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    Default Apple iPad: Tá ðáíôá ãéá ôï íåï ìç÷áíçìá ôçò Ápple!

    H ôáìðëåôá åéíáé åäù...íåá, åíôõðùóåéò ôá ìáæåõïõìå åäù!









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    åãù ðñáãìáôéêá èá çèåëá íá ìáèù, áí êáðïéïò å÷åé êéíçôï ôåëåõôáéáò ãåíéáò, êáé åíá êáëï lap top, óå ôé èá ôïõ ÷ñçóéìÝøåé áõôç ç ôáìðëåôá?

    ¶ëëïò ìáóÜåé, êé Üëëïò óùðáßíåé
    Êé ï óêõöôüò ëáüò íá ðåñéìÝíåé
    Ãéá ôá äåóìÜ ìáò, äåí öôáßåé ðÜíôá ç óêëáâéÜ
    Ìá ç õðïôáãìÝíç ìáò êáñäéÜ
    Ì¢ Ýíá öáíÜñé îáíáãõñíÜò ôéò íõ÷ôéÝò
    ØÜ÷íåéò ãé¢ áíõðüôá÷ôåò ìáôéÝò.

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    ðïõèåíÜ....êáëýôåñá íá ìçí ôï ðÜñåé
    êáëýôåñá íá ðáëåýåé ìå ìéêñÞ ïèüíç (êáé íá Ý÷åé ìåãÜëá äÜêôõëá, áêüìá "êáëýôåñá") êáé áíôßóôïé÷á ìå ìéá ìåãÜëç ìå Windoze ...ãéá áðëÜ ðñÜìáôá, êáèçìåñéíüôçôáò.

    ÐÜíôùò ðÝñáí ðëÜêáò, ãéá ôïõò ðåñéóóüôåñïõò ¸ëëçíåò êáé Åëëçíßäåò ÷ñçóôåò ôï iPad, äåí êÜíåé. Äåí õðÜñ÷åé åðáñêÝò ðåñéå÷üìåíï, ìå target group ôï åëëçíéêü êïéíü. Óõíåðþò üóïé ¸ëëçíåò / íéäåò ôï ðÜñïõí Þ åßíáé early adopters Þ åßíáé Apple - ðùñïìÝíïé Þ åßíáé pozers (Ýôóé äåí ôï ëÝìå óôï óïõâëáêéóôÜí; )....

    Ãéá áõôü ëÝù: áò ôï áöÞóïõìå êáëýôåñá ãéá ôï ÅëëáäéóôÜí...ßóùò íá áó÷ïëçèïýìå ìå ôï iPad 2 (Þ üðùò áëëéþò èá ëÝãåôáé).......êáé ðÜëé ìüíï áí Ý÷åé Flash êáé äõíáôüôçôá åããñáöÞò êáé áíáãíþñéóçò áñ÷åßùí áðï ôï MS Office (êëáýôá ×áñÜëáìðå äçëáäÞ).


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    ¼÷é ôþñá óïâáñÜ, ôé áêñéâþò ðñïóöÝñåé óå Ýíáí åðáããåëìáôßá áõôü ôï ðñïéüí? Ôé ðáñáðÜíù áðü Ýíá êáëü smartphone. Êáé ìç ìïõ áñ÷ßóåéò ôá ðåñß ìéêñÞò ïèüíçò êáé ìåãÜëùí äáêôýëùí ãéáôß áí ìïõ ðåéò üôé áõôü ôï ðñÜãìá ÷ùñÜåé óôçí ôóÝðç óïõ èá ôñåëáèþ. ¶íôå ï Military ãïõóôÜñåé ôï ó÷Ýäéï. Ïé õðüëïéðïé? Êáé ëåò ãéá ôï óïõâëáêéóôÜí. Äëä üïïïïëç ç õöÞëéïò ÷ñçóéìïðïéåß Mac êáé åìåßò "êñáôÜìå" áðïêëåéóôéêÜ ôç Microsoft æùíôáíÞ? Ëåò ãéá ôï Office. Åì öõóéêÜ, áí åãþ èÝëù íá Ý÷ù ìáæß ìïõ ôïõò ôéìïêáôáëüãïõò ôçò äïõëåéÜò ìïõ, èá èÝëù õðïóôÞñéîç ôïõ Office, ôé èá êÜíù äëä, èá õðï÷ñåþóù ôïí åéóáãùãÝá êáé üëï ôï õðüëïéðï äßêôõï áíôéðñïóþðùí íá îïäÝøïõí åðéðëÝïí ÷ñÞìáôá êáé åéäéêÜ ÷ñüíï ãéá íá áëëÜîïõí óõóôÞìáôá þóôå åãþ íá ìçí åßìáé êÜôïéêïò óïõâëáêéóôÜí?

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    ôï üôé ÷áñáêôçñßæù ôï åíäïôïðßï "óïõâëáêéóôÜí" Ý÷åé íá êÜíåé ìå ÷éëéÜäåò Üëëïõò ëüãïõò çìéìÜèåéáò, ü÷é óå ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçí Apple. Êáé óå ðáñáêáëþ (), áõôÞ ôç öñÜóç ôç ÷ñçóéìïðïéþ ðÜíù áðï 15 ÷ñüíéá .

    ÅðáíáëáìâÜíù êáé ÷ùñßò ðëÜêá: ôï iPad äåí êÜíåé ãéá êáíÝíáí åðáããåëìáôßá, äåí ó÷åäéÜóôçêå ðïôÝ ãéá áõôüí. Ôåëåßá êáé ðáýëá. Ïðüôå íïìßæù üôé åßóáé êáëõììÝíïò, ü÷é åðåéäÞ ôï åßðá åãþ, áëëÜ åðåéäÞ ðïôÝ ç Apple äåí åßðå üôé ðñïïñßæåôáé ãéá ôïí åðáããåëìáôßá (ôïí åðáããåëìáôßá ãñáöåßïõ, ãéáôß ôïí åðáããåëìáôßá ãñáößóôá ôïí âïëåýåé).

    ÔÝëïò ðÜíôùí, äåí ìå íïéÜæåé êéüëáò ôé èá êÜíåé ï êáèÝíáò - ðñüâëçìÜ ôïõ óôç ôåëéêÞ, áò äéáâÜóåé / êñßíåé / áðïöáóßóåé ìüíïò ôïõ, äåí åßìáé äá êáé ìÝôï÷ïò óôçí Apple íá ìå óõìöÝñåé íá ðñïùèþ ôá ðñïéüíôá ôçò!

    Áðï åêåß êáé ðÝñá üìùò, ðÝñáí ìéáò óïâáñÞò Üðïøçò êáôáôåèåéìÝíçò áðï ôïí ÂáããÝëç / Sutorcen, äåí åßäá ôßðïôå Üëëï áðï èÜøéìï, êáôÜêñéóç êáé åí ôÝëåé áðüññéøç áðï ôïõò ðåñéóóüôåñïõò. Åýêïëï íá áðïññßðôåéò äå ëÝù, áëëå ñå ãìô, áò áêïýóïõìå êáé ìåñéêÝò áðüøåéò ÐÅÑÁÍ ôïõ MS ôïðßïõ, ÐÅÑÁÍ ôùí åðáããåëìáôéêþí áíáãêþí......ç ôå÷íïëïãßá äåí åßíáé ìüíï äïõëåéÜ êáé åñãáóßá Þ gaming. Åßíáé êáé ìåñÜêé, åßíáé êáé öáíôáóßá, åßíáé äéïñáôéêüôçôá, åßíáé, åßíáé, åßíáé....åðáíáëáìâÜíù, ìüíï ï ÂáããÝëçò "Ýðéáóå" êÜðùò ôï íüçìá ôïõ Jobs.

    Êñßìá üìùò ðïõ ÷Üèçêå ôï ðïóô ôïõ.



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    ¼÷é ôþñá óïâáñÜ, ôé áêñéâþò ðñïóöÝñåé óå Ýíáí åðáããåëìáôßá áõôü ôï ðñïéüí? Ôé ðáñáðÜíù áðü Ýíá êáëü smartphone. Êáé ìç ìïõ áñ÷ßóåéò ôá ðåñß ìéêñÞò ïèüíçò êáé ìåãÜëùí äáêôýëùí ãéáôß áí ìïõ ðåéò üôé áõôü ôï ðñÜãìá ÷ùñÜåé óôçí ôóÝðç óïõ èá ôñåëáèþ. ¶íôå ï Military ãïõóôÜñåé ôï ó÷Ýäéï. Ïé õðüëïéðïé? Êáé ëåò ãéá ôï óïõâëáêéóôÜí. Äëä üïïïïëç ç õöÞëéïò ÷ñçóéìïðïéåß Mac êáé åìåßò "êñáôÜìå" áðïêëåéóôéêÜ ôç Microsoft æùíôáíÞ? Ëåò ãéá ôï Office. Åì öõóéêÜ, áí åãþ èÝëù íá Ý÷ù ìáæß ìïõ ôïõò ôéìïêáôáëüãïõò ôçò äïõëåéÜò ìïõ, èá èÝëù õðïóôÞñéîç ôïõ Office, ôé èá êÜíù äëä, èá õðï÷ñåþóù ôïí åéóáãùãÝá êáé üëï ôï õðüëïéðï äßêôõï áíôéðñïóþðùí íá îïäÝøïõí åðéðëÝïí ÷ñÞìáôá êáé åéäéêÜ ÷ñüíï ãéá íá áëëÜîïõí óõóôÞìáôá þóôå åãþ íá ìçí åßìáé êÜôïéêïò óïõâëáêéóôÜí?
    Óõìöùíþ ìå üëá üóá ëåò áðëÜ èÝëù íá ó÷ïëéÜóù êÜôé ðïëý áðëü ðÜíù óôá bold ãéá ôï office... Ç êáôÜñá ôçò âéïìç÷áíßáò ôïõ software åßíáé ç ìç óõìâáôüôçôá... Ï êáèÝíáò âãáßíåé êáé êÜíåé ôá äéêÜ ôïõ öïñìáô, öôéÜ÷íåé ôá äéêÜ ôïõ ðñïãñÜììáôá ÷ùñßò íá êïéôÜåé ôç óõìâáôüôçôá ìå ôïõò õðïëïßðïõò. Êáé ìÜëéóôá ôþñá ìå ôçí áíÜðôõîç ôïõ linux ôá ðñÜãìáôá åßíáé ðïëý êáëýôåñá...

    Ôá êëåéóôÜ öïñìÜô ðñÝðåé íá ðåèÜíïõí... Êëåéóôü öïñìÜô óçìáßíåé üôé åîáñôÜóáé áðü ôçí åôáéñßá ðïõ óå ðñïìçèåýåé ôï ðñïéüí êáé åßóáé áíáãêáóìÝíïò íá ðåñéìÝíåéò åêåßíç ãéá ôï ïôéäÞðïôå...

    ¸÷åôå óêåöôåß üôé ìåôÜ áðü 20 ÷ñüíéá ðïõ ìðïñåß íá ÷ñåéáóôåßôå íá äåßîåôå êÜðïéåò öùôïãñáößåò óôá ðáéäéÜ óáò íá ìçí ìðïñåßôå íá ôéò áíáðáñÜãåôå ãéáôß ôï jpeg ð÷. ìðïñåß íá ÷åé ðåèÜíåé êáé íá ìçí õðÜñ÷åé õðïóôÞñéîç?? Êáé ðïõ íá óêåöôåßôå ôï ßäéï ðñÜãìáôá ãéá ôï office êáé ôá docx êëð ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýìå ìå ôüóç åõêïëßá... Ðïéïò ìáò õðïãñÜöåé üôé ç MS (åÜí õðÜñ÷åé) óå 20 ÷ñüíéá èá âãÜæåé áêüìç office?? Áí êëåßóåé áýñéï ôï ðñùß? Ôé èá ãßíïõí ôá áñ÷åßá óáò áõôÜ? Êáé ìçí íïìßæåôå üôé õðåñâÜëëù ãéáôß åôáéñåßåò êïëïóóïß êëåßóáíå ðïõ êáíÝíáò äå ôï ðåñßìåíå.

    Áõôü ðïõ èÝëù íá ðù åßíáé ðéï ãåíéêü áðü ôï ipad áðëÜ ðÞñá ôçí áöïñìÞ áðü ôï ó÷üëéï ôïõ topgun. Åßóôå óßãïõñïé üôé ôá áñ÷åßá ðïõ "öõëÜôå" èá ìðïñåßôå íá ôá "ðáßîåôå" üôáí Ýñèåé ç þñá?? Ãé áõôü êÜíôå üôé ìðïñåßôå ãéá íá õðïóôçñßîåôå áíïé÷ôÜ öïñìÜô ôá ïðïßá åßíáé áíáãíùñéóìÝíá áðü üëïõò!!!

    Äåí åßíáé ôõ÷áßïò ï "ðüëåìïò" ðïõ Üíïéîå ç apple ìå ôçí adobe ãéá ôï flash... Åßíáé ìåãÜëï æÞôçìá ôï óõãêåêñéìÝíï ãéá ôá formats êáé ðùò êáé ãéá ðüóï èá õðïóôçñßæïíôáé... Ïé ðáëéïß óßãïõñá ôï Ý÷ïõí âéþóåé óôï ðåôóß ôïõò áõôü ðïõ ëÝù...
    Ñǿñßöŗň™ is back on business ...

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    Äåí åßíáé ôõ÷áßïò ï "ðüëåìïò" ðïõ Üíïéîå ç apple ìå ôçí adobe ãéá ôï flash... Åßíáé ìåãÜëï æÞôçìá ôï óõãêåêñéìÝíï ãéá ôá formats êáé ðùò êáé ãéá ðüóï èá õðïóôçñßæïíôáé... Ïé ðáëéïß óßãïõñá ôï Ý÷ïõí âéþóåé óôï ðåôóß ôïõò áõôü ðïõ ëÝù...


    Áõôü îáíáðÝóôï........ðïõ íá áñ÷ßóù êáé ðïõ íá ôåëåéþóù ìå ôéò ìÜ÷åò.......
    ìÞðùò Betamax êáé VHS ãéá ôï ðïéï èá åðéêñáôÞóåé óôçí ïéêéáêÞ áãïñÜ;
    ìÞðùò DAT, DCC, MiniDisc;;;;;;
    ìÞðùò Commodore (50 ÷ñüíéá) êáé Atari (30 ÷ñüíéá)...Ýêëåéóáí êáé ïé äýï áñ÷Ýò 90ò.
    ìÞðùò
    ìÞðùò
    ìÞðùò;

    ÊáëÜ êÜíåé ï Jobs êáé áðïññßðôåé ôï Flash..ï äñüìïò ï êïéíüò ÷ùñßò åîáñôÞóåéò óå 3ïõò äåß÷íåé ôçí html5. ÔÝ - ËËË- ïò.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefteris_X View Post
    ......ç ôå÷íïëïãßá äåí åßíáé ìüíï äïõëåéÜ êáé åñãáóßá Þ gaming. Åßíáé êáé ìåñÜêé, åßíáé êáé öáíôáóßá, åßíáé äéïñáôéêüôçôá, åßíáé, åßíáé, åßíáé....
    ¼ôáí ðçãáßíáíå êáëÜ ïé äïõëåéÝò ìÝ÷ñé êáé ôï R380 åß÷á áãïñÜóåé êÜðïôå, ùñáßá ôá ìåñÜêéá êáé ç öáíôáóßá, áëëÜ Ýöôáóá 26 ÷ñïíþí, áñêåôÜ ðåéñáìáôéóôÞêáí åðÜíù ìïõ êáé óôá ëåöôÜ ìïõ ïé åôáéñåßåò ôå÷íïëïãßáò, ðëÝïí áöÞíù Üëëïõò ðéï ÷áëáñïýò (ïéêïíïìéêÜ, ÷ñïíéêÜ, íïçôéêÜ, üðùò èåò) íá ìïõ ÷ñçìáôïäïôïýí ôo êÜèå Ôå÷íïëïãïìáñáöÝôé 2.0 áãïñÜæïíôáò ôï 1.0 (ãéá íá ìçí ðù 0.8) óáí ðñüâáôá. ¶ëëùóôå êáé åãþ óå ðïóô ìïõ ðïõ Ý÷åé óâçóôåß åßðá üôé áí Þôáí Üëëç ç ïéêïíïìéêÞ óõãêõñßá ßóùò ôï óêåöôüìïõíá áñêåôÜ íá ôï ôóéìðÞóù, áëëÜ ôþñá ðñïóðáèþ íá óôñéìþîù êÜðïõ óôïí ðñïõðïëïãéóìü êáíÝíá óïâáñü smartphone, ðïõ íá ðáßæù ìå ôç ëåéøÞ Ýêäïóç åíüò áìöéâüëïõ ÷ñçóôéêüôçôáò gadgetßïõ.

    ¼óï äå ãéá ôá áíïé÷ôÜ format êáé ôï compatibility ìáêÜñé íá åõäïêéìÞóåé ç üëç éóôïñßá, áëëÜ ôçí ôåëåõôáßá öïñÜ ðïõ Ýãéíå ðñïóðÜèåéá ãéá Ýñåõíá äß÷ùò êÝñäïò Þôáí åðß óïâéåôéêÞò Ýíùóçò êáé õðáñêôïý óïóéáëéóìïý. Å, íïìßæù üôé äåí åßíáé ðïëëïß åäþ ìÝóá ðïõ èá ðñïôéìïýóáí Ýíá Lada Þ Ýíá Yugo áíôß ãéá ïôéäÞðïôå Üëëï... Ôüóá ÷ñüíéá ðáéäåõüìáóôå ìå ôï Linux åßäáôå åóåßò íá ðñï÷ùñÜåé ôðô? ¸÷åôå äïêéìÜóåé íá ôñÝîåôå Ýããñáöá óôï OpenOffice öôéáãìÝíá ìå MS Office, Üëë'áíô'Üëëá êïõôñïõâÜëá.

    Ãéá ôïí äå Jobs, íáé, óéãÜ ìçí ôïõ êÜíïõìå êáé Üãáëìá, ï Üíèñùðïò åßíáé éäéïöõßá óôï íá ðïõëÜåé öýêéá ãéá ìåôáîùôÝò êïñäÝëåò êáé áí ìç ôé Üëëï Ý÷åé áðïäåßîåé üôé äåí åßíáé íá êáôçãïñåßò ôïí Gates, áöïý ï êüóìïò æçôÜåé íá ôïí "ðñïâáôïðïéïýí", äéøÜåé ãéá íüñìåò, âïëåýåôáé óôï Ýôïéìï êáé óõíáñðÜæåôáé áðü ôï öáíôá÷ôåñü. Êáé ãéá íá óõíå÷ßóù ôçí ðéï ðÜíù ðñüôáóç, ãéáôß ìå ôá õðåñêÝñäç ôïõ äå ÷ñçìáôïäïôåß ôçí áíÜðôõîç áíïéêôþí ðñïôýðùí êáé ôç äéÜäïóÞ ôïõò?
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    Ïëï éäååò áõôç ç Apple!Åëåïò ôé áëëï èá äïõìå? iBook , iTv ,iDVD êáé ðáåé ç ëéóôá....iPhone , iMac , Macbooks ãéá åìåíá åéíáé ôïð!
    Åëðéæù êáðïéá óôéãìç íá ðáñù macbook

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    Ïê äå÷ïìáé ïôé äåí õðïóôçñéæåé flash åðåéäç....åéëéêñéíá äåí îåñù ãéáôé... áëëá áò ðïõìå ïôé ãéíåôáé ìå ôçí ëïãéêç ôïõ "êïéôáù ìðñïóôá" ïðùò âãáéíåé áðï ôá ôåëåõôáéá ìçíõìáôá. (ãéáôé áõôï ôï íïçìá âãáéíåé êáé ï÷é ìçí áñ÷éóïõìå ðáëé íá åííïïõìå åìåóóùò ðëçí óáöùò ïôé åéìáóôå âëáêåò êáé äåí êáôáëáâáéíïõìå ëïãù áíõðáñêôçò íïçìïóõíçò ôé èåëåôå íá ðåéôå êáé ôé ãñáöåôå êëð êëð)

    Ùñáéá ëïéðïí.Áêïõù åãù ï âëáêáò, ï áíçîåñïò ôïõ Óïõâëáêéóôáí , ï ìçäåí ôïõ ìçäåíïò , ï äåí "êáôáëáâáéíù" ôçí öéëïóïöéá ôïõ ìåëëïíôïò , ï ðñïóêïëëçìåíïò óôï ðáñåëèïí êáé çìéìáèåéò ôçò ôå÷íïëïãéêçò åîåëéîçò ôïí êõñéï Steve Jobs íá ìïõ ëååé ôï åîçò :

    "The Ipad is the best way to experience the internet!!"

    Yeah ëåù åãù ï êáñáâëá÷ïò êáé ðáù êáé ôá óêáù êáé ôï áãïñáæù.Ôé ùñáéá ôé êáëá ìðáéíù ëïéðïí íá äù åíá flash video êáé ôï ìç÷áíçìá ðïõ åéíáé ç êáëõôåñç åìðåéñéá ever ìå÷ñé åêåéíç ôçí óôéãìç ãõñíáåé êáé ìïõ ëååé "ÐÑÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÔÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓÓ"...

    Åöïóïí ëïéðïí ôï ðñïâëçìá äåí åéíáé ç öéëïóïöéá ôïõ ipad , êáé åöïóïí ôï Ipad åéíáé ç êáëõôåñç åìðåéñéá êáé åãù ðñïóêïëëçìåíïò óôï ðáñåëèïí/óôçí ôå÷íïëïãéêç ìïõ çìéìáèåéá, äéá ôçò áôïðïõ áðáãùãçò óõìðåñáéíù áðï áõôá ðïõ ìïõ ëåôå ïôé åãù èá ðñåðåé íá âñéóù áõôïõò ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéïõí flash player óôéò éóôïóåëéäåò ôïõò , äéïôé ç Apple äåí ôï äå÷åôáé áõôï âáóç öéëïóïöéáò!

    Ïê ñå ðáéäéá... áí ôï "êïéôáù ìðñïóôá" ,óçìáéíåé "îå÷íáù/äåí äéíù äåêáñá óå ïôé å÷åé ðñïçãçèåé" , ôïôå íá ìçí õðïóôçñéæåé ï÷é áðëá ìïíï flash player , áëëá åíá åêáôïììõñéï áëëá ðáñïìïéá óôïé÷åéá ðïõ õöéóôáíôáé áðï ôçí åðï÷ç ôïõ Íùå, áðëá êáé ìïíï ãéá íá ëååé åêáíá ôçí äéáöïñá êáé áò ìçí êáôáëáâáéíïõí ïé áíèñùðïé ôïõ Óïõâëáêéóôáí, áí èåëïõí íá êáôáëáâïõí íá êáôóïõí íá óðïõäáóïõí , íá áðïêôçóïõí ðôõ÷éï êáé íôïêôïñá...

    Káé êáíåéò äåí "åèáøå" ... êñéôéêç êáíáìå âáóç áõôùí ðïõ áêïõóáìå!Å÷ù âãáëåé ôï êáðåëï ðïëëåò öïñåò óôçí Apple ìå ôï Mac êáé ôï iphone Ìïõ åéìáé êáôáåõ÷áñéóôçìåíïò, áëëá èá êáíù äñéìõôáôç êñéôéêç ïôáí êáðïéïò ìïõ ëååé -óïññõ êéïëáò- ìëêéåò...ãéáôé ï Steve Jobs åëåãå áðëá ìëêéåò.Ôùñá áí ôï åðé÷åéñçìá ìáò "ãéáôé äåí å÷åé flash õðïóôçñéîç" áíôéêñïõåôáé ìå èåìáôá öéëïóïöéáò , Óïõâëáêéóôáí êëð , å óõãíùìç áëëá ðåñéìåíù êáôé êáëõôåñï ãéá íá óôáìáôçóù íá ãêñéíéáæù.Êáé ìçí ìïõ ðåéôå ïôé ôï íá õðïóôçñéæåé flash player åéíáé åðáããåëìáôéêçò öõóåùò èåìá... âåâáéá ïõôå êáé ôï íá ìðïñåéò íá ãñáøåéò åíá êåéìåíï óå word ôï èåùñù êáèáñá "åðáããåëìáôéêï" èåìá , áëëá ôåóðá áò ôï äå÷ôù.Ôï flash ïìùò åéíáé ãéá äéáóêåäáóç...ãéá éíôåñíåô browsing , áõôï ðïõ ìáò ëååé ï jobs ôï Ipad êáíåé êáëõôåñá áðï ïôéäçðïôå áëëï.Åðéóçò äåí ÷ñçóéìïðïéåé ìïíï ôï Åëëáäéóôáí flash...ïëïò ï êïóìïò ôï ÷ñçóéìïðïéåé...êáé ç Apple ëååé "ðñéôò" åðåéäç å÷åé èåìá ìå ôçí adobe, áëëá ðáñïëáõôá ìïõ ðåôáåé ôï promotional bullshit : "Ipad best internet experience ever!" Aì äå....!

    Å ï÷é åíôáîåé äçëáäç êáôá êáðïéï ôñïðï , åíôïíï êéïëáò , èåùñù ïôé ïëï áõôï åéíáé ðñïóâëçôéêï ï÷é ìïíï ðñïò åìåíá áëëá êáé áñêåôïõò.Äåí ÷ñåéáæåôáé íá åéìáé ïõôå ôå÷íéêïò Ç/Õ ïõôå íá å÷ù óðïõäáóåé óôçí æùç ìïõ êáôé ðáñïìïéï , ïõôå íá åéìáé 80 ÷ñïíùí êáé íá å÷ù äïêéìáóåé êáèå ëïãçò gadget ãéá íá îåñù ïôé áõôï ôï ãáìùflash player ÷ñåéáæåôáé, ãéá íá å÷ù ôï äéêáéùìá íá ëåù "best experience ever!"Ëáôñåõù ôçí Apple , êñáôáù åðéöõëáîåéò óå ïôé ëåù, áëëá äåí èá ôçò ãëõöù êáé ôïí êùëï åðåéäç îå÷åéëùóå ôï ipod touch...

    ÕÃ: @Nonborn å÷åéò äéêéï ãéá ôá êëåéóôá öïñìáô ïôé ðñåðåé íá ðåèáíïõí óõìöùíù êáé åðáõîáíù.Êáé ç apple ïìùò äåí ðáåé ðéóù... ìáëéóôá åéíáé áêïìá ðéï "êëåéóôç" áðï áëëåò åôáéñåéåò , áó÷åôùò âåâáéá ôï ïôé ôá ðñïãñáììáôá ôçò ïëá åéíáé åîáéñåôéêá.Äåí áðïêëåéåé ïìùò áõôï ðïõ ëåò êáé áíçóõ÷åéò ãéá ôï ìåëëïí.Éóá éóá ðïõ åéíáé ìåãáëõôåñåò ïé ðéèáíïôçôåò íá óõìâåé áõôï ìå ôçí Apple.

    ÕÃ2: Ôï îåñù ïôé êáðïéá óôéãìç èá ëõèåé ôï èåìá ôïõ flash player ìå èåìéôï Þ ï÷é ôñïðï (âëåðå jailbreak) ïìùò èåùñù ïôé óå áõôçí ôçí ðåñéðôùóç ç öéëïóïöéá ôçò Apple åéíáé ôï Óïõâëáêéóôáí êáé ï÷é åãù.
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    ôï üôé ÷áñáêôçñßæù ôï åíäïôïðßï "óïõâëáêéóôÜí" Ý÷åé íá êÜíåé ìå ÷éëéÜäåò Üëëïõò ëüãïõò çìéìÜèåéáò, ü÷é óå ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçí Apple. Êáé óå ðáñáêáëþ (), áõôÞ ôç öñÜóç ôç ÷ñçóéìïðïéþ ðÜíù áðï 15 ÷ñüíéá .
    ôï "Üëëïõò" íïìßæù üôé åßíáé êáôáíïçôü.

    Åðßóçò ðïôÝ ìá ðïôÝ ïýôå Ýììåóá - ïýôå åõèÝùò ÷ëåýáóá / áðïêÜëåóá ÷áñáêôçñéóìü óå êÜðïéïí ðñïóùðéêÜ.


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    ÔÝëïò ðÜíôùí, äåí ìå íïéÜæåé êéüëáò ôé èá êÜíåé ï êáèÝíáò - ðñüâëçìÜ ôïõ óôç ôåëéêÞ, áò äéáâÜóåé / êñßíåé / áðïöáóßóåé ìüíïò ôïõ, äåí åßìáé äá êáé ìÝôï÷ïò óôçí Apple íá ìå óõìöÝñåé íá ðñïùèþ ôá ðñïéüíôá ôçò!

    íá ìçí åðáíáëáìâÜíïìáé, ÷3óô*êá êéüëáò ãéá ôçí Apple, åäþ âïõëéÜæïõìå åèíéêþò ïééêïíïìéêÜ (áðïëýóåéò, ðñïâëÞìáôá óôéò äïõëåéÝò, êëðêëð ôá ãíùóôÜ ìçí ôá ëÝìå, ôá âëÝðåôå / âëÝðïõìå üëïé êÜèå ìÝñá) êáé ôñÝ÷ïõìå óáí "ÂÝããïé"....óôçí ôåëéêÞ äå ðá íá ****èåé êáé ôï iPad / flad / kebab.

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    ^^ Óáöùò êáé äåí ÷ëåõáóåò ðñïóùðéêá êáðïéïí Ëåõôåñç.Åììåóá ïìùò , êáé äåí ôï ëåù ôùñá ìå êáêç ðñïèåóç, áðï ôá ìçíõìáôá óïõ ôåëåõôáéá(äåí öáéíïíôáé åäù äéïôé ï óåñâåñ ðçãå ðåñéðáôï ) ìïéáæåé íá õðïóôçñéæåéò ïôé äåí êáíåé êáôé ëáèïò ç Apple êáé ïôé áðëá ï õðïëïéðïò êïóìïò áäõíáôåé íá óõëëáâåé ôçí öéëïóïöéá ôçò êáé ôï ðïóï ìðñïóôá åéíáé.

    [Óçìåéùóç: Óå áõôï äåí äéáöùíù åî ïëïêëçñïõ íá ôï óçìåéùóù áõôï.Îåñåéò ìå ôé ëïãéá å÷ù ìéëçóåé ãéá ôï Mac êëð êëð.Êñéíù ïìùò ôá ðáíôá ìå âáóç áõôï ðïõ åéíáé.Êáé åäù ìå ôï Ipad å÷åé êáíåé êáðïéá êñáõãáëåá ëáèç êáôá ôçí ôáðåéíç ìïõ áðïøç ðáíôá! ]

    Eðéóçò áñêåôåò öïñåò , êáé ðáëé ìçí ôï ðáñåéò óôñáâá óôï ëåù îåêáèáñá áëëá ðáñáëëçëá êáé öéëéêá, áðï ôïí ôñïðï ðïõ ãñáöåéò íéùèù êáôá êáðïéï ôñïðï ïôé äåí êáôáëáâáéíù åðåéäç "äåí îåñù" Þ åðåéäç äåí å÷ù ôéò ðïëõ êáëåò ãíùóåéò áëëùí áíèñùðùí ïðùò åóõ (êáé ôï ðáñáäå÷ïìáé) óôï åí ëïãù áíôéêåéìåíï.Ðñáãìáôéêá ï ôñïðïò ðïõ áðáíôáò ìå êáíåé íá íïìéæù ïôé åéìáé ÷áæïò!Ïôé äçëáäç åãù äåí å÷ù óõëëáâåé åðáñêùò ôï ïëï èåìá ìå ôï Ipad ðñùôïí ëïãù åëåéðùí ãíùóåùí , êáé äåõôåñïí åðåéäç ìáò å÷ïõí ìáèåé íá æïõìå êáé íá ëåéôïõñãïõìå ìå åíá óõãêåêñéìåíï ôñïðï.

    Äåí íïìéæù ïìùò ïôé äåí ìðïñù íá áíôéëçöèù ôá êáëá ôçò Apple.Ôï åêáíá êáé ìå ôo Mac êáé ìå ôï Iphone ðïõ ìéëçóá ìå äéèõñáìâéêá ó÷ïëéá áðï ôéò åìðåéñéåò ìïõ êáé áêïìá ôï êáíù.Áëëá ìå ôï ipad äåí ìðïñù ðñáãìáôéêá íá äéêáéïëïãçóù êáðïéá ðñáãìáôá êáé äåí èåùñù ïôé öôáéíå ïõôå ïé ðåñéïñéóìåíåò ãíùóåéò ìïõ, ïõôå ôï ðïóï ðéóù åéíáé ç Åëëáäá óå êáðïéá èåìáôá, ðïõ åðéìåíù ôï ðñïâëçìá äåí åéíáé ìïíï ôçò Åëëáäáò, áëëá ãéá ïëï ôïí êïóìï.Ïðùò áíôéëáìâáíïìáé ôá èåôéêá , åôóé èåùñù ïôé ìðïñù íá åíôïðéóù ôá áñíçôéêá.

    Åëðéæù íá êáôáëáâáéíåéò.Åãù êáôáëáâáéíù ïôé åíáò áíèñùðïò ìå ðïëëåò ãíùóåéò ìðïñåé íá å÷åé ìéá áðïøç ðáñáðáíù êáé ôçí óåâïìáé êáé ôçí áíáæçôù ðñáãìáôéêá ãé áõôï êáé ãïõóôáñù ôçí ðñïóöïñá óïõ óå èåìáôá ôå÷íïëïãéáò êáé ôïí äéáâáæù ìå ðñïóï÷ç ìðáò êáé ìáèù êáôé (áëçèåéá), áðëá ìçí ôïíéæåéò ôïóï ðïëõ ïôé åðåéäç äåí å÷ù/åé (ïðïéïóäçðïôå) ôéò éäéåò ãíùóåéò äåí ìðïñåé íá êáôáëáâåé ðïôå êáðïéïò ôïõ ëååé ìëêéåò êáé ðïôå ï÷é.

    Ãéáôé ï Steve Jobs ãéá åìåíá åëåãå ìëêéåò ïôáí åé÷å áíåâåé óôçí óêçíç êáé åëåãå ãéá ôçí êáëõôåñç åìðåéñéá, áðï ôçí óôéãìç ðïõ õöéóôáíôáé ðñïâëçìáôá õðïóôçñéîçò ëïãéóìéêïõ.

    YÃ: Åéëéêñéíá åëðéæù íá ìçí ðáñåîçãçèåéò áðï ôï ìçíõìá ìïõ, ï ãñáðôïò ëïãïò åéíáé ðåñéåñãïò...ïðùò êáëëéóôá ìðïñåé íá åéíáé êáé ç ðåñéðôùóç ìïõ ãéá ôïí ôñïðï ðïõ åêëáìâáíù êáðïéá ëåãïìåíá óïõ åôóé åííïåéôáé êáé ðïëõ ðéèáíïí íá åéíáé êáé ç áéôéá áõôïõ ôïõ ðïóô ìïõ!
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    ?? ???? ????? ??? ????????????? ???? ??? ???????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????? ???.
    ?????????? ??? ?? flash,??? ??? ?? ???? ?? ????????? ?? ?? ?? ??????? ??????? ???? ? apple,?? ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???????.? ??????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ?? ? ????????? ??? flash ??? ??? ??????? ?? ??????? ???? ?????.??? ??? ??????????? ??? ?????? ??? flash.?? ???? ?????? ??? ??? iphone.?????? ?? ??????????? ???????????? ??? ???? "???? ????? ?? ??????",?? ?? ??????? ?? ?? ??????

    ?? ??? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ? ??? ??????????.? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ??????? ??? ???????????? job$(??? ?? ??? ??????? ??? ?? ???????!),? ?????? ??????????? ??? revolutionary device.? ?????????? ??? ????????? ?? ??? ?? ?????,???? ????? ?? ????????? ????? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ??????? ?? ??????????,???? ??????? ?? ????????.
    ???? ?? pc ????? ??? ??????,???? ??? ?????????? ???? ??????????.?? ???? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ?????????.???? ???? ?????????.

    ?? ?? ???????? ???? ??? ??? ?? ????????? ??? ????? ??? ????? ???? ??????????,??? ?????????? ?? ?????? iphone ?? ??????? ????????? ??? ??? ????? ??? ????? ??? ?? ?? ???????????? ??? ??? ??? ????????? ????????,??? ?? ???????????.

    ??? ? ???????? ???? ? ???????? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ???????? ??????? ???,???? ???? ??? ?? ?????? ? ?????,?? ???? ??????.

    ???? ??? ?? ??? ???? ????? ??? ?????? ?? ??? apple,????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ????????,????? ??? ?? iphone ?? ????? ???? ??? ????????? ???,????? ??????????????,???? ?? jb ??????.?? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ?? ???????? ??? ??? ???,???? ???? ? ??????? ?????? ??? ??? ???????? ?????????,camera,multitasking,flash,usb,????? ????????????,?? ?????????.????? ????? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ???? ????.

    ??? ??????? ??? ??? military.?? ?????? ??? ?? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ???????? ??????????? ?? ????????????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ????????,???? ??????? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ??????? ??? ??????,????? ???? zoom in zoom out.????? ??? ?? ??????????? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ? ?? ?? ???? ?? ??????? ???.???? ?? ?????.???? ?????? ??? ??????? ???? ??? ??????,????? ? ???????? ??? menu ??? ??? internet????? ???? ???? ?? ?? ???????.

    ?? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ?????????? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ??? ??????????? ??? ?????(google ??? ????),????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ?????.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mania View Post
    Ìéá åñùôçóç ãéá ôïí military.Ôá óêéôóá êáé ôá ó÷åäéá äåí èá çôáí êáëõôåñá ôïõëá÷éóôïí ìå ãñáöéäá?Åéíáé çäç ðïëõ êáëá áõôá ðïõ å÷åéò ðïóôáñåé,áëëá ðéóôåõù ïôé ìå ãñáöéäá èá ãéíïôáí ðéï åõêïëï,÷ùñéò ðïëõ zoom in zoom out.Åéíáé óáí íá æùãñáöéæåéò óôïí êáìâá ìå ðéíåëï ç ìå ôá éäéá ôá äá÷ôõëá óïõ.Åôóé ôï âëåðù.Áëëá ìéëáìå ãéá ãñáöéäá ìïíï óôï ó÷åäéï,ãéáôé ç ðñïóâáóç óôï menu êáé óôï internetåéíáé ðïëõ êáëç ìå ôá äá÷ôõëá.
    Íáé, áëëá äåí ãéíåôáé íá áíôáðïêñéèåé ôï iPhone óå åðáöç áëëç, ðåñá áðï áõôç ôïõ óùìáôïò. Êáðïõ åé÷á äéáâáóåé ðùò áêñéâùò ëåéôïõñãåé, áëëá äåí èõìáìáé...

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    ^^^
    ?? ??? ???? ??????.???? ?? ??? ???????? ?? ????????? ??? ???????????,????? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?? ????? ???????.????? ?????,?????? ??? ????????.
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    ¼óïí áöïñÜ ôá ðåñß ãñáößäáò Þ ÷åéñüò: ãéá íá åßìáé åéëéêñéíÞò ôï íá ó÷åäéÜæù óôï iPhone äß÷ùò ôßðïôå åßíáé ãéá ìÝíá Ýíá üíåéñï.
    Ôï æçôïýìåíï åßíáé íá ðáñåìâÜëëïíôáé ïëïÝíá êáé ëéãüôåñá ðñÜãìáôá áíÜìåóá óå ìÝíá êáé ôçí åðéöÜíåéÜ ìïõ.
    Ãéáôß íá öïâÜìáé ìç ôõ÷üí êáé ÷Üóù ôï stylus áò ðïýìå êáé ìåôÜ íá ìçí ìðïñþ íá äïõëÝøù?
    ¶óå ðïõ åßíáé ôüóï ùñáßá ç áßóèçóç áöÞò ôïõ iPhone, ôüóï Üìåóç ðïõ äåí ôçí áëëÜæù ìå ôßðïôå.
    Ôçí åñ÷üìåíç âäïìÜäá ðáßñíù cintiq (ôï ìåãÜëï) ïðüôå èá óáò ðù êáé ôçí digital art åìðåéñßá ìïõ ìå stylus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mania View Post
    ^^^
    Êé åãþ áõôü íïìßæù.ÁðëÜ èá ôïõ ðñüôåéíá íá ðåñéìÝíåé ôïí áíôáãùíéóìü,ãéáôß üëï êáé êÜôé áêüìá èá äïýìå ðéóôåýù.Ðïéïò îÝñåé,ìðïñåß êáé êáëýôåñï.

    Äåí âéÜæïìáé éäéáéôÝñùò íá óïõ ðù ôçí áëÞèåéá áëëÜ Þäç äõóêïëåýåôáé ï áíôáãùíéóìüò ìå ôçí ðïëý ÷áìçëÞ ôéìÞ ðïõ Ýèåóå ôï iPad.

    ºäùìåí.

    ÐÜíôùò ðÝñáí ôùí ó÷åäéáóôéêþí äõíáôïôÞôùí ðïõ ðñïóöÝñåé ìçí ôï êñßíåôå ùò õðïëïãéóôÞ äéüôé êáé óôçí ðáñïõóßáóç ðïôÝ äåí ÷áñáêôçñßóôçêå ùò ôÝôïéoò
    . "Device" ôï áðïêáëïýóå ï Jobs êáé äéêáßùò.
    Ðñïóùðéêþò üôáí åß÷á áãïñÜóåé netbook ôï Þèåëá êõñßùò ãéá íá ìðáßíù óôï internet áð' ôï åñãáóôÞñéü ìïõ, íá âëÝðù êáíÜ youtube, êáíá âßíôåï êëð.
    Êáé üëá áõôÜ ôá Ýêáíå óê@áô@...
    ¸÷åôå äïêéìÜóåé íá äåßôå YouTube HD óå asus 1000h eee pc...? Ç ðßêñá ç ßäéá.
    Êáé ôï ðëçêôñïëüãéï/mouse interface...?
    Åîáéôßáò áõôþí ôùí ìåôñßùí åðéäüóåùí äåí äõóêïëåýôçêá íá ôï áãíïÞóù ðñïå üöåëïò ôïõ iPhone - ç ýóôáôç îåöôßëá ãéá Ýíáí õðïëïãéóôÞ: íá ôï áíôéêáèéóôÜ Ýíá...ôçëÝöùíï!
    Áõôïý ôïõ åßäïõò ôçí Üìåóç ÷ñÞóç ôïõ iPhone, ôçí åîáéñåôéêÞ áßóèçóç êáôÜ ôçí ðëïÞãçóç óôï äßêôõï óõí ôéò Üðåéñåò åöáñìïãÝò ðïõ Þäç õðÜñ÷ïõí êáé ãéá áõôÝò ðïõ èá äïýìå óôï Üìåóï ìÝëëïí ðéèáíüôáôá èá áîßæåé ôïí êüðï ç áãïñÜ ôïõ iPad (óôçí ÷áìçëüôåñç üìùò ðñïóöåñüìåíç ôéìÞ ôïõ äéüôé óßãïõñá èá âãïõí êáëýôåñåò êáé âåëôéùìÝíåò åêäï÷Ýò ôïõ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryRaiden View Post
    ¸÷åôå äïêéìÜóåé íá äåßôå YouTube HD óå asus 1000h eee pc...? Ç ðßêñá ç ßäéá.

    äåí íïìßæù üôé ôï netbook Ý÷åé ôçí õðïëïãéóôéêÞ äýíáìç ãéá íá ôñÝîåé HD, êáé ïýôå êáé ôï iphone

    ignore list. ÊÜíåé ôçí ðëïÞãçóç óôï forum 1000 öïñÝò êáëýôåñç.


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    Èá óõìöùíçóù ãéá ôï asus...ôï áãïñáóá ëïãù ôùí óõ÷íùí ôáîéäéùí ìå áåñïðëáíï ìå ôçí ðåðïéèçóç ïôé èá ìðïñïõóå íá áíôéêáôáóôçóåé ôï "ìåãáëï" Laptop ùóôå íá ìçí ôï êïõâáëáù óõíå÷åéá ìáæé ìïõ.....ôåëéêá ÁÍÈÑÁÊÅÓ ï èçóáõñïò áêïìá êáé ïôáí ôïõ åâaëá 1gb áêïìá....ôï éäéï êáé ïôáí ôïõ ðåñáóá win7 starter, åëðéæù ïôé ôï ipad èá ôá êáôáöåñåé êáé ðñïóùðéêá èá ôï áãïñáóù óéãïõñá ïïïïïïôáí åñèåé êáé ÅÁÍ åñèåé óôï åëëáäéóôáí........

    Touch, touch in the flame's desires, Feeling the pain's denial, And your fingers in the fire,Look, look in the candle light,See in the flame of life,And my spell is our lie,Taste the love The Lucifer's magic that makes you numb The passion and all the pain are one. You're sleeping in the fire!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaro View Post
    äåí íïìßæù üôé ôï netbook Ý÷åé ôçí õðïëïãéóôéêÞ äýíáìç ãéá íá ôñÝîåé HD, êáé ïýôå êáé ôï iphone
    ËõðÜìáé ðïõ èá óå óôåíá÷ùñÞóù áëëÜ óôï iPhone âëÝðåéò ôá ðÜíôá ìå ôñåëÞ êáèáñüôçôá - åöüóïí âåâáßùò ôï âßíôåï ðñïóöÝñåé ôÝôïéá êáèáñüôçôá.

    Quote Originally Posted by dewarsad View Post
    Èá óõìöùíçóù ãéá ôï asus...ôï áãïñáóá ëïãù ôùí óõ÷íùí ôáîéäéùí ìå áåñïðëáíï ìå ôçí ðåðïéèçóç ïôé èá ìðïñïõóå íá áíôéêáôáóôçóåé ôï "ìåãáëï" Laptop ùóôå íá ìçí ôï êïõâáëáù óõíå÷åéá ìáæé ìïõ.....ôåëéêá ÁÍÈÑÁÊÅÓ ï èçóáõñïò áêïìá êáé ïôáí ôïõ åâaëá 1gb áêïìá....ôï éäéï êáé ïôáí ôïõ ðåñáóá win7 starter, åëðéæù ïôé ôï ipad èá ôá êáôáöåñåé êáé ðñïóùðéêá èá ôï áãïñáóù óéãïõñá ïïïïïïôáí åñèåé êáé ÅÁÍ åñèåé óôï åëëáäéóôáí........

    Ôï üôé èá Ýñèåé åßíáé óßãïõñï áëëÜ ìéáò êáé äåí åßíáé region locked èá ìðïñåßò íá ôï ðÜñåéò êáé áðü åîùôåñéêü äß÷ùò ðñüâëçìá.

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