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    Red face NTSC console + SDTV + EU/PAL PS3 games

    etyxe kai vre8hke sta xeria mou apo Japan ena ps3 pou einai ntsc
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    parakalw postarete kai eseis oti neotero


    2 of the games/demos downloaded from PSN EU is not working on NTSC console hooked to SDTV. The games are Tekken and GTHD. However these titles work great on HDTV setup. I assumed that other demos/titles on PSN EU store are multicoded with PAL and NTSC and HD. In SDTV mode, the console will force-output its native console signal (NTSC), but in HDTV mode, the NTSC/PAL restriction is not an issue anymore. As we know that some PSN contents are affected with this limitation, I wonder if this problem also affect disc-based titles? I know that Sony already stated PS3 games are region-free, but are they region-free for HDTV only or including SDTV as well?


    UPDATE:

    *Certain disc-based PS3 games are affected as well*

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    These are what I believe happened for PS3 (BD games & PSN contents, not movie DVDs & PS1 & PS2 games):
    The contents are either coded in:

    1) NTSC-SD and HD
    2) PAL-SD and HD
    3) NTSC-SD and PAL-SD and HD

    *some contents are NTSC-less/PAL-less but also in SD, and this is not a concern

    Case a:
    NTSC console + HDTV + Multicoded contents (NTSC+PAL+HD coded)
    The console will try to output in HD mode to HDTV = titles worked

    Case b:
    NTSC console + SDTV + Multicoded contents (same as above)
    The console will output NTSC-SD content only = titles worked

    Case c:
    NTSC console + SDTV + PAL-coded contents (PAL-SD and HD)
    The console will refuse to play the PAL-SD content ["This game is not supported. (80028F10)"] or ["You cannot play this game at the current video output setting. (80028F10)"] on new firmware.

    #All of the above are purely based on my observation/conjecture, and I might be wrong. Please correct if you feel there is anything wrong
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    So anyone here can confirm which EU/PAL PS3 disc-based games worked with NTSC consoles in SDTV setup?
    This might save someone that import consoles and play locally-released titles from buying a non-working disc title.
    Gamestores here do not accept opened games for return. I hope this post can collate and compile list of working games on SDTV.

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    PSN EU/UK/PAL CONTENTS:
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    Working (480i/p):
    Assassin's Creed
    Battlefield: Bad Company
    Bioshock - promo
    Burnout Paradise
    Call of Duty 4
    Clive Barker's Jericho
    Condemned 2 - promo
    Dead Space
    Def Jam
    Devil May Cry 4
    F1
    Fallout 3
    FIFA 08
    FIFA 09
    Fight Night 3
    Guitar Hero III
    Guitar Hero: World Tour
    Harry Potter 5
    Ironman - promo
    Kane And Lynch
    Lego Batman
    Lego Indiana Jones
    Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
    Little Big Planet
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
    Midnight Club
    Mirror's Edge
    Motorstorm
    Naruto: Ninja Storm
    NBA Live '08
    Need for Speed Carbon
    Need for Speed: Pro Street
    Ninja Gaiden
    PES 2008
    PES 2009
    Race Driver: GRiD
    Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
    Resistance
    Sega Rally (Sega Rally Revo)
    Skate
    Soul Calibur IV - (AU and UK)
    Singstar Vol1
    Singstar Vol2
    Star Wars: Force Unleashed
    Transformers
    The Darkness
    Top Spin 3
    Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
    Valkyria Chronicles
    Virtua Fighter 5
    Virtua Tennis 3
    Warhawk


    Not Working:
    Army of Two - Works with R:FOM method
    Bladestorm
    Buzz!: Quiz TV (Australian)
    Call of Duty 3
    Dynasty Warriors: Gundam - Works with R:FOM method
    Far Cry 2
    FEAR
    Gran Tourismo 5: Prologue - Works with R:FOM method
    Grand Theft Auto IV
    Heavenly Sword - Works with R:FOM method
    Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
    NBA2K7
    NHL08
    Oblivion
    Saints Row 2
    Spider-Man 3
    Spider-Man: Web of Shadows - promo
    Simpsons
    Siren: Blood Curse
    Tiger Woods 07
    WWE Snackdown Vs Raw 2008


    UK PSN Store:

    Working:
    Bionic Commando: Rearmed
    Calling all Cars
    flOw
    Loco Roco Cocorocho
    Metal Gear Solid 4: Database
    Pixel Junk Eden
    Pixel Junk Monsters
    Super Rub-a-Dub
    Superstardust HD
    Warhawk


    Not Working:
    Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
    Gran Turismo HD 2.0
    Tekken DR



    Resistance Expliot


    1. make sure you dont have any resistance patches installed
    2. load up resistance
    3. get into a level and pause
    4. swap the resistance disc with the non-working game
    5. wait a bit
    6. press the "quit to main menu" or whatever the quit one says
    7. cross fingers
    8. game should load

    However this might have some problem with game saves.


    Last edited by sav; 22-11-2008 at 12:21. Reason: update
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    updated* nomizw to prose3an ligo auto kai olo kai ligotera games exoun provlhma
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    Πολύ χρήσιμο post sav! ++ rep για το update...
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    Παιδιά θέλω να ρωτήσω το εξής...αν πάρω ps3 αμερικάνικο θα μου παίζει τα παιχνίδια μόνο απο αμέρικη ή και τα ευρωπαικά? Και στην αντίστροφη περίπτωση τι γίνετε?

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    τα παιχνιδια θα παιζουν οι ταινιες οχι.

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    Να διαχωρησουμε dvd με blu ray. Τα dvd δεν θα παιζουν, εκτος αν τα κανεις αντιγραφα ασφαλειας και αφαιρεσεις το region code. Στα blu ray δεν θα εχεις προβλημα αφου τα περισσοτερα ειναι region free, εκτος απο την fox που τα βγαζει region lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babis View Post
    ?? ???????????? dvd ?? blu ray. ?? dvd ??? ?? ???????, ????? ?? ?? ?????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?????????? ?? region code. ??? blu ray ??? ?? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ??????????? ????? region free, ????? ??? ??? fox ??? ?? ?????? region lock.
    ??? games-asia ????? ????????? ?? ???????? USA-NTSC ??? USA-Region Free ??? ?????? ???? ????? US? ???? ??????? ??? ?????? ?? USA-Region Free ?? ??????? ??? ????????? ; ??? ??? ?????? ???? ????????? ????? region lock ;

    ????????? ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by magus32 View Post
    Στο games-asia βλεπω παιχνιδια με υποδειξη USA-NTSC και USA-Region Free και καποια αλλα σκετο USΑ αυτο συμενει πως μοναχα τα USA-Region Free θα παιζουν στο Ευρωπαϊκό ; και πως ξερεις ποια παιχνιδια εχουν region lock ;

    Ευχαριστω πολυ
    Όλα τα παιχνίδια θα παίζουν στο ps3 σου...
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    ?????? ???? ??? region lock, ???? ????????? ???? ?????? ? fox ;
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    Last edited by magus32; 12-02-2011 at 18:43.

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    updated * parakalw valte kai eseis oti exete dokimasei

    Nonborn thnxxx man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by magus32 View Post
    Επειδη λενε για region lock, ποια παιχνιδια εχει βγαλει η fox ;
    Η Fox βγάζει ταινείες.

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    Γιατι μπερδευτικες? ΟΛΑ τα ps3 games ειναι region free. Ειτε τα παρεις απο Ελλαδα, ειτε απο Ουγκαντα!

    Οι περισσοτερες bluray ταινιες ειναι region free(πχ Sony,Warner κτλ), εκτος απο τις ταινιες τις Fox, που ειναι ολες region lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babis View Post
    ????? ????????????? ??? ?? ps3 games ????? region free. ???? ?? ?????? ??? ??????, ???? ??? ????????!

    ?? ???????????? bluray ??????? ????? region free(?? Sony,Warner ???), ????? ??? ??? ??????? ??? Fox, ??? ????? ???? region lock.
    OK ???? ???????? ??? ??? ???????? ?? ????? region free ??? ??? ??? sony ???? ???? ???? ??? ????? region free ???? ??
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    auto einai poly xrhsimo
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    επαναφέρω το τόπικ για να κάνω μια ερώτηση. αυτή την στιγμή βρίσκεται ένας φίλος μου αμερική και αγόρασε κονσόλα για έναν άλλο φίλο μου. σε περίπτωση βλάβης τι κάνει? ο καταστηματάρχης από το αμέρικα του είπε ότι καλύπτεται από εγγύηση παντού... εγώ πιστεύω ότι δεν ίσχυει κάτι τέτοιο. επίσης κάπου είχα διαβάσει/ακούσει ότι κάποιου του χάλασε κονσόλα από ιαπωνία και όχι μόνο δεν καλυπτόταν από εγγύηση αλλά δεν του το επισκεύαζαν κιόλας εδώ... ισχύει κάτι τέτοιο?

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    Μια απάντηση κάποιος που να ξέρει?? Παίρνω τηλέφωνο στην Sony Hellas για να ρωτήσω και μου δίνουν ένα άλλο τηλέφωνο με αυτόν που και καλά ασχολείται με ps3. Στο άλλο τηλέφωνο κανείς δεν απαντάει...

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    update Burnout Paradise (PAL) works OK !
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    ta Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 (PAL) kai SingStar (PAL) doulevoun kanonika
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