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    Åðßôçäåò åðÝëåîá íá ðáñáêïëïõèÞóù áðü ôï âßíôåï ìéêñÜ êïììÜôéá ôùí 20'' êáé åííïåßôáé ìå random click ãéá íá ìçí áíôéëçöèþ ôßðïôá ôçò éóôïñßáò, ðáñÜ ìïíï íá ðÜñù ìéá ãåýóç....

    Ôï ÊÁËÕÔÅÑÏ ðáé÷íßäé óôçí éóôïñßá ôïõ gaming åðáíÝñ÷åôáé ìå äåýôåñï ìÝñïò... Èá áñãÞóåé ðéóôåýù êáé åãù, áëëÜ ðïõ èá ðáåé..

    ¼óïí áöïñÜ ôçí ó÷Ýóç ôçò Ellie ìå ôçí öéëç ôçò áðï ôï left behind, èåùñþ êáôáñ÷Þí ðùò åßíáé full óôçí áôìüóöáéñá ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïý êáèþò óôçí éóôïñßá ôïõ left behind ôïíßæåôáé ðùò ç Ellie Ýìåéíå ÷ùñßò ôçí êïëëçôÞ ôçò, ôáõôü÷ñïíá üìùò õðïíïåßôáé ðùò äåí õðÞñ÷áí êáé åðéëïãÝò, ïýôå ãíùñéìßåò çëéêéáêÜ óõìâáôÝò. Ïðüôå óôçí áôìüóöáéñá èåùñåßôáé öõóéêü åðáêüëïõèï ðùò Ýíá êïñßôóé ìðïñåß íá íïéþóåé ôáõôü÷ñïíá öéëßá,åìðéóôïóýíç, Ýñùôá ãéá Ýíá Üëëï. Óáí Üíèñùðïé áóöáëþò Ý÷ïõìå áíÜãêç íá ôá ìïéñáæüìáóôå üëá áõôÜ, ðüóï ìÜëëïí óáí Ýöçâïé óå Ýíá êüóìï êáôåóôñáìÝíï êáé óôçí áôìüóöáéñá ôïõ TLOU 1. Åðßóçò ç üëç óõìðåñéöïñÜ ôçò Ellie óáí ÷áñáêôÞñáò ìáò áíÝäåéîå ðïëëÝò ðïéüôçôåò áëëÜ êáé áíèñþðéíåò åõáéóèçóßåò.

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    Ïðùò êáé íá ÷åé, ãéá ìåíá çôáí áêõñï ôï ðñùôï êáé ôï ôåëåõôáéï êïììáôé óôï trailer. Äåí ÷ñåéáæïôáí.

    Káôá ôá áëëá. Ôï gameplay êáé ôá ãñáöéêá åéíáé ôïð ïðùò áíáìåíïôáí.
    Åãù ðéóôåõù áêñéâþò ôï áíôßèåôï. Ôá êïììÜôéá áõôÜ åßíáé áðüëõôá ïõóéáóôéêÜ óôï íá êáôáëÜâïõìå ðïõ êõìáßíåôáé ôï ðáé÷íßäé. ÊÜíïõí üëï áõôü ôï ìáêåëåéü ðïõ âëÝðïõìå ìåôÜ íá Ý÷åé íüçìá. Äåß÷íïõí ôçí áíèñþðéíç ðëåõñÜ ôçò Ellie ãéá íá äåßîïõí ìåôÜ êáé ðïõ ìðïñåß íá öôÜóåé êÜôù áðü Üëëåò óõíèÞêåò.

    Áðü ôï ôñõöåñü óõíáßóèçìá, óôï áêñáßï brutality.

    Ôï part II üðùò êáé ôï ðñþôï äåí Ýìåéíå óôçí éóôïñßá ãéáôß åß÷å ùñáßá äñÜóç. ¸ìåéíå ãéáôß Ýëåãå ìéá ðïëý ùñáßá éóôïñßá, ðñùôïöáíþò áíèñþðéíç êáé ãåéùìÝíç, êÜôé ôåëåßùò äéáöïñåôéêü ìå üôé åß÷áìå äåé óå video game ìÝ÷ñé ôïôå (êáé áêüìá êáé ôþñá äåí íïìßæù üôé Ý÷ù äåé îáíÜ êÜôé áíôßóôïé÷ï)

    Êáíåéò äåí èá ôï èõìïýíôáí áí Ýëåéðå áõôÞ ç éóôïñßá ðïõ Ýäéíå âÜñïò êáé ïõóßá óôï gameplay.

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    https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/1006576990529306624


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    @ Chronohill Õðáñ÷ïõí ðïëëåò åñìçíåéåò ïðùò êáé áõôç ðïõ åäùóåò åéíáé ìéá. Ìéá áëëç åéíáé ïôé ôï ïëï i am just a girl no threat ðçãáéíåé óôï "äåí áðïôåëù áðåéëç åäù ìåóá ãéá êáðïéïí áíôñá (ðïõ èåëåé íá åéíáé ìáæé óïõ Íôéíá), äéïôé ëïãéêá óïõ áñåóïõí ïé áíôñåò" êáé öõóéêá ìåôá ç Íôéíá ôçò äéíåé íá êáôáëáâåé ïôé ïëïé ïé áíôñåò èá ðñåðåé íá ôçí öïâïõíôáé ìéáò êáé åéíáé öïõë êáøïõñåìåíç êáé áõôç ìå ôçí Ellie.

    Ïðùò åéðá èåëù ëéãï ðáñáðáíù context. Áí åéíáé êáôé ïðùò ôï ðáñáðáíù ðïõ åãñáøá ìðïñù íá ðù ïôé ìå êáëõðôåé.

    Ãéá ìÝíá åßíáé îåêÜèáñï ðÜíôùò üôé óå áõôü áíáöÝñåôáé óôçí óõãêåêñéìÝíç óêçíÞ...

    Áõôü âÝâáéá äåí áíáéñåß ôï üôé åßíáé ðïëý ðéèáíü íá ëåéôïõñãåß êáé óáí áíôéðáñáâïëÞ ìå ôçí óõíÝ÷åéá ôïõ âßíôåï êáé ôï ðüóï éêáíÞ åßíáé ç Ellie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_DiZ View Post
    https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/1006576990529306624



    ÁðáñÜäåêôïò áðëÜ!

    Åãþ ôï ëÝù, üôé áõôü ôï Tomb Raider ìïõ Ý÷åé êÜôóåé óôï ëáéìü ôï ãáìçì^íï!

    Äåí îÝñù, áëëÜ êÜôé äåí ìïõ êÜèåôáé êáëÜ áðü ôüôå ðïõ Ýìáèá üôé äåí ôï áíáëáìâÜíåé ç Crystal Dynamics.


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    Åãù ðéóôåõù áêñéâþò ôï áíôßèåôï. Ôá êïììÜôéá áõôÜ åßíáé áðüëõôá ïõóéáóôéêÜ óôï íá êáôáëÜâïõìå ðïõ êõìáßíåôáé ôï ðáé÷íßäé. ÊÜíïõí üëï áõôü ôï ìáêåëåéü ðïõ âëÝðïõìå ìåôÜ íá Ý÷åé íüçìá. Äåß÷íïõí ôçí áíèñþðéíç ðëåõñÜ ôçò Ellie ãéá íá äåßîïõí ìåôÜ êáé ðïõ ìðïñåß íá öôÜóåé êÜôù áðü Üëëåò óõíèÞêåò.

    Áðü ôï ôñõöåñü óõíáßóèçìá, óôï áêñáßï brutality.

    Ôï part II üðùò êáé ôï ðñþôï äåí Ýìåéíå óôçí éóôïñßá ãéáôß åß÷å ùñáßá äñÜóç. ¸ìåéíå ãéáôß Ýëåãå ìéá ðïëý ùñáßá éóôïñßá, ðñùôïöáíþò áíèñþðéíç êáé ãåéùìÝíç, êÜôé ôåëåßùò äéáöïñåôéêü ìå üôé åß÷áìå äåé óå video game ìÝ÷ñé ôïôå (êáé áêüìá êáé ôþñá äåí íïìßæù üôé Ý÷ù äåé îáíÜ êÜôé áíôßóôïé÷ï)

    Êáíåéò äåí èá ôï èõìïýíôáí áí Ýëåéðå áõôÞ ç éóôïñßá ðïõ Ýäéíå âÜñïò êáé ïõóßá óôï gameplay.
    Máæé óïõ ïóïí áöïñá ôï ãéáôé åãéíå åôóé. Áðëá ãéá ìåíá õðçñ÷áí êé áëëïé äñïìïé ãéá íá êáôáöåñåéò ôï éäéï ðñáãìá.
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    ¼ëá õðÝñï÷á, ôá åêðëçêôéêá ãñáöéêÜ êáé animation, êáñöß äåí ìïõ êáßãåôáé ãéá ôï öéëß êáé üëç áõôÞ ôçí õðïêñéóßá êáé ïìïöïâéá ðïõ âëÝðù óå ó÷üëéá óôï YouTube êôë, Ýíá ðñÜãìá äåí ìïõ Ý÷åé êÜôóåé ðïëõ êáëÜ áðü ôï ôñÝéëåñ....Ç Ellie åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêÞ....åííïþ ôï ðñüóùðï ôçò, äåí ìïéÜæåé ôüóï ìå áõôü óôï ðñþôï ôñÝéëåñ. Äåí îÝñù, óôï ðñþôï ôñÝéëåñ Ýâëåðá ôçí Ellie 5 ÷ñüíéá ðéï ìåãÜëç, êÜôé ðïõ äåí óõìâáßíåé åäþ, ü÷é ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí óôïí ßäéï âáèìü.

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    Åéäáíå ôï TLOU trailer óôç ubisoft êáé ôïõò ðåôá÷ôçêáí ôá ìáôéá åîù! óïõ ëååé ôé êáíïõìå åìåéò åäù?
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    1. Ôé åííïïýóå ï Üëëïò ðïõ ëÝåé üôé åßíáé fake?
    2.¶ìá Ý÷åéò ôá ðáðáñéá íá ôï ðåéò íá Ý÷åéò ê ôá ðáðáñéá
    íá ôï õðïóôçñßîåéò ê ü÷é íá ôá ìáæåýåéò ìåôÜ óá ãêïìåíéôóá.

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    Ðüóï êáéñü èá ôïõò ðÜñåé ãéá íá êáôáëÜâïõí ôé åóôß ND;....Áõôüò ï áóôåßïò ôõðÜêïò ôïõ tomb raider êáé üëïé üóïé ãñÜöïõí ãéá fake êôë.
    Ðüóá ÷ñüíéá áêüìá ðñÝðåé íá ðåñÜóïõí êáé ðüóá ðáé÷íßäéá áêïìá ðñÝðåé íá öôéÜîåé ç ÍD ãéá íá êáôáëáâïõí;

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    Íôáîåé äåí ôï Ýâáëá ãéá íá ôïí óïõâëéóïõìå, áðëÜ ìïõ öÜíçêå ðïëý êáêï ùò ó÷ïëéï. ÐáéäéÜóôéêï.
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    ìá äåí êáôáëáâáéíù ôé åííïåé fake,ãé 'áõôï ðéï ðïëõ ñùôçóá. áí åííïåé fake ôï öéëé,ìáëëïí èá çèåëå íá äåé ê ôéðïôá øáëéäéá ãéá íá ðåéóôåé.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christos-sonyboy View Post
    áí åííïåé fake ôï öéëé,ìáëëïí èá çèåëå íá äåé ê ôéðïôá øáëéäéá ãéá íá ðåéóôåé.
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    áðï resetera

    -You can go prone
    -They added a jump button
    -Lots of hiding places
    -New classes of infected
    -You are not completely hiding in the grass depends on the height
    -You can craft ammo now
    -The AI will do alot of communication like whistling to try and find you
    -They expended the AI to accommodate for the new prone they added
    -Biggest game yet still wide linear but expanded even more
    -That was just one possible play through in that vast space
    -They wanted to blur the line between what is consider a combat space and an exploration space, they wanted every place to feel like it can have combat in it.

    Êáé óå spoiler(áí êáé íïìéæù ôï ãíùñéæïõìå ïëïé)
    Spoiler!
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    ÕðïèÝôù üôé ôá ðáñáðÜíù ôá ðÞñáí áðü åäþ.

    (äåí ôï Ý÷ù äåé áêüìá)

    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostasb13 View Post
    ¼ëá õðÝñï÷á, ôá åêðëçêôéêá ãñáöéêÜ êáé animation, êáñöß äåí ìïõ êáßãåôáé ãéá ôï öéëß êáé üëç áõôÞ ôçí õðïêñéóßá êáé ïìïöïâéá ðïõ âëÝðù óå ó÷üëéá óôï YouTube êôë, Ýíá ðñÜãìá äåí ìïõ Ý÷åé êÜôóåé ðïëõ êáëÜ áðü ôï ôñÝéëåñ....Ç Ellie åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêÞ....åííïþ ôï ðñüóùðï ôçò, äåí ìïéÜæåé ôüóï ìå áõôü óôï ðñþôï ôñÝéëåñ. Äåí îÝñù, óôï ðñþôï ôñÝéëåñ Ýâëåðá ôçí Ellie 5 ÷ñüíéá ðéï ìåãÜëç, êÜôé ðïõ äåí óõìâáßíåé åäþ, ü÷é ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí óôïí ßäéï âáèìü.
    Å÷ù äåé êáé áëëïõò íá ôï ëåíå áõôï êáé åéëéêñéíá äåí ìðïñù íá êáôáëáâù ãéáôé. Äçëáäç åìåíá ìïõ öáéíåôáé ïôé ìïéáæåé ðáñá ðïëõ óôï êïñéôóáêé ðïõ çôáí. Ðñïöáíùò ìåãáëùóå êáé áëëáîå áëëá ôá ÷áñáêôçñéóôéêá ôçò ìïõ öáéíïíôáé áíáãíùñéóéìá.



    Ïé íååò ëåðôïìåñåéåò ãéá ôçí ÁÉ êáé ôï ìåãåèïò ôùí åðéðåäùí êáé ôéò ðïëëáðëåò äéáäñïìåò ìå åîéôáñïõí ðïëõ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDS View Post
    áðï resetera

    -You can go prone
    -They added a jump button
    -Lots of hiding places
    -New classes of infected
    -You are not completely hiding in the grass depends on the height
    -You can craft ammo now
    -The AI will do alot of communication like whistling to try and find you
    -They expended the AI to accommodate for the new prone they added
    -Biggest game yet still wide linear but expanded even more
    -That was just one possible play through in that vast space
    -They wanted to blur the line between what is consider a combat space and an exploration space, they wanted every place to feel like it can have combat in it.

    Êáé óå spoiler(áí êáé íïìéæù ôï ãíùñéæïõìå ïëïé)
    Spoiler!
    Åðßóçò åßðáí
    Spoiler!


    Ôï ôåëåõôáßï ðïõ åßðá ôï áíáöÝñåé êáé ôï resetera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon_DiZ View Post
    ÕðïèÝôù üôé ôá ðáñáðÜíù ôá ðÞñáí áðü åäþ.

    (äåí ôï Ý÷ù äåé áêüìá)

    Åíôáîåé ìåôá áðï áõôï ôï ðáíåë ðëåïí å÷åé öõãåé ïðïéáäçðïôå áíçóõ÷éá åé÷á. Ïé ôõðïé å÷ïõí ñéîåé ôñïìåñç äïõëåéá êáé ðñáãìáôéêá äåé÷íïõí ìåãáëç áãáðç óå áõôï ðïõ äçìéïõñãïõí. Ïé ëåðôïìåñåéåò ðïõ áíáöåñïõí ôá íåá óôïé÷åéá (ïðùò ôï dodge ðïõ åëåãá) äåé÷íïõí ïôé å÷ïõìå íá êáíïõìå ìå íåï óôáíôáñ óôç âéïìç÷áíéá.

    Åðéóçò ëïë ãéá ôïí dev áðï ôï Tomb Raider... öáíôáóôåéôå ïìùò ãéá íá ìçí ôï ðéóôåõåé áêïìá êáé áõôïò, ï ïðïéïò åìðëåêåôáé óôçí äçìéïõñãéá åíïò ðïëõ ïìïñöïõ ôå÷íéêá ðáé÷íéäéïõ... áðëá öáíôáóôåéôå óå ôé åðéðåäï å÷ïõí öôáóåé åêåé óôçí naughty Dog...

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    ÌÜæåøá êÜôé ðñáãìáôÜêéá ðïõ ìïõ Üñåóáí áðü ôçí ïìéëßá, ìüíï 2-3 íìæ üôé ôá Ýâáëå êáé ï ÂáããÝëçò


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    - ïé å÷èñïß öùíÜæïõí ï Ýíáò ôïí Üëëï ìå ôá ïíüìáôÜ ôïõò (êáéíïýñãéá ôå÷íïëïãßá)
    - ñß÷íåé hints ï Druckman üôé äåí èá åßíáé linear ç éóôïñßá
    - ìðïñïýìå íá êÜíïõìå dodge
    - ðïôÝ äåí åßóáé åíôåëþò êñõììÝíïò, ðáßæåé ñüëï ç óôÜóç óïõ, ðüóï ðõêíÞ åßíáé ç âëÜóôçóç êôë
    - ðïëëÝò áëëáãÝò (üðùò ôï íá óôñéìþ÷íåóáé óôï ðåñéâÜëëïí) áêïýãïíôáé ìéêñÝò óáí áëëáãÝò áëëÜ óôçí ðñÜîç áëëÜæïõí åíôåëþò ôï ðáé÷íßäé
    - ïëïêáßíïõñãéï óýóôçìá core animation, ôï ïðïßï ôï ÷ñçóéìïðïéåß êáé ç Ellie êáé ïé å÷èñïß. Ðéï ñåáëéóôéêü, äåí öáßíåôáé üôáí ðåñíÜíå áðü ôçí ìéá "óôÜóç" óôçí Üëëç
    - êáéíïýñãéá classes å÷èñþí
    - åßìáóôå óôï Jackson, 4 ÷ñüíéá ìåôÜ ôï ðñþôï
    - ôï ðáé÷íßäé äåí îåêéíÜåé åêåß ðïõ Ýäåéîáí óôï demo
    - facial capture more advanced than Uncharted 4
    - ç Ellie ìïéÜæåé ðïéï ðïëý ìå ôçí Ashley. Óôçí ïõóßá öôéÜîáí 2 ìïíôÝëá, ìéá ìåãáëýôåñç Ellie êáé ìéá øçöéáêÞ Ashley. Ôï ôåëéêü êñÜìá åßíáé 40% Ashley êáé 60 Ellie
    - äåí èá ðïõí ðüôå èá êõêëïöïñÞóåé ìÝ÷ñé íá åßíáé êïíôÜ ç çìåñïìçíßá
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    åõãå! íá êïéôáîïõí íá ôï êáíïõí ê áëëïé áõôï.

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