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    Default State of Play - 9 Éïõëßïõ 2021 (00:00-00:30)



    ÊáëÜ ãéáôß äåí ôï áíÝâáóå êáíåßò;

    Áêïýãåôáé ðïëý ìéêñü.

    We¢ve seen Colt¢s head-spinning powers in action before, but this Thursday we¢ll get a nine-minute look at Deathloop¢s time-twisted world as part of a new State of Play. The show kicks off at 2pm Pacific / 5pm Eastern / 11pm CEST, viewable on Twitch or YouTube.
    In this extended gameplay sequence, we¢ll see Colt use his abilities to stealthily skulk across rooftops… or go in guns blazing to create a whole lot of mayhem. Lots of options available on Blackreef Island.

    In addition to this long look at Bethesda¢s violent adventure, we¢ll have updates on some exciting indie and third-party titles.

    The full show clocks in around 30 minutes.

    This showcase will not include updates on the next God of War, Horizon Forbidden West or the next generation of PlayStation VR. Stay tuned throughout the summer though, as we¢ll have more updates soon.
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    ÊáëÜ ãéáôß äåí ôï áíÝâáóå êáíåßò;
    Ãéáôß ôþñá ôåëåõôáßá Ý÷ïõìå öÜåé ðïëý öüëá áðü ôá state of play


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    Ï Leon åßíáé ï designated poster ãéá ôÝôïéá threads, ôé íá áíåâÜóïõìå åìåßò!

    ÐÝñáí ôçò ðëÜêáò, íïìßæù ôï åß÷á ðïóôÜñåé óôï rumors.

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    Êé áõôü ãéá øéëïöüëá ðÜåé, ìå deathloop êáé êÜðïéá indie.

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    Äåí åéíáé êáôé óçìáíôéêï êáé êáëá êáíïõí êáé ôï îåêáèáñéæïõí ãéá íá åéíáé êáé ïé ðñïóäïêéåò áíáëïãåò.
    Dethloop äåí ìå åíäéáöåñåé êáèïëïõ, ôá indies åéíáé ðéï åíäéáöåñïíôá, ëïãéêá èá å÷ïõìå updates áõôùí ðïõ åé÷áí ðñïìïôáñåé ðåñóé ôõðïõ stray, solar ash êôë


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    Ôï ãåãïíüò üôé ðñïìïôÜñïõí ðáé÷íßäé ôçò åôáéñåßáò ðïõ ðñéí ëßãï êáéñü ôïõò Ýêëáóå ìå ôï xbox exclusivity, îåðåñíÜ ôá üñéá ôçò ëïãéêÞò.

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    Ôï ãåãïíüò üôé ðñïìïôÜñïõí ðáé÷íßäé ôçò åôáéñåßáò ðïõ ðñéí ëßãï êáéñü ôïõò Ýêëáóå ìå ôï xbox exclusivity, îåðåñíÜ ôá üñéá ôçò ëïãéêÞò.
    Ãéáôé îåðåñíá ôá ïñéá ôçò ëïãéêçò?

    Ç Óïíõ åäùóå êáðïéá ÷ñçáìôá ãé áõôï ôï exclusivity. Èåëåé íá äåé ôçí åðåíäõóç ôçò íá ôåëåóöïñåé. Ðñïöáíùò êáé èåëåé íá ðïõëçóåé ôï ðáé÷íéäé ðïëõ êáëá êáé èåëåé íá ôï äéáöçìéóåé óôï ìç÷áíçìá ôçò. Êáé ðáñáëëçëá íá äåéîåé óå Bethesda/MS ôé åóïäá ìðïñåé íá öåñåé ç ðëáôöïñìá ôçò óå ôõ÷ïí åíäå÷ïìåíåò óõíåñãáóéåò/áíáèåùñçóåéò óôï ìåëëïí...

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    Êé áõôü ãéá øéëïöüëá ðÜåé, ìå deathloop êáé êÜðïéá indie.
    Óå áëëá èñåíô äéíåôå ïëïêëçñç ìá÷ç ñå óõ Ëåõôåñç ãéá ôïõò êáêïìïéñçäåò ôïõò indie Devs êáé ôçí êáêéá Sony ðïõ äåí êáíåé ôéðïôá ãé áõôïõò êáé ôùñá ðïõ ëååé ïôé óôï days of play èá å÷åé indie ôï âáöôéæïõìå "øéëïöïëá". Å ðåéôå ìïõ ëïéðïí åóåéò ìåôá ãéá ðïéï ëïãï ç Óïíõ äéíåé ðåñéóóïôåñç ðñïóï÷ç óå blockbusters êáé ëéãïôåñç óå indie...

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    Ôï øéëïöüëá ðÞãáéíå ãéá ôï Deathloop, ü÷é ãéá ôá indie!

    (ðñïóùðéêÜ äåí Ýäùóá êáìßá ìÜ÷ç ãéá ôïõò indie. ÂáóéêÜ, ÷Ýóôçêá ãéá ôïõò indie, ÷ùñßò ðëÜêá. Ôç Óïíõ êáôáêñßíù ãéá ôçí êáêÞ ïñãÜíùóÞ ôçò, ç ïðïßá õößóôáôáé åðß ðïëëÜ ÷ñüíéá / ôá Ý÷ïõìå îáíáðåß Üëëùóôå)

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    åéðáí áí èá äåéîïõí íåá indies Þ áõôá ðïõ áíáìåíåôáé íá êõêëïöïñçóïõí ôï åðïìåíï äéáóôçìá ïðùò ôï kena êáé ôï little devil inside?
    å÷ù ìéá õðïøéá ïôé ãéá ôï 2ï èá áíáêïéíùèåé ðïëõ áìåóï release date áí êáé ðáñáêïëïõèùíôáò gameplay âéíôåï ôï åíäéáöåñïí ìïõ å÷åé ìåôñéáóôåé óå ó÷åóç ìå ôï êáôáðëçêôéêï ôñåéëåñ ðïõ åé÷áí äåéîåé óôï event ôçò sony ðåñóé.

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    Ðáñáôçñþ üôé îåóêéóôÞêáìå íá äïýìå ôï event!

    ÄéáâÜæù ôá íÝá óÞìåñá, ðáßæåé íá Þôáí ôÝñìá áäéÜöïñï.

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    Åãþ ôï åßäá áëëÜ Þôáí åíôåëþò ÷Üëé ìáýñï...

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    Ðáñáôçñþ üôé îåóêéóôÞêáìå íá äïýìå ôï event!

    ÄéáâÜæù ôá íÝá óÞìåñá, ðáßæåé íá Þôáí ôÝñìá áäéÜöïñï.
    Ìá ðñïöáíùò. Áõôï çôáí êáé åìåíá ôï point ìïõ ðéï ðáíù (ôï ïðïéï äåí çôáí óôï÷åõìåíï ðñïò ôïí Ëåõôåñç åéäéêá, áëëá ãåíéêá óôï ôé óõìâáéíåé ôåëåõôáéá)... ãêñéíéá ðïõ ç Sony äéíåé åìöáóç óôá blockbuster êáé äéíåé ðåñéóóïôåñç åëåõèåñéá, åõêáéñéåò, promotion êáé äåí îåñù åãù ôé áëëï óå ìåãáëåò åôáéñåéåò ïðùò ç ND, Insomniac êëð , ãêñéíéá ðïõ ç Sony äåí ðñïóå÷åé ôïõò indie devs êáé ôåëéêá ðïéï åéíáé ôï áðïôåëåóìá ïôáí êáíåé ìéá ðáñïõóéáóç ìå ðåñéóóïôåñï indie ÷áñáêôçñá?

    Íá åéíáé êáôé ðïõ äåí åíäéáöåñåé ó÷åäïí êáíåíá. Áðïëõôùò.

    Ìå áõôç ôçí õðïêñéóéá áêñéâùò å÷ù ðñïâëçìá.

    Óôçí ôåëéêç ç Sony ðïëõ áðëá åðéâåâáéùíåôáé áðï ôïõò éäéïõò áõôïõò ðïõ êáèïíôáé êáé ãêñéíéáæïõí. "Ôé indie êáé ìáëáêéåò? Áìá äåí å÷åé åíá God of War sequel äåí ðñïêåéôáé íá ÷áóåé êáíåíáò ôïí ÷ñïíï ôïõ íá âëåðåé arcade indie ÷áæïìáñïõëåò" (áõôï äåí åéíáé statement åéíáé óáñêáóìïò åîïõ êáé ôá åéóáãùãéêá)...

    Ðéóù ôùñá ïëïé óôá twitter feed íá äùóïõìå ìá÷ç ãéá devs êáé ðáé÷íéäéá ãéá ôá ïðïéá ðïëõ áðëá äåí äéíïõìå äåêáñá... åôóé ãéá íá ëåìå ïôé ôïõò óêåöôçêáìå. Ïôáí åñèåé ïìùò ç ùñá íá ôïõò åðéâñáâåõóïõìå åðé ôçò ïõóéáò èá ðáñïõí áðï ôá ôñéá ôï ìáêñõôåñï ùò óõíçèùò...

    ÕÃ: Íïìéæù åéìáé ðïëëá ÷ñïíéá åäù ìåóá ùóôå íá ãíùñéæåé ï êïóìïò ïôé ìå ôçí êñéôéêç ôá ðáù ðáñá ðïëõ êáëá êáé ãïõóôáñù íá áóêåéôáé. Êáé ðñïöáíùò óõìöùíù ïôé ç Sony åðéäå÷åôáé êñéôéêçò ãéá áñêåôá èåìáôá. Ïìùò èåùñù ïôé ôï ìåôñï ôçò ëïãéêçò ïóïí áöïñá ôçí ãêñéíéá óå áõôï åäù ôï öïñïõì (êáé óå áñêåôá áëëá) å÷åé îåöõãåé ôåëåéùò ôïí ôåëåõôáéï êáéñï. Ìðáéíù åäù ìåóá êáé ôï ìïíï ðïõ âëåðù åéíáé ìéá ìáõñéëá. Ïëá öôáéíå.

    ÏËÁ. ÔÁ ÐÁÍÔÁ.

    O Jim Ryan, ï Hermen Hulst, ôï OS ôïõ PS5, ç ïñãáíùóç ôçò Sony, ôá next gen ðáé÷íéäéá, ôá cross gen ðáé÷íéäéá, ôá exclusives, ôá indie, ôï BC, ôo marketing, ç åðéêïéíùíéá êáé ôï support, ôá ëåöôá, ïé õðçñåóéåò (ïëá áõôá ôá åãñáøá óåñé ÷ùñéò íá óçêùèåé äá÷ôõëï áðï ôïí õðïëïãéóôç, öáíôáóïõ íá óêåöôù êéïëáò)...

    Å êáðïõ... ëåò... áé óé÷ôçñ...

    Áõôï åéðá êé åãù ðñéí ðåñéðïõ äåêá ìåñåò êáé å÷ù êáíåé 2 ðïóô ïëá êáé ïëá. ×ïìðõ åéíáé ôï ñçìáäé. Áí èåëù íá ìðù óå öïñïõì ðïõ ìïíéìùò ãêñéíéáæåé õðáñ÷ïõí ðïëëåò åðéëïãåò.

    Å÷ù êáôáëçîåé ïôé ìáëëïí åéìáé hardcore gamer ìïíï óôï ôïìåá ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïõ ðëåïí êáé óå ïëá ôá áëëá politics êëð åíôåëùò mainstream...

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    Êáé åãþ ôï åßäá ÷ôåò, äåí ìïõ Ýêáíå êÜôé éäéáßôåñï.

    Ôï âáóéêü ìïõ ðñüâëçìá åßíáé üôé ôï 80% áõôþí ðïõ Ýäåéîáí Þôáí ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ Þäç îÝñù áí èÝëù íá ôá ðáßîù Þ ü÷é êáé ìïõ öÜíçêáí ãéá trailers ðïõ ðáëéüôåñá ôá Ýâãáæáí ìüíåò ôïõò ïé åôáéñåßåò ùò ôñßôá Þ ôÝôáñôá trailer ãéá áõôïýò ðïõ åß÷áí Þäç óôï ñáíôÜñ ôïõò ôï ðáé÷íßäé. Äåí ìïõ êÜíåé áßóèçóç íá ôá âëÝðù îáíÜ êáé îáíÜ êáé åéäéêÜ ëßãï ìåôÜ ôçí "E3" ðïõ üëïé ïé õðüëïéðïé (áíåîáéñÝôùò) Ý÷ïõí äåßîåé ðïëý êáëýôåñá êáé öñÝóêá ðñÜãìáôá.





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    Ìá ðñïöáíùò. Áõôï çôáí êáé åìåíá ôï point ìïõ ðéï ðáíù (ôï ïðïéï äåí çôáí óôï÷åõìåíï ðñïò ôïí Ëåõôåñç åéäéêá, áëëá ãåíéêá óôï ôé óõìâáéíåé ôåëåõôáéá)... ãêñéíéá ðïõ ç Sony äéíåé åìöáóç óôá blockbuster êáé äéíåé ðåñéóóïôåñç åëåõèåñéá, åõêáéñéåò, promotion êáé äåí îåñù åãù ôé áëëï óå ìåãáëåò åôáéñåéåò ïðùò ç ND, Insomniac êëð , ãêñéíéá ðïõ ç Sony äåí ðñïóå÷åé ôïõò indie devs êáé ôåëéêá ðïéï åéíáé ôï áðïôåëåóìá ïôáí êáíåé ìéá ðáñïõóéáóç ìå ðåñéóóïôåñï indie ÷áñáêôçñá?

    Íá åéíáé êáôé ðïõ äåí åíäéáöåñåé ó÷åäïí êáíåíá. Áðïëõôùò.

    Ìå áõôç ôçí õðïêñéóéá áêñéâùò å÷ù ðñïâëçìá.

    Óôçí ôåëéêç ç Sony ðïëõ áðëá åðéâåâáéùíåôáé áðï ôïõò éäéïõò áõôïõò ðïõ êáèïíôáé êáé ãêñéíéáæïõí. "Ôé indie êáé ìáëáêéåò? Áìá äåí å÷åé åíá God of War sequel äåí ðñïêåéôáé íá ÷áóåé êáíåíáò ôïí ÷ñïíï ôïõ íá âëåðåé arcade indie ÷áæïìáñïõëåò" (áõôï äåí åéíáé statement åéíáé óáñêáóìïò åîïõ êáé ôá åéóáãùãéêá)...

    Ðéóù ôùñá ïëïé óôá twitter feed íá äùóïõìå ìá÷ç ãéá devs êáé ðáé÷íéäéá ãéá ôá ïðïéá ðïëõ áðëá äåí äéíïõìå äåêáñá... åôóé ãéá íá ëåìå ïôé ôïõò óêåöôçêáìå. Ïôáí åñèåé ïìùò ç ùñá íá ôïõò åðéâñáâåõóïõìå åðé ôçò ïõóéáò èá ðáñïõí áðï ôá ôñéá ôï ìáêñõôåñï ùò óõíçèùò...
    Ï óõëëïãéóìüò "ç Sony Ýäåéîå indies êáé äåí Üñåóå Üñá ï êüóìïò äåí èÝëåé indies" åßíáé ðÝñá ãéá ðÝñá ëÜèïò.

    (êáé ôï "äåí ó÷ïëéÜóôçêå óôï forum" åßíáé ëÜèïò, ãéáôß óôï forum ðïëëÝò öïñÝò äåí ó÷ïëéÜæïíôáé ïýôå ÁÁÁ ðáé÷íßäéá êáé ðáñïõóéÜóåéò)

    Ìðïñåß íá ó' áñÝóïõí ôá indies, áõôü äåí óçìáßíåé üôé ìéá ðáñïõóßáóç ðïõ óïõ äåß÷íåé ôá ßäéá êáé ôá ßäéá indies åßíáé êáëÞ. ÅéäéêÜ üôáí Ý÷åé ðåñÜóåé Ýíáò ìÞíáò (êáé áêüìá Ý÷ïõìå êáéñü) ìå ôïõò indies íá äßíïõí êáíïíéêÜ ñÝóôá. Ôá ðéï åíäéáöÝñïíôá ðáé÷íßäéá ãéá ìÝíá öÝôïò Þôáí ìáêñÜí ôá indies.


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    ¼ëç ç ðáñïõóßáóç ôïõ Summer Game Fest. Ï MVP íïìßæù üôé Þôáí ôï ¡Day of the Devs¢ showcase. Timestamps óôï ðñþôï ó÷üëéï




    ÐÜááñá ðïëý åíäéáöÝñïí ôï ÷ôåóéíü Tribeca Selection



    ¼ðïéïé ðáßæïõí indies ìçí ôï ÷Üóïõí

    ¡Kena¢ And ¡Twelve Minutes¢ Highlight The Tribeca Games Spotlight¢s Artsiest Game Selections
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    ÃåëÜù ìüíïò ìïõ ìå ôï ðüóï DEMENTED åßíáé áõôÞ ç åôáéñåßá êáé ïé ðáñïõóéÜóåéò ôçò!!



    Ùñáßá ðáé÷íßäéá btw, áñêåôÜ öáßíïíôáé äéáìáíôáêéá!
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    Ï óõëëïãéóìüò "ç Sony Ýäåéîå indies êáé äåí Üñåóå Üñá ï êüóìïò äåí èÝëåé indies" åßíáé ðÝñá ãéá ðÝñá ëÜèïò.
    Ï óõëëïãéóìïò óôïí ïðïéï áíáöåñïìáé åéíáé:

    "Ç Sony åäåéîå indies êáé ôï ðïóïóôï ôïõ êïóìïõ ðïõ ôï âñçêå åíäéáöåñïí ùóôå íá êáôóåé íá äåé ôçí ðáñïõóéáóç çôáí áóôåéï, ìðñïóôá óå ìéá ðáñïõóéáóç ðïõ ç Óïíõ èá óïõ ëåãå áðï ðñéí ïôé èá å÷åé "God of War Sequel reveal."

    Êáé åéíáé ðåñá ãéá ðåñá óùóôïò.

    Óå ìéá ôåôïéá ðåñéðôùóç áäéáöïñç îå-áäéáöïñç ðáñïõóéáóç, ï êïóìïò èá îåíõ÷ôïõóå êáé ôï öïñïõì èá çôáí ãåìáôï áðï ðïóô ôñåçëåñ êëð.

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    Ï óõëëïãéóìïò óôïí ïðïéï áíáöåñïìáé åéíáé:

    "Ç Sony åäåéîå indies êáé ôï ðïóïóôï ôïõ êïóìïõ ðïõ ôï âñçêå åíäéáöåñïí ùóôå íá êáôóåé íá äåé ôçí ðáñïõóéáóç çôáí áóôåéï, ìðñïóôá óå ìéá ðáñïõóéáóç ðïõ ç Óïíõ èá óïõ ëåãå áðï ðñéí ïôé èá å÷åé "God of War Sequel reveal."

    Êáé åéíáé ðåñá ãéá ðåñá óùóôïò.

    Óå ìéá ôåôïéá ðåñéðôùóç áäéáöïñç îå-áäéáöïñç ðáñïõóéáóç, ï êïóìïò èá îåíõ÷ôïõóå êáé ôï öïñïõì èá çôáí ãåìáôï áðï ðïóô ôñåçëåñ êëð.
    Áõôü åßíáé êÜôé ðïõ ßó÷õå ðÜíôá ñå óõ, óå üëåò ôéò âéïìç÷áíßåò.

    Íáé, Ýíá áðü ôá ìåãáëýôåñá gaming IPs èá åß÷å ðåñéóóüôåñï engagement áðü ôï ArcadeGeddon.

    Áõôü äåí åßíáé êÜôé êáéíïýñãéï ïýôå êáé íïìßæù üôé åßðå ðïôÝ êáíåßò "êÜíå indie showcase íá ÷áñåß ï ëáüò". Ôá indies Þôáí êáé åßíáé niche, üðùò ôá blockbusters åßíáé ãéá ôçí ìÜæá.

    ÁëëÜ åßóáé market leader ñå ößëå, õðÜñ÷ïõí ðïëëÜ åíäéáöÝñïíôá indies ôá ïðïßá èá ìðïñïýóåò íá äåßîåéò, êÜíå ìéá êáëÞ ðáñïõóßáóç. Ç óõãêåêñéìÝíç ðéóôåýù üôé Þôáí áðïãïçôåõôéêÞ áêüìá êáé ãé áõôïýò ðïõ ðáßæïõí ðåñéóóüôåñá indies áðü ôï ìÝóï üñï.
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    To èåìá åéíáé ïôé ïëá ìáò öôáéíå. Áõôï åéíáé ôï âáóéêï êïììáôé ôïõ ðïóô ìïõ. Ìðïñåé íá îåêéíçóå ìå áöïñìç ôï ðéï ðñïóöáôï ðñáãìá ðïõ ìáò öôáéåé, ïìùò ôï èåìá åéíáé ïôé óå ÏËÁ êõñéïëåêôéêá ôá ìçêç êáé ôá ðëáôç å÷ïõìå êáôé êáêï íá ðïõìå.

    Ðñåðåé éóùò íá ìáò êïëëçóåé åíá DRM êáé åìáò ç Sïny, íá âãáëåé êáé åíá Sonypass, íá óôåéëåé ôçí éäéïêôçóéá óôá ôáñôáñá, íá ìáò åðéôñåøåé íá ðáéæïõìå ôá ðáé÷íéäéá ôïõ PSP óå 8Ê 120 fps HDR, íá öôéáîåé ðïëëá exclusive, íá äéíåé ôá ÁÁÁ exclusives ãéá 30 åõñù (êáé ðïëëá åéíáé), íá åðåíäõóåé óå ðïëëá indie, íá áãïñáóåé ôçí Rockstar, ôçí Activision êáé äåí îåñù ãù ðïéïí áëëï, íá äéíåé ôçí ðñïóï÷ç ðïõ ÷ñåéáæåôáé óôá ðáíôá ÷ùñéò äéáêñéóåéò êáé ðñïôåñáéïôçôåò êáé ðïëëá áëëá.

    Ðïõ èá âñåé ôá ëåöôá ç Sony ãéá ïëá áõôá äåí ìáò åíäéáöåñåé, åéíáé õðï÷ñåùóç ôçò ïìùò íá ìáò ôá äùóåé ïëá ãéáôé åéìáóôå ðåëáôåò êáé åôóé ãïõóôáñïõìå êáé èåëïõìå.

    Áðëá. Áí ôõ÷ïí êáé åñèåé ôï DRM Þ êáé ôï Sonypass, ìéá èåñìç èåñìç ðáñáêëçóç áðï ìåñïõò ìïõ:

    Ìçí ìïõ ðáèåôå êïêïìðëïêï åäù ìåóá óáò ðáñáêáëù ðïëõ óêåöôåéôå ëéãáêé ôçí øõ÷éêç ìïõ õãåéá.

    Áöïõ ç êáëç ç ãáìáôç ç MS, ðïõ öóáéíïìåíéêá óêéæåé óå ïëá ôá ìçêç êáé ôá ðëáôç ôçò óôñáôçãéêçò ôçò êáé äåí õðáñ÷åé êáôé íá ðñïóáøïõìå óôéò ðñáêôéêåò ôçò (åíù ðñéí ìåñéêá ÷ñïíéá êáçêå ôï éíôåñíåô), å áò êáíåé ôá éäéá êáé ç Sony. Ãéáôé ãåíéêá åäù ìåóá ïëï ãéïõðé êáé ãéïõ÷ïõ âëåðù ãéá MS...

    Áëëá ìçí êáé äù åêåé meltdowns åôóé?

    ÕÃ: Ôï ðïô ìïõ åéíáé ãåíéêïõ, óáñêáóôéêïõ êáé ó÷åôéêá "áðçõäçóìåíïõ" ÷áñáêôçñá. Äåí óôï÷åõåé ïõôå áðïêëåéóôéêá ïõôå åéäéêá óå êáðïéïí. Ôï ëåù ùò áõôïíïçôï disclaimer. Áðëá íéùèù ïôé ôåëåõôáéá áíôé ãéá "gaming forum" å÷ïõìå êáôáíôçóåé "gaming politics forum". Êáé ïê ùñáéï, åíçìåñùôéêï êáé áíáãêáéï óå åíá âáèìï. Áëëá åäù ÷áìù êáíïõìå ïëïêëçñá investigations, áíáëõóåéò êáé ðáñáðïíá óå åíáí õðåñìåôñï âáèìï.

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    Áöïõ ç êáëç ç ãáìáôç ç MS, ðïõ öóáéíïìåíéêá óêéæåé óå ïëá ôá ìçêç êáé ôá ðëáôç ôçò óôñáôçãéêçò ôçò êáé äåí õðáñ÷åé êáôé íá ðñïóáøïõìå óôéò ðñáêôéêåò ôçò (åíù ðñéí ìåñéêá ÷ñïíéá êáçêå ôï éíôåñíåô), å áò êáíåé ôá éäéá êáé ç Sony. Ãéáôé ãåíéêá åäù ìåóá ïëï ãéïõðé êáé ãéïõ÷ïõ âëåðù ãéá MS...
    Ðáñïëï ðïõ åéíáé ç ðñùôç öïñá ever ðïõ îåíåñùíù ìå ðïëéôéêç ôçò sony, èåùñù ôñéó÷åéñïôåñç ôçò ðïëéôéêç ôçò MS ãéá ôï gaming, ãéá ôï ÷ïìðé ìïõ áí èåò. Ôï ïôé äåí èá öáíåé ïôé êñáæù ôçí MS åéíáé ãéáôé êáôá êõñéï ëïãï ìïõ åéíáé áäéáöïñá ôá ðñïéïíôá ôçò êáé áõôï å÷åé íá êáíåé êáé ìå ôï ãåãïíïò ïôé äåí èá ìðïñïõóá íá óôçñéîù ìéá ôåôïéá ðïëéôéêç. Ïñéáêá óêåöôïìáé áí èá óôçñéîù ç ï÷é sony. Ðïóï ìáëëïí MS.

    Ðáíôùò åìåíá ìïõ öáíçêå ïê ôï õëéêï ôçò ðáñïõóéáóçò.
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    Íïìßæù ÄçìÞôñç êáôÜ ôçí ôáðåéíÞ ìïõ Üðïøç, åßóáé ëéãÜêé Üäéêïò ãñÜöïíôáò üôé äåí Ý÷ïõìå ñßîåé êáíïíéêüôáôï êáé ìå ôï íüìï ìðéíåëßêé óôç MS óõëëïãéêÜ óáí öüñïõì ãéá ôç óôñáôçãéêÞ êáé ôçí ðïñåßá ðïõ ÷áñÜóóåé.

    Äåí åßìáé êáé ðïëý óõììåôï÷éêüò áëëÜ äéáâÜæù áñêåôÜ êáé ìðïñþ íá ðù üôé ìüíï åäþ ìÝóá äéáâÜæù áðüøåéò ðïõ ôåêìçñéþíïíôáé Üøïãá ìå øáãìÝíá åðé÷åéñÞìáôá.
    Êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ìå Üëëá öüñïõì, ðïõ êÜèå 3 ðüóô êÜíïõí äéáöÞìéóç ôï gamepass êáé ðüóï ãáìÜôç êáé consumer-friendly åßíáé ç MS êáé ðùò èá ìáò óþóåé áðü ôïí üëåèñï ðïõ ïäåýåé ôï gaming.

    Ïê èá âãÜëåé êáé êÜðïéá êáëÜ ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ ëïãéêÜ åêåß èá ðåéò ìðñÜâï (Horizon 5)

    Áðü ôçí Üëëç ç êñéôéêÞ ðïõ áóêïýìå (óõëëïãéêÜ) óôç Óüíõ, ðçãÜæåé áðü ôï ãåãïíüò üôé "öïâüìáóôå" ìçí êáôáëÞîåé íá áêïëïõèÞóåé ôá âÞìáôá ôçò ðáñáðÜíù êõñßáò... Åãþ ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí Ýôóé íéþèù, áëëÜ íïìßæù êáé üëïé ìáò ðÜíù êÜôù óôï ßäéï ìÞêïò êýìáôïò êéíïýìáóôå.

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    Íïìßæù ÄçìÞôñç êáôÜ ôçí ôáðåéíÞ ìïõ Üðïøç, åßóáé ëéãÜêé Üäéêïò ãñÜöïíôáò üôé äåí Ý÷ïõìå ñßîåé êáíïíéêüôáôï êáé ìå ôï íüìï ìðéíåëßêé óôç MS óõëëïãéêÜ óáí öüñïõì ãéá ôç óôñáôçãéêÞ êáé ôçí ðïñåßá ðïõ ÷áñÜóóåé.

    Äåí åßìáé êáé ðïëý óõììåôï÷éêüò áëëÜ äéáâÜæù áñêåôÜ êáé ìðïñþ íá ðù üôé ìüíï åäþ ìÝóá äéáâÜæù áðüøåéò ðïõ ôåêìçñéþíïíôáé Üøïãá ìå øáãìÝíá åðé÷åéñÞìáôá.
    Êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ìå Üëëá öüñïõì, ðïõ êÜèå 3 ðüóô êÜíïõí äéáöÞìéóç ôï gamepass êáé ðüóï ãáìÜôç êáé consumer-friendly åßíáé ç MS êáé ðùò èá ìáò óþóåé áðü ôïí üëåèñï ðïõ ïäåýåé ôï gaming.

    Ïê èá âãÜëåé êáé êÜðïéá êáëÜ ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ ëïãéêÜ åêåß èá ðåéò ìðñÜâï (Horizon 5)

    Áðü ôçí Üëëç ç êñéôéêÞ ðïõ áóêïýìå (óõëëïãéêÜ) óôç Óüíõ, ðçãÜæåé áðü ôï ãåãïíüò üôé "öïâüìáóôå" ìçí êáôáëÞîåé íá áêïëïõèÞóåé ôá âÞìáôá ôçò ðáñáðÜíù êõñßáò... Åãþ ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí Ýôóé íéþèù, áëëÜ íïìßæù êáé üëïé ìáò ðÜíù êÜôù óôï ßäéï ìÞêïò êýìáôïò êéíïýìáóôå.
    Ðñùôá áðï ïëá íá äéåõêñéíçóù ïôé äåí ìéëáù áðïêëåéóôéêá ãéá ôï äéêï ìáò öïñïõì.

    Åé÷á îåêéíçóåé ïìùåò ôçí ðñïçãïõìåíç âäïìáäá íá öôéá÷íù åíá ðïóô ìå quotes ãéá íá äéáðéóôùóù áí ïíôùò åéìáé áäéêïò Þ ï÷é. Êáôåëçîá óôï ïôé ï÷é äåí åéìáé áäéêïò êáé êáëõôåñá íá ìçí êáíù ôéðïôá ðïóô ãéáôé èá õðáñîïõí ðáñåîçãçóåéò ðïõ äåí èåëù ìå ôéðïôá ãéáôé äåí å÷ù ôåôïéï óêïðï.

    Ôá ðáñáðáíù ðïóô ìïõ óáöùò å÷ïõí åíáí Á âáèìï õðåñâïëçò (ôï åéðá áëëùóôå). Áëëá ïôé õðáñ÷åé ðïëõ ìáõñéëá õðáñ÷åé.

    Äåí áìöéóâçôôù ïôé äåí å÷ù íá êáíù ìå ôñïëò. Ðñïöáíåóôáôï áõôï. Êáé öõóéêá å÷åé áóêçèåé êñéôéêç óôçí MS êáé ìáëéóôá ôéò ôåëåõôáéåò öïñåò ðïõ êáôåëçîå íá ãéíåé, ç áñ÷éêç ðçãç åðé ôçò ïõóéáò çìïõí... åãù. Êáé ãéáôé? Ãéáôé ðïëõ áðëá åêáíá ðïóô ðïõ åëåãá "ðáéäéá ôï îå÷áóáìå ôï always online? Ôåëéêá ìáò áñåóåé íá ìáò áíçêïõí ôá ðáé÷íéäéá?". Ïðïõ êáé öõóéêá õðçñîå êáðïéá áíôáðïêñéóç.

    Áëëá óôï åðé ôïõôïõ, ó÷åäïí ïôé íåï ðïóôáñåôáé åäù ìåóá å÷åé íá êáíåé ìå ôï ðïóï áó÷çìá ôá êáíåé ó÷åäïí ïëá ç Sony. Äåí åéìáé ï ìïíïò ðïõ ôï å÷åé ðáñáôçñçóåé áõôï. Åéíáé êáé áëëá ìåëç. Õðáñ÷åé ìéá ó÷åäïí áêáôáðáõóôç ìáõñéëá.

    Êáé áðï ôçí áëëç ðïóï óðïõäáéá åéíáé ï apparently Good Guy MS, ìå ôéò ÷ïíôñåò ôóåðåò, ôéò åîáãïñåò, ðïõ ìáò óêåöôåôáé, ðïõ ìáò áöçíåé íá ðáéîïõìå ôï Halo 1 óå 4Ê 120fps êáé äåí îåñù åãù ôé áëëï.

    Åóõ ôé âëåðåéò íá ãñáöåôáé åêåé åîù áðï sites äçìïóéïãñáöïõò êëð? Êáíå ìéá âïëôá ôóåêáñå áëçèåéá. Ðáíôïõ æçôù êáé ðáíçãõñéá åãù âëåðù ãéá ôçí MS... ôé ùñáéï value for money êáé ôé êáëïé ðïõ åéíáé êáé ôé ùñáéá ðïõ áãïñáæïõí ôá ðáíôá êáé óéãá ìùñå ôï DRM. Oé éäéïé áêñéâùò ðïõ ìåñéêá ÷ñïíéá ðñéí åêáíáí êáêï ÷áìï óå ôåôïéá áêïõóìáôá.

    Äåí âëåðù ó÷åäïí êáíåíá íåï ðïõ íá åéíáé áñíôçéêï ãéá MS. Ç Sony äåí ôï âëåðåé áõôï? Ôï âëåðåé. Ëïãéêï ëïéðïí íá èåùñçóåé ïôé áöïõ áêïìá êáé ïé äéêïé ìïõ ðåëáôåò, ìáëëïí åéíáé ïê ìå êáôé ôåôïéï, å èá ôï êáíù êé åãù (áí ìðïñåé ëåìå ôùñá). Ìáëáêáò åéìáé? Ðáñå åíá DRM ôùñá êáé ìå ãåéá óïõ.

    Ôé èåò? ÁÁÁ exclusives óå Sonypass? Sorry bro, cant do. Äåí åéìáé MS äåí ìïõ ôñå÷ïõí ôá öñáãêá âñï÷ç. Ôé íá êáíù?

    Ãåíéêá äåí âëåðù íá ôçñïõíôáé ëéãáêé ïé éóïññïðéåò. Åéìáé åäù ðïëëá ÷ñïíéá êáé îåñïõí ïëïé ïôé å÷ù áóêçóåé äñõìéôáôç êñéôéêç óôçí Sony. Êáé ïðùò åéðá êáé ðéï ðáíù äåí äéáöùíù ìå ôï íá õðáñ÷åé êñéôéêç êáé óå ðïëëá áðï áõôá ðïõ ãñáöïíôáé áõôåò ôéò ìåñåò óõìöùíù, áñêåé íá ìçí êáôáëçîåé íá åéíáé ôï êáôá êïñïí óôïé÷åéï ôçò êïéíïôçôáò. êáôé ôï ïðïéï ÉÌÏ åãéíå.

    Ëåãïíôáò áõôá, ïõôå óêïðåõù íá öéìùóù êáðïéïí ïõôå ôéðïôá. Óéãá äçëáäç, ðïéïò åéìáé? Ðåéôå åëåõèåñá ïôé èåëåôå, áðëá ó÷ïëéáóá ïôé åãù ðñïóùðéêá óå êáðïéï óçìåéï äåí åé÷á êáììéá äéáèåóç íá ìðù åäù ìåóá ðáñïëï ðïõ çèåëá íá ãñáøù åíôõðùóåéò ãéá ðáé÷íéäéá ðïõ å÷ù ðáéîåé áõôåò ôéò ìåñåò êáé íá ðïóôáñù íåá ðïõ äéáâáóá.

    ÕÃ: Óôçí ôåëéêç åãù áõôï ðïõ îåñù åéíáé ïôé êáíù ãéïõðé ðïõ ìåóá óå 6 ìçíåò å÷ù ðáéîåé 4 êáñáìðéíáôá exclusives ôïõ PS5, next gen ðïõ ïõôå êáí åé÷á êáôé áíáëïãï óôï PS4 launch window êáé ðåñéìåíù áêïìá Horizon êëð êáé ï áëëïò óôï XBOX ðñïò ôï ðáñïí êáíåé ãéïõðé ðïõ... ðáéæåé ôï Halo 1 óôá 120 îåñù ãù FPS êáé 4Ê êáé HDR... äçëáäç... ìéá æõãáñéá ñå ðáéäéá... çìáñôïí.

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