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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefteris_X View Post
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    , !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefteris_X View Post
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    ....... PS5 (, , , + fps).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefteris_X View Post
    ....... PS5 (, , , + fps).

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    Guerilla . what could have been . ,,bells and whistles game design.
    Val trailer, man . trailer ps4, , in game cinematic .
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    , excited reveal!


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    real time PS5 hardware ( ). cinematic . , Guerilla PS5 cross gen. devs "" .

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    , ....... ,

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    ! , . "". Thats it. .

    Horizon 2 thinking outside the box , . , , , Naughty Dog ( ) PS4, . . Guerilla 2017 Sony . GOW ( 2018) .

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    , praise ps4 vanilla. E , ps5, .
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    Default Horizon Forbidden West (2021) [SoP 28/5, 00:00]

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyre View Post

    , thinking outside the box, ? , ? SSD , .
    assets (//) ssd o demo unreal, Ratchet .
    epic , photogrammetry, studios Sony . .
    outside the box design ok open world game , flying mounts .
    Btw Guerilla, , 2 .


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    Guerilla . downgrade :

    2009 - kz2. fps , physics . retro DF . studio ps3. 2011 3 framerate, post processing fps. ps2 ? ( )

    2017 - Horizon. benchmark open world fidelity , ps4. alloy . . ps3.

    , . , next gen guerilla 3-4 , .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikosarg View Post
    Guerilla . downgrade :

    2009 - kz2. fps , physics . retro DF . studio ps3. 2011 3 framerate, post processing fps. ps2 ? ( )

    2017 - Horizon. benchmark open world fidelity , ps4. alloy . . ps3.

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    Shadowfall Horizon.

    PS5, Shadowfall PS4 exclusive. Guerilla Sony. , PS5 PS4, . next gen, PS5 .

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    , ( 1-2 ) PS4 bells n whistles , PS3 .

    7 PS3, PS2 --, 7 PS2 PS1 -- .

    ( ; = HDD PS3 PS4 = ' -- PS4)

    PS5 total re-thinking/mind-reset dev, nuclear explosion 27 PS1 2D--->3D!

    , ( PS5)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefteris_X View Post
    , ( 1-2 ) PS4 bells n whistles , PS3 .

    7 PS3, PS2 --, 7 PS2 PS1 -- .

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    post PS4 design original.

    GDC talk


    This isn't necessarily aimed at HFW specifically but, in more general terms, map/world design is really affected by hardware limitations. An example from HZD would be how the climbing could only be done in specific places where yellow hand/foot holds and white ledges were. This helps with asset streaming because they know exactly where you will climb and can place assets accordingly to block out sections of scenery to reduce pop-in and such. GG mentioned that Meridian was designed the way it was to mask loading.

    GG also mentioned, in a GDC video I believe, that AI pathing and such was limited so robots were leashed to pretty small zones instead of having more dynamic behavior and being able to wander much bigger areas. The 6 priority levels on the PS5 SSD will allow them to do things that aren't possible on PS4 and they have to reconcile those things one way another.

    Games are designed around limitations, so any hard limits on last gen will most likely affect the current gen. A cross gen game's world will have to be designed, on the fundamental level, for the previous gen instead of being able to expand on the behavior of NPCs/enemies. All aspects of a game affect one another so we can't really single things out; if there were flying mounts it would have effects on map size and design, for example. I don't think HFW will be bad by any means, but it certainly won't be the game we would have gotten had it been a PS5 exclusive. I think that's what's disappointing to many people combined with the fact that it'll be years before a possible third game hits the PS5 exclusively.
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