïóï åóåíá ìå ôçí ëáñéóá) êáé ìå å÷ïõí áäéêçóåé ðáíù áðï 5.
    Ìáëëïí å÷åéò ìðåñäåõôåé ìå ôéò åðï÷åò ðáñáãêáò ïðïõ åé÷áìå ôåôïéá,âåâáéá õðåñ ôçò ïìáäáò óïõ ðáíôá.
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  8. 20-12-2010, 20:31 #3768
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    èåò íá óïõ áíáöåñù ï÷é 2?122 öáóåéò ðïõ åõíïçèçêåò?
  9. 20-12-2010, 20:36 #3769
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    Êïéôá öéëå ìïõ ìå êïëëçìåíïõò ãáõñïõò óõæçôçóç äåí ìðïñù íá êáíù.Åéóôå åéäéêç êáôçãïñéá...
    Áí íïìéæåéò ïôé ìå åõíïåé öåôïò ç äéáéôçóéá æçóå óôïí êïóìï óïõ,äåí èá óôï ÷áëáóù.Ìçí îå÷áóåéò áõñéï ðñùé ðñùé ðñùôáèëçôç...(åêåé ðïõ äéáâáæåéò äëä ãéá áõôåò ôéò 122 öáóåéò ðïõ åõíïïõí ôïí ÐÁÏ êáé óïõ êñõâïõí ôéò 202 ðïõ åõíïïýí ôçí ïìáäá óïõ).
    Ìåôá áðï ôá ÷ñïíéá ðáñáãêáò,ôï 50-50 ðåöôåé âáñõ.Áíáìåíïìåíï èá åëåãá.
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  10. 20-12-2010, 20:45 #3770
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    Tþñá ãßíáìå êïëëçìÝíïé ãáýñïé åðåéäÞ ëÝìå ôçí ÜðïøÞ ìáò Pds êáé äåí ôñþìå áìÜóçôá áõôÜ ðïõ ëÝåé ç ðñÜóéíç êáé ïé Üëëåò öõëëÜäåò???ãéá êïßôá ôï âéíôåÜêé êáé ðåò ìïõ ìå ôï ÷Ýñé óôçí êáñäéÜ êáé ìå ðëÞñç åéëéêñßíéá áí ï ÏõñôÜäï âñßóêåé ðñùôá ÌÐÁËÁ.... http://dai.ly/fI3ZdK
    Ìçí ôñåëáèïýìå êáé ôåëåßùò ïýôå êáé ôõöëïß åßìáóôå,ìå ôçí ðñþôç ìáôéÜ ÷ùñßò ñéðëÝé öÜíçêå ðÝíáëíôé áëëÜ ï äéáéôçôÞò ðïõ Þôáí ìðñïóôÜ åßäå îåêÜèáñá üôé ï ÏõñôÜäï âñßóêåé ìðÜëá êáé äåí äßíåé óùóôÜ ôßðïôá,ãéá ôçí êüêêéíç ðïõ äåí äüèçêå äåí åßäá íá ó÷ïëéÜæåéò ôßðïôå.....å? áíôéêåéìåíéêÝ âÜæåëå?????
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  11. 20-12-2010, 20:47 #3771
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    öéëå ôï éäéï éó÷õåé êáé ìå óáò,åóõ äåí åéóáé êáëõôåñïò áõñéï ðñùé ðñùé ðñáóéíïöñïõñï êáé ðñáóéíç ôïõ ÷áóéêëá ôïõ äçìçôñáêç êáé óéãïõñá äéáâáæåéò âáóéëáñá,ïõôå åãù èá ÷áëáóù ôïí êïóìï ôïõ 50-50 óïõ,êáôá êõñéï ëïãï ìéëáù ãéá ðåñéóõ ðïõ åãéíå ôï ðïéï âñùìéêï ðñùôáèëçìá óôçí åëëáäá êáé ðáëé ðáñáëéãï íá ôï ÷áóåôå áðï åìáò ôïõò ðåèáìåíïõò,óå ðïéá ÷ñïíéá ðáñáãêáò áíáöåñåóáé?ôï 2004 ìå ôïí äïõñï?ôï 2003 ìå ôïí ôñéêáëç êáé ôï âáóóáñá?å?
  12. 20-12-2010, 20:48 #3772
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    o orismos toy faoul-penalty einai h fash....aporo ti pas na dikaiologhseis????
    http://asteiakia.gr/anekdota/konan_o_ilithios
  13. 20-12-2010, 20:50 #3773
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    Tþñá ãßíáìå êïëëçìÝíïé ãáýñïé åðåéäÞ ëÝìå ôçí ÜðïøÞ ìáò Pds êáé äåí ôñþìå áìÜóçôá áõôÜ ðïõ ëÝåé ç ðñÜóéíç êáé ïé Üëëåò öõëëÜäåò???ãéá êïßôá ôï âéíôåÜêé êáé ðåò ìïõ ìå ôï ÷Ýñé óôçí êáñäéÜ êáé ìå ðëÞñç åéëéêñßíéá áí ï ÏõñôÜäï âñßóêåé ðñùôá ÌÐÁËÁ.... http://dai.ly/fI3ZdK

    Ìå ôï ÷åñé óôçí êáñäéá êáé ìå ðëçñç åéëéêñéíéá ï÷é äåí ôçí âñéóêåé ðñùôá êáé åðéìåíù ïôé åéíáé ïñéóìïò...
    Áí èõìáóáé ïôáí ìïõ åé÷åò äùóåé åíá áëëï âéíôåï êáðïéá áëëç óôéãìç åé÷á ðáñáäå÷ôåé(äåí èõìáìáé ôé öáóç) ïôé åé÷åò äéêéï.
    Å ôùñá ï÷é äåí å÷åéò.Êáé ìçí êïéôáò ôïóï áõôï ôï êáêçò ðïéïôçôáò âéíôåï(ðïõ êáé ðáëé äåé÷íåé ïôé åéíáé ðåíáëôé)Óôï Íïâá ðïõ ôï åéäá ðïëëåò öïñåò åêáíå ìðáì ç öáóç ÷ùñéò ðïëõ óêåøç(äåí ÷ñåéáæïôáí äëä íá ôï äù ðïëëåò öïñåò).

    Ãéá ìåíá ôï íá åðéìåíåéò ïôé äåí åéíáé áõôï ðåíáëôé åéíáé êïëëçìá íáé...
    Ôé íá óïõ ðù...áðïøç ìïõ.

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    öéëå ôï éäéï éó÷õåé êáé ìå óáò,åóõ äåí åéóáé êáëõôåñïò áõñéï ðñùé ðñùé ðñáóéíïöñïõñï êáé ðñáóéíç ôïõ ÷áóéêëá ôïõ äçìçôñáêç êáé óéãïõñá äéáâáæåéò âáóéëáñá,ïõôå åãù èá ÷áëáóù ôïí êïóìï ôïõ 50-50 óïõ,êáôá êõñéï ëïãï ìéëáù ãéá ðåñéóõ ðïõ åãéíå ôï ðïéï âñùìéêï ðñùôáèëçìá óôçí åëëáäá êáé ðáëé ðáñáëéãï íá ôï ÷áóåôå áðï åìáò ôïõò ðåèáìåíïõò,óå ðïéá ÷ñïíéá ðáñáãêáò áíáöåñåóáé?ôï 2004 ìå ôïí äïõñï?ôï 2003 ìå ôïí ôñéêáëç êáé ôï âáóóáñá?å?

    Åíôáîåé êáðïõ åäù...äåí å÷ù êáôé áëëï íá ðù.Äåí å÷åé êáé íïçìá äëä.
    Åëðéæù íá åéíáé ùñáéá óôïí êïóìï ðïõ éó÷õïõí ôá ðáñáðáíù êáé íá ðåñíáò êáëá.
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  14. 20-12-2010, 20:53 #3774
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    ïê ç ìðÜëá áëëÜæåé áðü ìüíç ôçò ðïñåßá êáé ü÷é áðü ôï ðüäé ôïõ ÏõñôÜäï ôï ïðïßï åßíáé ìðñïóôÜ áðü ôïõ Ìåôßí,åíôÜîåé ñå ðáéäéÜ åßìáé êáé óôñáâüò êáé ôñåëüò.........................................
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    Åíôáîåé êáðïõ åäù...äåí å÷ù êáôé áëëï íá ðù.Äåí å÷åé êáé íïçìá äëä.
    Åëðéæù íá åéíáé ùñáéá óôïí êïóìï ðïõ éó÷õïõí ôá ðáñáðáíù êáé íá ðåñíáò êáëá.[/QUOTE]

    åõ÷áñéóôù öéëå ìïõ,áí èåò ìðïñåéò íá åñèåéò êáé óõ,åéíáé ðïëõ æåóôá êáé äåí ÷áñáìáù êáé ëåöôá ãéá êáëïñéöåñ,áðï ôé öáéíåôáé åóõ èá îåðáôùèåéò -5 êáé åðåôáé óõíå÷åéá.
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    Áí óõíå÷éóïõí ôá äùñáêéá..ï÷é +5 ..+15 èá ðáåé.

    Gtakis,áóôï áõôï ôï âéíôåï,áí êáé öáéíåôáé êáé óå áõôï ïôé õðáñ÷åé ðáñáâáóç.Ôïí áãùíá ôïí åéäåò?Ôá ó÷ïëéá óå ïëá ôá site ôá åéäåò ãéá ôçí öáóç?
    Ôé íá ðù ñå ðáéäéá,áí äåí åéíáé áõôï ðåíáëôé,ðñåðåé íá áëëáîïõìå ôïõò êáíïíéóìïõò...
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    ÐÜíôùò åßíáé ëßãï ðåñßåñãç ç öÜóç,ðñïóùðéêÜ äåí èõìÜìáé íá Ý÷ù îáíáäåß ðáñüìïéá ôá ôåëåõôáßá ÷ñüíéá.ÄçëáäÞ óýãêñïõóç óôïí áÝñá,ðëáãéïìåôùðéêÞ(êáé ïé 2 ðïõ åßíáé óôïí Üåñá ðÜíå ãéá ôçí ìðÜëá,áõôüò êáíåßò äåí ìðïñåß íá ôï áìöéóâçôÞóåé) ßóùò êáé ãéá áõôü ï óðÜèáò ðáñüôé åßíáé áêñéâþò ìðñïóôÜ äåí äßíåé ôßðïôá.ÊÜðùò ßäéá Þôáí êáé ç öÜóç óôï ìáôò ðáï-êáëáìáñéÜ ðñéí ëßãá ÷ñüíéá ìå ôçí êáñáôéÜ ôïõ Ýìðåíôå(ìåôùðéêÜ) óôï åðéèåôéêü ôçò êáëáìáñéÜò ðïõ åðßóçò äåí äþèçêå ôßðïôá ðáñüôé ôüôå ìåôÜ öùíÜæáìå åìåßò.Äåí îÝñù ìåñéêÝò öïñÝò ïé äéáéôçôÝò åßíáé ðåñßåñãïé.
    Êáé êÜôé Üëëï ðïõ ìåñéêïß Ýâñéæáí ôïí ôïñïóßäç ãéá èÝáôñï ÷ôåò.¼ðùò üëïé âëÝðåôå ç ÷éïíüìðáëá ðÝöôåé óôçí ìðÜëá êáé óêÜåé êáé êïìÜôéá ðÜãïõ óßãïõñá ôïí âñßóêïõí óôï ìÜôé.
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    Áí óõíå÷éóïõí ôá äùñáêéá..ï÷é +5 ..+15 èá ðáåé.

    Gtakis,áóôï áõôï ôï âéíôåï,áí êáé öáéíåôáé êáé óå áõôï ïôé õðáñ÷åé ðáñáâáóç.Ôïí áãùíá ôïí åéäåò?Ôá ó÷ïëéá óå ïëá ôá site ôá åéäåò ãéá ôçí öáóç?
    Ôé íá ðù ñå ðáéäéá,áí äåí åéíáé áõôï ðåíáëôé,ðñåðåé íá áëëáîïõìå ôïõò êáíïíéóìïõò...
    ÐñáãìáôéêÜ ðéóôåýåéò üôé äåí áîßæåé ï Ïëõìðéáêüò íá âñßóêåôå ðñþôïò áõôÞ ôçí óôéãìÞ ? Ðéóôåýåéò üôé ç ðñþôç èÝóç ïöåßëåôáé óôá äùñÜêéá ?

    Êé ï Ðáíáèçíáéêüò ðÝñóé åß÷å ìßá Üëöá áâÜíôá áðü ôçí äéáéôçóßá, áëëÜ Þôáí 1 åðßðåäï ðÜíù áðü ôïõò Üëëïõò.
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    ÐñáãìáôéêÜ ðéóôåýåéò üôé äåí áîßæåé ï Ïëõìðéáêüò íá âñßóêåôå ðñþôïò áõôÞ ôçí óôéãìÞ ? Ðéóôåýåéò üôé ç ðñþôç èÝóç ïöåßëåôáé óôá äùñÜêéá ?
    Aõôç ôç óôéãìç áîéæåé íá åéíáé ðñùôïò.Áëëá ïé äéáöïñá âáèìùí åéíáé óçìáíôéêç.Ãéáôé ìðïñåé áñãïôåñá íá áîéæåé ï ÐÁÏ íá åéíáé ðñùôïò êáé íá ìçí ìðïñåé...
    Áí ëïéðïí å÷ïõìå áëëá 3-4 ôåôïéá ðáé÷íéäéá êáé êáëõôåñïò íá åéíáé ï ÐÁÏ,äåí ðñïêåéôáé íá ðáñåé ôéôëï.
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    Aõôç ôç óôéãìç áîéæåé íá åéíáé ðñùôïò.Áëëá ïé äéáöïñá âáèìùí åéíáé óçìáíôéêç.Ãéáôé ìðïñåé áñãïôåñá íá áîéæåé ï ÐÁÏ íá åéíáé ðñùôïò êáé íá ìçí ìðïñåé...
    Áí ëïéðïí å÷ïõìå áëëá 3-4 ôåôïéá ðáé÷íéäéá êáé êáëõôåñïò íá åéíáé ï ÐÁÏ,äåí ðñïêåéôáé íá ðáñåé ôéôëï.
    Óôï ìéóü ðñùôÜèëçìá Þôáí ÷åéñüôåñïò êáé åßíáé 5 ðßóù. Óôï Üëëï ìéóü ðñùôÜèëçìá áí åßíáé êáëýôåñïò êáé êáôáöÝñåé íá ðåñÜóåé ìðñïóôÜ ìðïñåß íá ðÜñåé ôßôëï. ÁëëÜ ìå ôá äåßãìáôá ãñáöÞò ðïõ Ý÷åôå äþóåé áëëÜ êáé ìå áõôÜ ðïõ óõìâáßíïõí óôá äéïéêçôéêÜ ðñÝðåé êáé öÝôïò íá âãÜëïõìå ôá ìÜôéá ìáò ãéá íá ôï ðÜñåôå, üðùò êáé ðÝñóé. Êáé áêüìá êáé ðÝíáëôé íá Þôáí, ðïõ ðñïò ôá åêåß óõãêëßíù áëëÜ äåí åßìáé êáé 100% óßãïõñïò, óêÝøïõ üôé êé åóåßò ðÞñáôå Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí ìå Ýíá õðÝñ óáò ðÝíáëôé. Ïðüôå ôï -5 åßíáé áíôéðñïóùðåõôéêü
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