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    Default Video Games ï áèÝáôïò êüóìïò

    ÅãêáéíéÜæù áõôü ôï ôïðéê üðïõ ÷ùñßò öüâï êáé ðÜèïò èá ó÷ïëéÜæïõìå/ðïóôÜñïõìå ôá ôåêôáéíüìåíá ðßóù áðü ôéò êÜìåñåò êáé áõôÜ ðïõ êñßíïõìå ùò óôñáâÜ óôïí ÷þñï ôçò âéïìç÷áíßáò. ¼óïé ðéóôïß ðñïóÝëèåôå.... åîáëëïõ ôï õëéêü ðïõ ðñïóöÝñåé ï ÷ùñïò ôïõ gaming (óôçí óçìåñéíÞ ôïõ ìïñöÞ) åßíáé Üðëåôï.

    Los Pïulos ìåôÜ ôï BFV öéÜóêï. 85% - óôá preorder äåí åßíáé êáé ìéêñü ðñÜãìá. "Êáëü ÷ñõóü ôï diversity" áëëÜ ü÷é êáé íá ìáò ìáìçóåé ôéò ðùëÞóåéò. ÊÜðïéïò Ýðñåðå íá ðëçñþóåé ôç íýöç êáé ôá áöåíôéêÜ ôçò EA Ýêáíáí ôïí ðñþôï áðïêåöáëéóìü ó÷åôéêÜ under the radar.

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    Ôá êáêÜ áãüñéá ôçò Sega Ýêáíáí ðïëý êüóìï triggered. Äåí ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá êÜíù êÜðïéï ó÷üëéï. Áñêåß áõôü: This year has been defined by the #MeToo movement............a worldwide re-examination on sexual misconduct has begun. Unfortunately, it seems Valkyria Chronicles 4 didn¢t get the memo. ÓõìðÝñáóìá: Ëéèïâïëçóôå ôïõò äéêôõáêá þóôå íá ðÜñïõí ôï ìÞíõìá. Ãéá íá åßìáé ôõðéêüò ôï Üñèñï åßíáé ôïõ VG24...... ìå îåðåñíÜ ôï ãåãïíüò üôé áêüìá êáé áñèñïãñÜöïé ãíùóôþí site åßíáé áíßêáíïé íá îå÷ùñßóïõí ôçí ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá ìå êÜôé öáíôáóôéêü ðïóï ìÜëëïí üôáí áõôü Ýñ÷åôáé áðü Éáðùíßá ìåñéÜ. Why so serious?
    https://www.resetera.com/threads/vg2...read-op.70827/

    2-3 ó÷üëéá ðïõ ìïõ Ýêáíáí åíôýðùóç:
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    Óôï Gamefaqs áíôéäñïýí ìå ôçí üëç êáôÜóôáóç. Ðïóï áóôåßï ôï ðñþôï ó÷üëéï.
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...ion-4/77038938

    Ç åðßìá÷ç óêçíÞ. ÌåñéêÜ ÷ñüíéá ðñéí äåí èá Üíïéãå ìýôç. ÁðëÜ äåí èá áó÷ïëåßôù êáíåßò. Óôï ôÝëïò ôïõ âßíôåï ìÜëéóôá ç ãõíáßêá ñß÷íåé ãåñï äõíáìéêü ìðïõêÝôï. Ç åðáíÜóôáóç üìùò ãßíåôáé ÌÏÍÏ ãéá ôï assgrab.

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    ¼ôáí êÜôé ãõñßæåé ìðïýìåñáíãê:
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    ÓÞìåñá (burn in hellfire, ìÜëéóôá)-> https://i.postimg.cc/CKKhLjyj/FDA183...B6_FB273_C.jpg
    Ok êïðåëéÜ Ýãéíåò êáôáíïçôÞ-> https://mobile.twitter.com/soulofkab...40741624164352

    ×ñÞóôçò ôïõ Era æçôÜ ôï êñÝìáóìá 62åê Áìåñéêáíþí. Ç ðïéíÞ ðïõ ôïõ åðéâëÞèçêå Þôáí ìüëéò 1 ìÞíá ban. Ç äå áéôéïëüãçóç ôïõ ban êùìéêïôñáãéêÞ. Åãþ ðïõ ðïóôáñá Ýíá link åíüò áñèñïãñÜöïõ ãéá áõôÜ ðïõ óõìâáßíïõí Ýöáãá permaban trololol.
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    ÅðéìïñöùôéêÞ Ubisoft


    TripleA áôæÝíôá.
    http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/1...mpany-culture/

    ËïõêÝôï ãéáôß Ýôóé!
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    Default Video Games ï áèÝáôïò êüóìïò

    Kotaku,polygon,eurogamer êáé óéá áâáâáâá. Ç Sony ÁìåñéêÞò ìéáò êáé êÜíåé êïõìÜíôï åäþ êáé ÷ñüíéá ðëÝïí äßíåé êáé ôéò ãñáììÝò. ÐÜåé ôñåëÜèçêå ï êüóìïò....ç ninty íá äåß÷íåé âõæéá êáé ç Sony íá ôá êñýâåé ÷á÷á÷á÷á÷

    Sonys ps4 censorship policy forces japanese devs to censor games in japan
    https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/1...n-japan/71032/

    Ps4 vs Switch vs Pc:


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    ÊÜðïéïé ðñÝðåé íá ðáßæïõí ôï ðïõëß ôïõò âáóéóìÝíïé óôçí öáíôáóßá, êÜðïéïé öïõë ðáñôßäá üëá óå ìéêñÞ ïèüíç Þ óå ìåãÜëç (êáé ßóùò ìå ÷åéñüôåñç áðü 1080p áíÜëõóç) êáé êÜðïéïé èá ìðïñïýí íá ôï ðáßæïõí ìå üëá ôá ãñáöéêÜ êáé óå 8Ê.

    Ãéá üëïõò ôïõò ðáé÷ôïðïýëéäåò õðÜñ÷ïõí åðéëïãÝò ëïéðüí.

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    Ðþò ôï gaming ìåôáôñÝðåôáé óå âéïìç÷áíßá ÷åéñáãþãçóçò êáé ôæüãïõ


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    Ïé áðáñ÷Ýò ôçò âéïìç÷áíßáò ôïõ gaming õðÞñîáí, üðùò óõíÞèùò óõìâáßíåé ìå ôéò âéïìç÷áíßåò, âáèéÜ ÷ïìðßóôéêåò. Ôçí äåêáåôßá ôïõ 1980 h Roberta êáé ï Êen Williams , ìéá äéìåëÞò ïìÜäá óõæýãùí, äçìéïýñãçóáí ôçí åôáéñßá Sierra On-Line, Ýíáí ìåëëïýìåíï åìâëçìáôéêü êïëïóóü ôïõ ÷þñïõ, äïõëåýïíôáò óôï ðßóù ìÝñïò ôïõ óðéôéïý ôïõò. Ï ðñþôïò ôïõò ôßôëïò, ôï adventure Mystery House, äéáíåìÞèçêå áðü ôÝóóåñá ìáãáæéÜ software óôçí ðåñéï÷Þ ôïõ Ëïò ¶íôæåëåò êáé áðü ìéá áããåëßá óå ôïðéêÞ åöçìåñßäá. Áõôü âÝâáéá äåí åìðüäéóå ôï Mystery House êáé ôïõò ðïëëïýò (ðïëëïýò) ôßôëïõò ðïõ ôï áêïëïýèçóáí íá ðïõëÞóïõí óáí öñåóêïøçìÝíá øùìÜêéá êáé ôçí Sierra áðü ôï íá ãéãáíôùèåß ïéêïíïìéêÜ. Ï DIY ÷áñáêôÞñáò ôçò áíÜðôõîçò games èá ðÝèáéíå ðñéí êáëÜ-êáëÜ ãåííçèåß: ìïéñáßá, óå óõíôïíéóìü ìå ôï áíáðôõóóüìåíï êáðéôáëéóôéêü ðåñéâÜëëïí, Ýãéíå ãåãïíüò ç ðëÞñçò âéïìç÷áíïðïßçóç ôïõ êëÜäïõ. Ìå êÜðïéá óêáìðáíåâÜóìáôá, ìÝ÷ñé ôï 1993 ï ôæßñïò ôùí âéíôåïðáé÷íéäéþí åß÷å áíÝëèåé óôá 19,8 äéóåêáôïììýñéá äïëÜñéá åôçóßùò (ðåñßðïõ 34,6 óçìåñéíÜ) êáé ïé ïéêéáêÝò óõóêåõÝò åõñåßáò ÷ñÞóçò Þôáí Þäç (NES – 1986) Þ èá ãßíïíôáí ðïëý óýíôïìá (PlayStation – 1995) ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá.
    Ðáñ¢ üëá áõôÜ, êáíÝíá Üëìá óôçí äçìïôéêüôçôá ôùí âéíôåïðáé÷íéäéþí äåí ìðïñåß íá óõãêñéèåß ìå áõôü ðïõ óõíÝâç ãýñù óôï 2010. Êáôáëýôåò åäþ õðÞñîáí áöåíüò ç åõñåßá äéÜäïóç ôùí smartphones ó÷åäüí ðáíôïý óôïí êüóìï (äåí ÷ñåéáæüóïõí ðëÝïí êÜðïéá îå÷ùñéóôÞ, áêñéâÞ, âáñéÜ óõóêåõÞ ãéá íá ðáßîåéò) êáé áöåôÝñïõ ç ìåñéêÞ áëëáãÞ ôçò èåìáôïëïãßáò ôùí ßäéùí ôùí ðáé÷íéäéþí. Áíáäõüìåíïé ôéôÜíåò üðùò ç King êáé ç Zynga áíÝðôõîáí ôßôëïõò ðïõ ìåôáêéíÞèçêáí áðü ôçí êëáóéêÞ, åöçâéêÞ-áãïñßóôéêç èåìáôïëïãßá ôçò âßáò, ôçò ôá÷ýôçôáò, ôïõ sci-fi/sword-and-bow fantasy. Ïé óåéñÝò Ville (FarmVille, CityVille) êáé Saga (Candy Crash Saga, Bubble Witch Saga) ðñïóÝöåñáí äéÜöïñïõò åîïìïéùôÝò äéá÷åßñéóçò êáé ðáæë ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ Þôáí åðéëïãÝò ðéï ðñïóâÜóéìåò óôï åõñý êïéíü.ÊáôÜ ôç ãíþìç ìïõ, ç íÝá ðñïóâáóéìüôçôá êáé ç ðéï öéëéêÞ èåìáôïëïãßá óÞìáíáí åðßóçò êáé ôçí êïéíùíéêÞ íïìéìïðïßçóç ôïõ áíèñùðüôõðïõ ôïõ gamer (áí êáé ìÜëëïí ðëÝïí ùò ìç-gamer). Ôï íá áðïóýñåóáé óå Ýíá óêïôåéíü äùìÜôéï (áêüìá êáé ìå ðáñÝá) êáé íá áöéåñþíåéò ðïëëÝò þñåò ðáßæïíôáò õðÞñîå åðß ìáêñüí ìéá Ýíï÷ç, êáé åíßïôå êñõöÞ êáé êáôáêñéôÝá ùò áíôéêïéíùíéêÞ, åõ÷áñßóôçóç áãïñéþí áðü óõãêåêñéìÝíåò õðïêïõëôïýñåò. Áíôßèåôá, ðëÝïí ó÷åäüí êáíåßò äåí óêÝöôåôáé êÜôé õðïôéìçôéêü ãéá êÜðïéïí ðïõ ðáßæåé Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé óôï êéíçôü ôïõ ìÝóá óôï ëåùöïñåßï. Äåí åßíáé ¡gamer¢ ìå ôïí ôñüðï ðïõ åßíáé Ýíáò ìåôÝöçâïò ìå äýï êïíóüëåò óôï óáëüíé ôïõ· äåí åßíáé «ìéêñïìÝãáëï» (óõíÞèçò ìåôáãñáöÞ ôïõ üñïõ «êáðéôáëéóôéêÜ áíôéðáñáãùãéêüò» óôçí êáèïìéëïõìÝíç)· äåí Ý÷åé áöéåñþóåé þñåò åðß ùñþí óôï ÷üìðé ôïõ: åßíáé Ýíáò ôýðïò, ìéá ôýðéóóá, Þ ïðïéïóäÞðïôå Üëëïò ðïõ «÷áæåýåé ëßãï ãéá íá áäåéÜóåé ôï ìõáëü ôïõ» þóôå íá åðéóôñÝöåé öñåóêáñéóìÝíïò óôçí ðáñáãùãÞ. Áêüìá êáé áí ï ÷ñüíïò ðïõ óðáôáëïýí ïé Üíèñùðïé óôï mobile gaming åßíáé ðåñßðïõ ôåôñáðëÜóéïò, ðëÝïí, áðü áõôüí ðïõ óðáôáëïýí ìðñïóôÜ óôéò êïíóüëåò áõôü äåí ãßíåôáé ïñáôü ãéáôß ï ÷ñüíïò áõôüò ðáñáìÝíåé óðáóìÝíïò êáé ìðëåãìÝíïò ìÝóá óå Üëëåò, «åíÞëéêåò» äñáóôçñéüôçôåò óôéò ïðïßåò åðéäßäåôáé êáíåßò ìå ôï êéíçôü.
    Ãéá üëïõò áõôïýò ôïõò ëüãïõò, ëïéðüí, ôo ðáßæåéí óôï êéíçôü Ý÷åé ìå ðïëëïýò ôñüðïõò îåðåñÜóåé ôï ðáßæåéí óôéò ìåãÜëåò ïèüíåò åíþ ðëÝïí ðáßæïõí ó÷åäüí ïé ðÜíôåò. Áõôü ôï êáôÜëáâáí âÝâáéá ðñþôïé ïé åðåíäõôéêïß ãßãáíôåò ôïõ êëÜäïõ, ïé ïðïßïé óôñÜöçêáí åêåß ãéá ôá ìåëëïíôéêÜ ôïõò õðåñêÝñäç. Êõñßùò üìùò åß÷áí ðëÝïí óôçí äéÜèåóÞ ôïõò áëëÜ êáé áíÝðôõîáí åê íÝïõ Ýíá áíáâáèìéóìÝíï, ãíùóéáêü-óõìðåñéöïñéêü ïðëïóôÜóéï ðñïóÝëêõóçò ôïõ êïéíïý óôá ðñïúüíôá ôïõò. Éó÷õñßæïìáé åäþ üôé áõôÞ óõíéóôÜ êáé ôç ìåãáëýôåñç êáé ðéï áíçóõ÷çôéêÞ ôïìÞ óôçí éóôïñßá ôçò ó÷Ýóçò êïéíïý êáé gaming êáé üôé, ðïëý óçìáíôéêüôåñá, áõôÞ ç ôïìÞ åðåêôåßíåôáé óå ðÜíù-êÜôù üëåò ôéò øçöéáêÝò ðëáôöüñìåò ìå ôéò ïðïßåò äéóåêáôïììýñéá êüóìïõ Ý÷ïõí êáèçìåñéíÜ ðïëýùñç åðáöÞ, äçìéïõñãþíôáò Ýùò êáé íÝïõò áíèñùðüôõðïõò.Ãéá ôï ìåãáëýôåñï ìÝñïò ôçò éóôïñßáò ôïõ gaming ç åìðïñéêÞ ëïãéêÞ Þôáí ó÷åôéêÜ áðëÞ: Ýðñåðå íá öôéÜîåéò Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé ôï ïðïßï ï êüóìïò èá Þèåëå íá áãïñÜóåé. Ôï áíôßôéìï êáôáâáëëüôáí ìßá öïñÜ êáé ç äïóïëçøßá ôïõ ðáßêôç ìå ôçí åôáéñßá ôåëåßùíå åêåß â€“ ôï óçìáíôéêü Þôáí íá äéáâåß ï êáôáíáëùôÞò áõôü ôï êáôþöëé. Áõôü ðïõ ðïëý êñßóéìá áëëÜæåé óôç óôñïöÞ ôçò ôñÝ÷ïõóáò äåêáåôßáò åßíáé ôï üôé ïé åôáéñßåò áíÜðôõîçò áíôéëáìâÜíïíôáé ðùò Ýíá äéáöïñåôéêü åðé÷åéñçìáôéêü ìïíôÝëï èá åßíáé ðïëý ðéï ðñïóïäïöüñï: ôï íá äßíïõí áñ÷éêÜ ôï ðáé÷íßäé ôæÜìðá (F2P – free to play) êáé íá áöÞíïõí óôçí åõ÷Ýñåéá ôïõ ðáßêôç ôï áí èá ðëçñþóåé êÜðïéï ðïóü óôç óõíÝ÷åéá, óõíÞèùò ãéá íá áãïñÜóåé âïçèÞìáôá óå êÜðïéá äýóêïëç ðßóôá, ðåñéóóüôåñåò æùÝò, êÜðïéá óðÜíéá êÜñôá Þ êÜðïéï óõëëåêôéêü øçöéáêü áíôéêåßìåíï.
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    Áí Ý÷åôå ðáßîåé ðáé÷íßäéá ìå in-game áãïñÝò èá Ý÷åôå ðáñáôçñÞóåé ðùò ïé áãïñÝò áõôÝò ðñáãìáôïðïéïýíôáé ðïëý óõ÷íÜ ìÝóù êÜðïéïõ «åíäéÜìåóïõ» íïìßóìáôïò. ×ñçóéìïðïéþíôáò Ýíá óõìâáôéêü íüìéóìá (ð.÷. åõñþ) áãïñÜæåé êáíåßò ðñþôá øçöéáêÜ äéáìÜíôéá, ÷ñõóü, êïóìÞìáôá, ôá ïðïßá óôç óõíÝ÷åéá îïäåýåé ìÝóá óôï ðáé÷íßäé ãéá íá áãïñÜóåé üðëá, ðáíïðëßåò, ìðÜëåò, power-ups ê.ëð. Óêïðüò áõôÞò ôçò ôå÷íéêÞò åßíáé íá áðïêñýøåé áðü ôïí ðáßêôç ôï ðüóá áêñéâþò ÷ñÞìáôá äáðáíÜ óôï ðáé÷íßäé áöïý ç ðëçñïöïñßá ôçò áðþëåéáò ÷ñçìÜôùí óéãÜ-óéãÜ óâÞíåôáé áðü ôïí åãêÝöáëï (áíôß ãéá Ýíáí ìåôñçôÞ åõñþ ðïõ êáôåâáßíåé õðÜñ÷åé Ýíáò ìåôñçôÞò äéáìáíôéþí ðïõ áíåâáßíåé) – ç ßäéá áñ÷Þ ðïõ êÜíåé ôïõò áíèñþðïõò íá îïäåýïõí ðåñéóóüôåñï üôáí ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýí ðéóôùôéêÝò êÜñôåò áíôß ãéá ìåôñçôÜ. ÌÜëéóôá, ôá åíäéÜìåóá íïìßóìáôá ðïëëáðëáóéÜæïõí ôï áðïôÝëåóìá ðïõ Ý÷åé ç:
    1. Äçìéïõñãßá áðåéëÞò ôç óôéãìÞ ôçò áãïñÜò

    Ï Üíèñùðïò, ìáèáßíïõìå áðü ôéò íåõñïåðéóôÞìåò, äéáèÝôåé äýï îå÷ùñéóôÜ íåõñéêÜ õðïóõóôÞìáôá ôá ïðïßá åðçñåÜæïõí ñéæéêÜ ôéò ìç óõíåéäçôÝò ôïõ áðïöÜóåéò: ôï óõìðáèçôéêü (SNS – ãíùóôü êáé ùò ¡fight or flight¢ system) êáé ôï ðáñáóõìðáèçôéêü (PNS) íåõñéêü óýóôçìá. Ôï SNS åíåñãïðïéåßôáé óå äéÜöïñåò Ýíôïíåò ðåñéóôÜóåéò áëëÜ êõñßùò åí ìÝóù êéíäýíïõ êáé ðñïóáíáôïëßæåé ôçí êáôáíÜëùóç ðüñùí óôï åäþ êáé óôï ôþñá (åî ïõ êáé ç öñÜóç «Ýôñåîå óáí íá áðåéëïýíôáí ç æùÞ ôïõ»). Ôáõôü÷ñïíá, ç åíåñãïðïßçóç ôïõ SNS êáôáóôÝëëåé ôï PNS, ôï ïðïßï ó÷åôßæåôáé ìå ðéï ìáêñïðñüèåóìïõò ó÷åäéáóìïýò. H âéïìç÷áíßá ôùí in-game áãïñþí óôï÷åýåé áêñéâþò óôï íá åíåñãïðïéÞóåé ôï SNS êáé íá ðñïóöÝñåé åðéëïãÝò «äéÜóùóçò» ôç óôéãìÞ ðïõ êáíåßò Ý÷åé ôçí áßóèçóç üôé êéíäõíåýåé.
    Ï Roger Dickey ôçò Zynga ðåñéãñÜöåé óôï âßíôåï óôï ïðïßï ðáñÝðåìøá ðáñáðÜíù ôï ðþò: áöÞíïõìå áñ÷éêÜ ôïí ÷ñÞóôç íá ðåñÜóåé ìåñéêÝò ó÷åôéêÜ äýóêïëåò ðßóôåò áðü ôéò ïðïßåò êåñäßæåé ðïëýôéìá äþñá. Óôç óõíÝ÷åéá ôïðïèåôïýìå ìßá ó÷åäüí áêáôüñèùôç ðßóôá, ôçí ïðïßá ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá ðåñÜóåé ðñïêåéìÝíïõ íá ìçí ÷Üóåé üëç ôçí ðñïçãïýìåíç ðñüïäü ôïõ. ¼ôáí ôåëéêÜ ï ðáßêôçò ÷Üóåé ôïõ ðñïóöÝñïõìå Ýíá âïÞèçìá ìå ôï ïðïßï èá ôá êáôáöÝñåé ôåëéêÜ óå ìéêñüôåñç ôéìÞ áðü ôçí «êáíïíéêÞ». «ÊáíïíéêÞ» ôéìÞ ìå ôçí ðáñáäïóéáêÞ Ýííïéá ôçò áîßáò öõóéêÜ äåí õðÜñ÷åé áöïý ôï áãáèü åßíáé ðëÞñùò øçöéáêü êáé ðáñáãüìåíï êáôÜ âïýëçóç – Ýôóé ç «ðñïóöïñÜ» åßíáé óôçí ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá áêüìá Ýíá ôñéê áýîçóçò ôçò êáôáíáëùôéêÞò äáðÜíçò. Ç ôå÷íéêÞ áõôÞ (¡reward withdrawal¢ – «áêýñùóç áíôáìïéâÞò») ðïíôÜñåé óôïí «ðüíï» êáé óôïí ðáíéêü ôïõ ðáßêôç (åíåñãïðïßçóç SNS), ï ïðïßïò íéþèåé ðùò èá Ý÷åé ÷Üóåé êÜðïéåò þñåò áðü ôçí æùÞ ôïõ ãéá ôï ôßðïôá áí äåí ðëçñþóåé, ãéá íá ôïí êÜíåé íá îïäÝøåé.
    1. Entrapment by investment (ðáãßäåõóç ìÝóù åðÝíäõóçò)

    ÐáñáìÝíïíôáò óôçí ßäéá óõ÷íüôçôá, ç åðüìåíç ìÝèïäïò ÷åéñáãþãçóçò ôçò äáðÜíçò åßíáé ç ìåôáôñïðÞ åíüò ðáé÷íéäéïý éêáíüôçôáò óå ðáé÷íßäé åîáãïñáóìïý (P2W – pay to win). Öáíôáóôåßôå üôé áñ÷ßæåôå íá ðáßæåôå Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé óôï ïðïßï åßíáé åìöáíÝò áðü ôçí ðñþôç êéüëáò ðßóôá üôé ðñÝðåé íá ðëçñþóåéò ãéá íá ðñï÷ùñÞóåéò ðáñáêÜôù. Ðñïöáíþò, ïé ðåñéóóüôåñïé áðü åìÜò èá óôáìáôÞóïõí íá ðáßæïõí Üìåóá. ¼ìùò, áí ãéá êÜðïéï ÷ñïíéêü äéÜóôçìá Ý÷ïõìå ôçí åíôýðùóç üôé ðñï÷ùñÜìå âÜóåé ôùí éêáíïôÞôùí ìáò êáé óôç óõíÝ÷åéá óêïíôÜøïõìå óå Ýíá óçìåßï óôï ïðïßï äåí ôá êáôáöÝñíïõìå, èá õðïèÝóïõìå üôé áðëÜ ðñÝðåé íá ðñïóðáèÞóïõìå ðåñéóóüôåñï. Áöïý áðïôý÷ïõìå îáíÜ êáé îáíÜ (áöïý ôï óõãêåêñéìÝíï óçìåßï åßíáé ó÷åäéáóìÝíï ãéá íá Ý÷åé áêñéâþò áõôÞ ôç ëåéôïõñãßá) äåí èá ðåôÜîïõìå áðëÜ ôïí êüðï ìáò óôá óêïõðßäéá – èá äþóïõìå Ýíá êáôéôßò ðáñáðÜíù ãéá íá ðÜìå ðáñáêÜôù. Ôï ðåñéâüçôï «ðïôÜìé» óôï ðñþôï Candy Crush Saga áðïôåëåß ìéá ôÝôïéá ðåñßðôùóç óçìåßùí ôá ïðïßá «ìáñêÜñïõí» åðßóçò ôïõò ÷ñÞóôåò ðïõ ðëçñþíïõí ùò ¡spenders¢. Áí ìáñêáñéóôåßò ùò spender, ôï ðáé÷íßäé ðñïóáñìüæåôáé êáé áñ÷ßæåé íá æçôÜåé ïëïÝíá êáé ìåãáëýôåñá ðïóÜ ìå áíôáìïéâÞ ôçí âåëôßùóç ôçò èÝóçò óïõ.
    1. «Óåíôïýêéá ìå ëÜöõñá» (¡loot boxes¢)

    ÔÝëïò, Ý÷ïõìå ôçí ßóùò ðéï ìï÷èçñÞ ôå÷íéêÞ áðüóðáóçò õðåñêåñäþí áð¢ üëåò – ôá äéáâüçôá loot boxes. ¸íá loot box åßíáé Ýíá øçöéáêü êïõôß ðïõ áãïñÜæåé êáíåßò ìå Ýíá ïñéóìÝíï áíôßôéìï, ôá ðåñéå÷üìåíá ôïõ ïðïßïõ äåí ãíùñßæåé áðü ðñéí. Ìðïñåß íá Ý÷åé ìÝóá ðÜñá ðïëëÜ íïìßóìáôá Þ êáé ëßãá, Ýíá ôñïìåñü üðëï Þ ôßðïôá, êáé ìÜëéóôá óõ÷íÜ ç õøçëÞ ëåßá ðáñïõóéÜæåôáé ùò éóïðßèáíï åíäå÷üìåíï ìå ôçí ÷áìçëÞ åíþ óôçí ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá äåí åßíáé (æÞôçìá ðïõ Ý÷åé îåóçêþóåé áíôéäñÜóåéò áêüìá êáé áðü ðáñáäïóéáêïýò óõíåñãÜôåò ôùí åôáéñéþí áíÜðôõîçò ðáé÷íéäéþí üðùò ç Apple).Ôï æÞôçìá åäþ ðáñáðÝìðåé áðåõèåßáò óôçí – åßíáé ç (1, 2) – âáóéêÞ áñ÷Þ ôïõ ôæüãïõ: äßíù ÷ñÞìáôá êáé åëðßæù íá êåñäßóù ðëïýóéá äþñá åíþ ôáõôü÷ñïíá åîéôÜñïìáé áðü ôï óõíáßóèçìá ôïõ ñßóêïõ. Ìå äýï ðÜñá ðïëý óçìáíôéêÝò äéáöïñÝò: ðñþôïí, üôé ï ôæüãïò óõìâáßíåé óõíÞèùò óå åëåã÷üìåíá ðåñéâÜëëïíôá ìå åíÞëéêåò åíþ ôá loot boxes åßíáé äéáèÝóéìá óå ðáéäéÜ êÜèå çëéêßáò ìÝóá áðü ôá ðáé÷íßäéá. Äåýôåñïí, üôé ôá loot boxes ìðïñïýí íá åêìåôáëëåõôïýí üëïõò ôïõò ìç÷áíéóìïýò ðïõ åßäáìå ðáñáðÜíù. ¸÷åéò 99.800 êáé óïõ ëåßðïõí ìüëéò 200 íïìßóìáôá ãéá íá ðÜñåéò ôï õðåñ-üðëï ðïõ åßíáé äéáèÝóéìï ãéá ôá åðüìåíá ðÝíôå ëåðôÜ; ºóùò ôüôå íá èåò íá áãïñÜóåéò ôï loot box ðïõ äßíåé áðü 170 ìÝ÷ñé 300 íïìßóìáôá. Èá Þôáí êñßìá üìùò áí Ýíáò åãêÝöáëïò ðïõ Ý÷åé üëåò ôéò ðëçñïöïñßåò ôçò êáôÜóôáóÞò óïõ (ôï ðáé÷íßäé) áðïöÜóéæå íá óïõ äþóåé ôï loot box ôùí 190 íïìéóìÜôùí, ãíùñßæïíôáò üôé öõóéêÜ êáé èá ðëçñþóåéò ãéá íá áãïñÜóåéò áêüìá Ýíá loot box ãéá íá áðïêôÞóåéò ôï üðëï – you are in too deep. Áîßæåé íá óçìåéþóïõìå åäþ üôé ç ôáêôéêÞ áõôÞ èåùñåßôáé ôüóï åðéêßíäõíç ðïõ Ý÷åé Þäç âÜëåé ôá loot boxes óôï óôü÷áóôñï ôùí Åõñùðáßùí íïìïèåôþí êáé ü÷é ìüíïåíþ áõôÜ åßíáé Þäç ðáñÜíïìá óôï ÂÝëãéï êáé óôçí Ïëëáíäßá.
    ÖõóéêÜ, ç üëç áõôÞ äéáäéêáóßá äåí èá ìðïñïýóå íá ìçí Ý÷åé áíôßêôõðï êáé óôá ßäéá ôá ðáé÷íßäéá. Åöüóïí ïé åôáéñßåò áíÜðôõîçò áðïæçôïýí ðëÝïí êõñßùò íá åêìåôáëëåõôïýí äõï-ôñåéò âáóéêÝò áñ÷Ýò åèéóìïý êáé ÷åéñáãþãçóçò, ðïëý óõ÷íÜ ôá äåêÜäåò ÷éëéÜäåò ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ êõêëïöïñïýí åßíáé ðëÝïí ðáñáëëáãÝò óôï ßäéï ìïôßâï: ôï gameplay áðïôåëåß ìüíï ìéá åðßöáóç åíþ ôá ãñáöéêÜ áðëþò íôýíïõí ôïí ßäéï ìç÷áíéóìü ìå ôï åêÜóôïôå äçìïöéëÝò theme áðü ôïí êéíçìáôïãñÜöï, ôç ìïõóéêÞ, ôïí áèëçôéóìü. ¼÷é üôé ç âéïìç÷áíßá ôïõ gaming, üðùò êÜèå âéïìç÷áíßá, äåí Þôáí áðü ðÜíôá êáé äåí èá åßíáé ãéá ðÜíôá ðñïóçëùìÝíç óôçí áðüóðáóç êåñäþí – áõôü ïñßæåé ï êáðéôáëéóìüò êáé èá ôï ïñßæåé ìÝ÷ñé ôçí áíáôñïðÞ ôïõ. Ïé ìïñöÝò üìùò æùÞò êáé åêìåôÜëëåõóçò ðïõ äçìéïõñãïýíôáé åíôüò ôïõ áîßæïõí êñéôéêÞò áíÜëõóçò, áí ü÷é ãéá íá äéáöýãïõìå ôçò ìïßñáò ìáò ôüôå ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí ãéá íá ôçí êáôáëÜâïõìå.Êëåßíïíôáò, èá Þèåëá íá åðáíÝëèù óå Ýíá æÞôçìá óôï ïðïßï áíáöÝñèçêá áêñïèéãþò óôçí áñ÷Þ áõôïý ôïõ Üñèñïõ: óôï üôé ïé ôå÷íéêÝò áõôÝò äåí ðåñéïñßæïíôáé óôï gaming áëëÜ åíõðÜñ÷ïõí êáé óå Üëëåò âéïìç÷áíßåò üðùò áõôÞ ôçò åíçìÝñùóçò êáé ôùí social media. ¼ðùò ãñÜöåé óå Ýíá åîáéñåôéêü ìå üëç ôç óçìáóßá ôçò ëÝîçò êáé åðßóçò ôñïìáêôéêü ìå üëç ôç óçìáóßá ôçò ëÝîçò Üñèñï ôïõ óôçí åöçìåñßäá Guardian ï äçìïóéïãñÜöïò Paul Lewis, ïé íÝåò øçöéáêÝò ðëáôöüñìåò ÷åéñáãùãïýí ôüóï ìáåóôñéêÜ ôçí áíèñþðéíç ðñïóï÷Þ ðïõ áêüìá êáé ïé ßäéïé ïé ó÷åäéáóôÝò ôïõò, ðïõ ãíùñßæïõí ôï ðþò áõôÝò ëåéôïõñãïýí üóï êáíåßò, ðñïóëáìâÜíïõí ðñïóùðéêü ôïõ ïðïßïõ áðïêëåéóôéêÞ áñìïäéüôçôá åßíáé íá áðïôñÝðåé ôïõò ßäéïõò áðü ôï íá ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýí ôéò åöåõñÝóåéò ôïõò. Áí áõôü äåí ìáò âÜæåé óå óêÝøåéò, ôüôå ßóùò ôßðïôá äåí ìðïñåß.

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    ÁðëÞ ç ëýóç, ìÝóù ðáëéÜò óõíôáãÞò ðïõ äåí åíåñãïðïéïýóå êáèüëïõ ôï SNS (áðü ðáëéÝò ìåëÝôåò):

    ÐÅÉÑÁÔÅÕÌÅÍÁ ôá ðáé÷íßäéá.

    Åßíáé ãíùóôü üôé ç ÅÅ åß÷å æçôÞóåé áðü åõõðüëçðôï ÐáíåðéóôÞìéï íá êÜíåé åðßóçìç Ýñåõíá ãéá ôï ðüóï åðçñåÜæåé áñíçôéêÜ ôéò ðùëÞóåéò (êáé áíôßóôïé÷á ôçí ïéêïíïìéêÞ âéùóéìüôçôá) ôùí dev êáé ôùí publishers ç ðåéñáôåßá.
    Ôá áðïôåëÝóìáôá âãÞêáí êáé áíÝäåéîáí áõôü ðïõ ïé (ðïëý) "ðáëéïß" ãíùñßæáìå ðïëý êáëÜ: ü÷é ìüíï äåí åðçñåÜæïõí áñíçôéêÜ, áëëÜ áíôéèÝôùò óõìâÜëëïõí èåôéêüôáôá!

    ÂÝâáéá, ìüëéò åßäáí ôá óõìðåñÜóìáôá ôçò Ýñåõíáò/ìåëÝôçò........ôá "êïõìÜóéá" ôçò ÅÅ...Ýèáøáí êáíïíéêÜ ôá ðÜíôá êáé óöõñßæïõí áäéÜöïñá...

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    Óýìöùíá ìå öÞìåò ôï Black Ops 4 èá ðÜñåé ôï âñáâåßï Best Microtransactions óôá Game Awards.

    Ôï êáíÜëé âÝâáéá åðáíÞëèå ìå age restriction áëëÜ ïé ðñïèÝóåéò êáé ïé êáôåõèýíóåéò ðïõ ðëÝïí äßíïíôáé åßíáé îåêÜèáñåò:





    Êáé åðßóçìá ôï Áìåñéêáíéêü office of censorship ôçò Sony.
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    Ðïõ ðÞãáí ïé åðï÷Ýò ôïõ Samantha Fox Strip Poker, Hollywood Strip Poker êáé Leisure Suit Larry 1-2-3;

    Óôïí áãýñéóôï.

    Óôçí áíôéðÝñá ü÷èç, Üó÷åôï ìåí ìå ôá videogames áëëÜ ó÷åôéêüôáôï ìå ôç óçìåñéíÞ êïéíùíßá êáé ôá äÞèåí "ethics" ðïõ ôçí äéÝðïõí:

    ç ãõíáßêá ðïõ åßíáé ðïñíïóôáñ ëÝãåôáé "adult performer/artist" êáé èßãåôáé áí ôçí ÷áñáêôçñßóåéò "éåñüäïõëç" (ãéá íá ìçí ôï ðù ìå ôçí Üó÷çìç ëÝîç) ãéáôß äåí åêäßäåôáé per se, áëëÜ ðáñïõóéÜæåé Ýíá "act" ìðñïóôÜ óôçí êÜìåñá. (êëáßù ìå ôï "artist" )

    ¸÷ïõìå ÷Üóåé ôç ìðÜëá; Åíôåëþò;

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    Sorry for the long wait. I wasted 75 hours of my life playing a grindy game of obligatory side quests and refused to pay for the "Time Saver" packs. I hope you all enjoy my autism as much I want to hang out with Hippocrates now.

    Oh yeah, sorry to all the Greeks viewers. I never studied your wonderful language. I speak Italian and want to pronounce everything as such.
    Bye bye telltale..... ðñïóùðéêÜ Ýíáí áîéüëïãï ôßôëï Ýâãáëáí ê áõôü Þôáí ôï Wolf. Óôá õðüëïéðá åðåéóïäéáêü Üñìåãìá.
    https://gamedaily.biz/article/385/te...ved-from-steam




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    Ç íôñïðÞ ôùí Gaming Site ðáßñíåé áõôü ðïõ ôçò áîßæåé. Ôá post óôï Twitter Ý÷ïõí äéáãñáöåß.

    Game dev exposes Kotaku: they asked me for $1500 if i want to quote their review of my game!!
    https://archive.ph/T7kpr

    Ðôþóç 778 èÝóåùí ôïõò ôåëåõôáßïõò 3 ìÞíåò.


    https://twitter.com/brandonorselli/s...23091814535168


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    ¶íôå ôþñá, íá åìðéóôåõôåßò ôá reviews ôïõò êáé ü÷é ìüíï áõôü - áëëÜ ïé íá ìçí ðù, íá óõììåôÝ÷ïõí êáé óôá ó÷åôéêÜ aggregation sites.

    Êáé åßìáé óßãïõñïò üôé äåí åßíáé ïé ìüíïé.

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    ÅíôÜîåé äåí áó÷ïëïýìáé ìå ôï ôé êÜíåé ï êÜèå ðáðÜñáò óôï internet áëëÜ ðñáãìáôéêÜ, üôáí óå Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé êáé óå ìéá ìéêñÞ óõëëïãéêüôçôá - óôáãüíá äçëáäÞ ôïõ community ôïõ, ìðáßíåéò ìå êÜðïéá ôáõôüôçôá - å áõôü ìå îåðåñíÜåé:

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/...-user-reports/


    Ìå ôçí ßäéá ëïãéêÞ ðñÝðåé íá öÜåé êáé ban/áëëÜîåé Guild name êáé ôï Guild "ÐÁÓÏÊ" áðü ôï game.

    Ìå ôçí äéáöïñÜ üôé ôï ôåëåõôáßï åßíáé named Ýôóé ãéá ÷áâáëÝ/trolling êáé ü÷é üôé ôá members ôïõ åßíáé üíôùò "ðáóüêïé", êáé ãßíïíôáé recruited ìå ôçí ôáõôüôçôá óôï óôüìá Þ ôçí êÜñôá ìÝëïõò.

    Êáé #inb4, ôá ìÝëç ôïõ åí ëüãù guild, êÜíáíå ôï Guild Chat facebook/tinder chat. ¸ôóé?
    ×á÷á÷á÷á, ñå ãáìþôï. Äåí ìðïñþ íá êáôáíïÞóù ôï Internetz ôçò åðï÷Þò ìáò...
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    Êáé ìüëéò Ýãñáøá ôï ðáñáðÜíù the plot thickens:

    https://store.steampowered.com/sale/lgbtq-sale/

    Ïê ðáñáôÜù ôï gaming ôþñá, áí óõìâåß êÜôé áíôßóôïé÷ï óôéò êïíóüëåò.

    Spoiler!
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    ND/Sony rant:

    ÄÞëùóç "Game" developer:
    "We don't use the word 'fun'" says The Last of Us 2 director Neil Druckmann

    ¶íôå íá ëÞîïõí åêåßíá ôá NDA ìðáò êáé ìÜèïõìå ôé Ýãéíå ìå Balestra, Straley, Hennig etc.... êáé ðùò áíÝâçêå ï ìåèõóìÝíïò óôçí éåñáñ÷ßá. Kotaku êáé óéá ðåñíÜíå ôçí Rockstar áðü éåñÜ åîÝôáóç. ¼ôáí áöïñÜ ðñïïäåõôéêÜ studio üðùò ç ND ç ðáñáêÜôù åßäçóç áâáâá:
    https://www.resetera.com/threads/for...t-claim.41697/


    Áðü ôïí Bill ôïõ TLOU1 (undercover LGBT ÷áñáêôÞñáò) ðÞãáìå óôï Left Behind DLC (lesbian kiss) êáé ìåôÜ óå full-blown feminist-inspired game (TLOU2). Áðü ôçí Nadine ôïõ UC4 ðÞãáìå óôï íôïõÝôï Chloe-Nadine (The Lost Legacy) ìå cringey woman power äéáëüãïõò (ï Sam ôï óêõëÜêé ôïõò ãéá ôéò áããáñåßåò) êáé ëïãéêÜ ôï Uncharted 5 èá Ý÷åé Cassie (êüñç Drake) ðñùôáãùíéóôÞ. ¼÷é äåí õðÜñ÷åé êáíÝíá pattern. Ç öÜóç èõìßæåé ÃÁÐ..... ðùò îåêßíçóáí ôá ìíçìüíéá êáé ðïõ öôÜóáìå.

    Ôñåëü êáñöß ôïõ Straley ãéá ôçí óýã÷ñïíç êáôåýèõíóç ôçò ND.
    https://www.gamesradar.com/uncharted...ary-making-of/

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    Áõôü óôçëéôåýåé ï Straley.... why so serious?
    "I didn't want to have a laugh at someone's expense," Neil Druckmann, creative director at Naughty Dog, told GamesRadar. "I thought we'd matured beyond that."
    https://gr.ign.com/uncharted-ps4/260...to-uncharted-4

    ÊÜôé ðïõ äåí îÝñïõí ðïëëïß ãéá ôï ðïôÝ ç ND åéóÞãáãå SJW óôïé÷åßá. Óôï UC3 MP (2011) õðÞñ÷å Co-op Adventure êáé ìéá ðßóôá (Syria) üðïõ åß÷å Ýíá mini-boss ìå machine gun. Áõôü ôï ìðïóÜêé áí ôï âÜñáãåò ìå headshots ôïõ Ýöåõãå ç ìÜóêá/êñÜíïò êáé Ýâëåðåò ôé ÷ñþìá äÝñìáôïò åß÷å (Þôáí RNG, ìáýñï/Üóðñï). Áõôü ôï boss Ýñé÷íå loot ãéá êÜôé treasures. ÕðÞñ÷å ôï êáëü (rare) êáé ôï êáêü (common) loot. Ôï êáëü loot ôï Ýñé÷íå ï ìáýñïò êáé ôï êáêü loot ï ëåõêüò, üëùò ôõ÷áßùò... 100 öïñÝò íá Ýðáéæåò ôçí ßäéá ðßóôá, áõôü ôï pattern ÄÅÍ Üëëáæå. Ðñïöáíþò Þôáí Ýôóé hardcoded óå ðñïãñáììáôéóôéêü åðßðåäï. Ôï ðüóôáñáí ÷ñÞóôåò ìðáò êáé ðÜñïõí áðÜíôçóç áðü ôçí ND êáé ôïõò ôï êëåßäùóå Ýíáò moderator/ND developer. ¸÷ïõí ðåñÜóåé ðïëëÜ ÷ñüíéá êáé äõóôõ÷þò äåí ìðïñþ íá âñù link.

    Ôá origins ôçò ðïëéôéêÞò ïñèüôçôáò óôç Sony. Ôï ðñþôï äåßãìá. 2013:
    https://www.engadget.com/2013/03/11/...in-upcoming-p/

    Sony "made in California". 2019:
    https://www.neogaf.com/threads/was-t...-game.1509994/

    Ôï áìåñéêáíïôñáöÞò êáìÜñé ôçò Sony äáóêáëåìÝíïò áðü ðáëéÜ. Fake Japan Vs Japan. 2015:
    https://www.neogaf.com/threads/shuhe...enauts.981674/

    #meToo
    https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-m...p-games.34611/

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    Åìåôüò. Áðüëõôç óáðßëá. Ìéóáíäñéóìüò êáé ôá ìõáëÜ óôá êÜãêåëá.

    Ìáýñç ðÝôñá áðü åìÝíá (åäþ êáé ÷ñüíéá) óôçí ND.

    Åðßóçò, ÐÏËÕ ÓÙÓÔÏÓ ï ðáëéüò åêåß ðïõ ëÝåé "öôéÜ÷íåôå éóôïñßåò ðïõ ðáßæïíôáé, áíôß ðáé÷íßäéá ìå éóôïñßá".

    Å, ÷Ýóôå ìå, éóôïñßåò ìå gameplay ÐÏÔÅ äåí ìå åíäéÝöåñáí. Ðáé÷íßäéá èÝëù ãéáôß Ý÷ù ðáé÷íéäï-êïíóüëá.

    Äåí Ý÷åé íüçìá íá ðåôá÷ôåß êÜðïéïò íá êÜíåé debate, åßíáé ðïëëÜ ÷ñüíéá ïñéóôéêïðïéçìÝíåò ïé áðüøåéò ìïõ ãéá ìåñéêÜ óôïýíôéï êáé ôçí SJW/woman power êáöñßëá, üðùò êáé ãéá ôï ôé åóôß "ðáé÷íßäé" êáô' åìÝ.

    Êáêþò êïõñÜæåóáé Äéïíýóç, óå ëÜèïò êïéíü ôá ëåò áõôÜ. (åðß ôï ðëåßóôïí)

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    Ðñáãìáôéêá äåí êáôáëáâáéíù ãéáôé ôåôïéá ôñåëá êáèå öïñá ìå áõôï ôï èåìá.
    Ôï LGBT óôïé÷åéï ðïõ å÷åé âáëåé ç ND óôá ðáé÷íéäéá ôçò óõíïëéêá, äåí åéíáé ïõôå óôï ðïóïóôï ðïõ ðñáãìáôéêá õöéóôáôáé åêåé åîù. Ðñåðåé íá ðñïóèåóåé ëéãï áêïìá óôá ðáé÷íéäéá ôçò lol.

    Ïóïí áöïñá ôçí ðïéïôçôá óôá ðáé÷íéäéá ôçò ND, ôá ðéï ðïéïôéêá óå gameplay, level design, pace, story åéíáé ìáêñáí áõôá ðïõ åðéêåöáëçò åéíáé ï Druckmann. Ôï U4 ãéá ðáñáäåéãìá îåöåõãåé áðï ïëá ôá ðñïçãïõìåíá. Ãéá ôï TLOUS äåí ôï óõæçôáìå.

    Ï÷é ïôé ïé áëëïé äåí åéíáé ôáëáíôïõ÷ïé. Êáé ìáêáñé íá ôïõò äïõìå íá öôéá÷íïõí ôï íåï Uncharted(áí åðéóôñåøïõí).
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    Åäþ ðïõ ôá ëÝìå ç MS ìå ôï TELL ME WHY (trans ðñùôáãùíéóôÞò) ôï ôåñìÜôéóå.

    Åßíáé áõôü ðïõ åßíáé.

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