thread: ÌéêñÜ Ã*Ýá êáé rumors ãéá ôï PS5 all-in-one Thread

  1. #1361
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    Ößëå ìïõ äåÃ* ÷ñåéÜæåôáé Ã*á æçôÜò óõããÃ*þìç. Åäù åßìáóôå Ã*á óõæçôÜìå ãé üëá áõôÜ. Ôþñá ðñáãìáôéêÜ ðéóôåýù üôé Ýðñåðå Ã*á ðÜåé óå 2ï ìç÷ÜÃ*çìá êáé ü÷é Ã*á ôï ìðáëþóåé áÃ*åâÜæïÃ*ôáò ôéò óõ÷Ã*üôçôåò. ¼ëá áõôÜ ãßÃ*áÃ*å äéüôé áãüñáóå öèçÃ*Ü ðëõÃ* ôïõ SSD þóôå Ã*á ìðïñÝóåé Ã*á ðïõëÞóåé öèçÃ*Ü. Ôï Üëëï óôñáôüðåäï êáé ðÜÃ*ôá ìéëÜù ôå÷Ã*éêÜ åîçãÞèçêå Ã*ôüìðñá.
    ¸÷ù áõôÞ. ÐëÞñùóå êáé ðÜñôç. Áëëéþò Ý÷ù êáé áõôÞ áÃ* äåÃ* ôï öôÜÃ*åéò. Ôá ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá åßÃ*áé ßäéá êáé ç âéâëéïèÞêç äåÃ* ðÜåé ÷áìÝÃ*ç. Ôé ðéï áðëü?
    Åäþ ìéëÜìå ïôé ìüÃ*ï ôçÃ* ãëþóóá ôïõ äåÃ* êáôÜðéå ï Cerny.
    Ôþñá üóïÃ* áöïñÜ ôï áÃ* îÝñåé Ã*á êáôáóêåõÜóåé êïÃ*óüëá ç Sony ãéá ìÝÃ*á äåÃ* Ý÷åé éäÝá. Ãé áõôü 1 ÷ñüÃ*ï åããýçóç, ôá áÃ*áêáôáóêåõáóìÝÃ*á ðáÃ*å êáé Ýñ÷ïÃ*ôáé êáé ôá óõóôÞìáôá øýîçò Üèëéá. ¼ëïé ôï ëÝÃ*å áõôü. Ç Microsoft åéäéêÜ ìå ôï Series x Ý÷åé êÜÃ*åé ôñïìåñÞ äïõëåéÜ üðùò öáßÃ*åôáé ç êáôáóêåõÞ ôçò êïÃ*óüëáò.
    Ðåò ìïõ ñå óý ðùò èá êÜÃ*åé ç Sony ôï ìç÷ÜÃ*çìá áõôü ðïõ ôñÝ÷åé ìå overclock Ã*á óùðÜóåé ïôáÃ* ôï PS4 pro êÜÃ*åé óáÃ* drone?
    Êáé Ýùò êáé ôþñá ïôé åß÷å âãÜëåé åé÷å ôá ßäéá áðïôåëÝóìáôá.?
    ÌáêÜñé Ã*á ôá êáôáöÝñåé áëëÜ ìïõ öáßÃ*åôáé äýóêïëï.

    ÓôÜëèçêå áðü ôï SM-G955F ìïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþÃ*ôáò Tapatalk
    Åãù ôï ìïÃ*ï ðïõ ëåù, åéÃ*áé Ã*á ðåñéìåÃ*ïõìå ëéãáêé êáé Ã*á ìçÃ* ðñïôñå÷ïõìå. ÏôáÃ* âãåé åäù èá åéìáóôå êáé èá ôï êñéÃ*ïõìå ôï ðùò øõ÷åôáé ôï ðùò áêïõãåôáé êáé ôï ðùò áðïäéäåé. Ìå÷ñé ôïôå ïìùò, ÷ùñéò Ã*á å÷ïõìå äåé êáÃ* ôï óõóôçìá øõîçò, ïõôå êáÃ* ôï ó÷çìáó ôçò êïÃ*óïëáò, å åéÃ*áé õðåñâïëç Ã*á ìáò ðéáÃ*åé ôåôïéá áðïãïçôåõóç. ÄåÃ* èåùñù ïôé ç Sony äåÃ* îåñåé Ã*á öôéá÷Ã*åé êïÃ*óïëåò. ÇìáñôïÃ* leader ôçò âéïìç÷áÃ*éáò åéÃ*áé ñå óõ. ÁÃ* çôáÃ* ôïóï ôñáãéêá ôá ðñáãìáôá å äåÃ* èá çôáÃ* leader ìéá åôáéñåéá.

    Åðéóçò ãéáôé åéìáóôå ôïóï óéãïõñïé ïôé ôï × èá åéÃ*áé ôïóï êáëï óôçÃ* øõîç êáé äåÃ* èá ÷áëáåé êáé óôçÃ* ðïéïôçôá êáôáóêåõçò? Åãù èõìáìáé ôá 360 Ã*á ðåöôïõÃ* ôï åÃ*á ìåôá ôï áëëï ìå ôï RROD. Êáé å÷ù åÃ*á ôåñáóôéï ôïõâëï óôï óõÃ*èåôï ìïõ ðïõ åéÃ*áé ó÷åäïÃ* ïóï ôï PS2 slim (óéãïõñá ðéï âáñõ) êáé ôé åéÃ*áé? Ôñïöïäïôéêï... äçëáäç åÃ*ôáîåé. ÌçÃ* ìå ôñåëáéÃ*åôå ôùñá!

    Ãéá ôï × îåñïõìå ôá ðåñéóóïôåñá. Ãéá ôï 5 å÷ïõìå ðáñá ðïëëá åñùôçìáôéêá áêïìá. Åéôå ó÷åôéêá ìå hardware åéôå õðçñåóéåò êáé features. Áò ôá äïõìå ôïõëá÷éóôïÃ* ïëá êáé ìåôá áò áðïãïçôåõèïõìå.



    Áõôç ôç óôéãìç åãù Ã*éùèù ïôé ï óõÃ*ôñéðôéêïò ëïãïò ãéá ôïÃ* ïðïéï å÷ïõÃ* áðïãïçôåõèåé ïóïé å÷ïõÃ* áðïãïçôåõèåé åéÃ*áé åÃ*á êáé ìïÃ*ï ðñáãìá: 10.2 vs 12 Teraflops.

  2. #1362
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    Ößëå ìïõ äåÃ* ÷ñåéÜæåôáé Ã*á æçôÜò óõããÃ*þìç. Åäù åßìáóôå Ã*á óõæçôÜìå ãé üëá áõôÜ. Ôþñá ðñáãìáôéêÜ ðéóôåýù üôé Ýðñåðå Ã*á ðÜåé óå 2ï ìç÷ÜÃ*çìá êáé ü÷é Ã*á ôï ìðáëþóåé áÃ*åâÜæïÃ*ôáò ôéò óõ÷Ã*üôçôåò.
    ËïéðïÃ* èá óïõ ðù åÃ*á wishfull thinking óåÃ*áñéï ìïõ, ðïõ ïìùò äåÃ* åéÃ*áé áðéèáÃ*ï Ã*á óõìâåé( âáóéêá èá óõìâåé áñãá ç ãñçãïñá).
    2021 ç Sony âãáæåé ôï PSVR2 ìå foveated rendering + eye tracking êáé âëåðåéò êáëõôåñá ãñáöéêá êáé áðï ôéò 2 êïÃ*óïëåò ìåóá óôï VR.
    Áò ðïõìå ïôé åéÃ*áé óáÃ* Ã*á å÷åéò 15tf îåñù ãù óôï PSVR2.

    ''It could have practical benefits, too: eye tracking can help reduce graphics load to make games perform better via a technique called foveated rendering, which could help a game console perform more like a high-end PC. "It's a win-win in that respect,"

    Ôï ðáñáðáÃ*ù ó÷ïëéï åéÃ*áé áðï áÃ*èñùðï óôçÃ* Sony. Êáé îåñåéò ôé óçìáéÃ*åé áõôï óå êëåéóôï console óõóôçìá.
    ÅéÃ*áé ðïëõ ðéèáÃ*ï Ã*á õðïóôçñéæåé ôï PSV2 ôåôïéá ôå÷Ã*ïëïãéá, áðëá äåÃ* ãÃ*ùñéæïõìå áêïìá ðïóï êáëç/åôïéìç èá åéÃ*áé áõôç ãéá Ã*á îåñïõìå áÃ* èá äïõìå ìåãáëåò äéáöïñåò ç ï÷é. Îåñù ïôé ãïõóôáñåéò VR ïðïôå ìáëëïÃ* äåÃ* èá åéÃ*áé áìåëçôåï ôï ðáñáðáÃ*ù ãéá óåÃ*á.
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  3. #1363
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    Ãéùñãïò

    Áõôü ôï ðñÜãìá ðïõ ãßÃ*åôáé ìå ôá ðñïúüÃ*ôá ôå÷Ã*ïëïãßáò(êáé ü÷é ìüÃ*ï) äåÃ* ìðïñþ Ã*á ôï êáôáëÜâù.

    "Áõôü ðïõ èá áãïñÜóù åãþ, åßÃ*áé êáëýôåñï áðü áõôü ðïõ èá áãïñÜóåéò åóý". Êáé êÜðùò ðñÝðåé Ã*á âñù ôñüðï êáé åðé÷åéñÞìáôá Ã*á óå êÜÃ*ù Ã*á áëëÜîåéò ãÃ*þìç.

    Óçìáóßá Ý÷åé ôé ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá èÝëåé Ã*á ðáßîåé ï êáèÝÃ*áò. Ðþò èÝëåé Ã*á øõ÷áãùãçèåé.

    Ôþñá ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôá multiplatform ðñÝðåé ðñþôá Ã*á ðåñéìÝÃ*ïõìå ÷åéñïðéáóôÜ äåßãìáôá. Ìå õðïèÝóåéò äåÃ* äçìéïõñãåßò ãåãïÃ*üò.

    Áò äïýìå ðñþôá ÝÃ*á next-gen ôßôëï...êáé öõóéêÜ Ã*á äïýìå ìå ôá ìÜôéá ìáò ôá ôåëéêÜ ìç÷áÃ*Þìáôá êáé ôçÃ* ôéìÞ ôïõò.

    Peace



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  5. #1364
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    Êùíóôáíôßíïò ÂåëåíôæÜò

    ÄåÃ* åßÃ*áé ìüÃ*ï ôá TF. ÅßÃ*áé üëá. ÌáêÜñé ôéò åðüìåÃ*åò çìÝñåò Ã*á âãåé êáé Ã*á ìáò äåßîåé futures ðïõ èá ìáò êåñäßóïõÃ*. ÌáêÜñé ôé Üëëï Ã*á ðù. ÁëëÜ âëÝðåéò ïôé êáé óôï Backward compatibility ìáÃ*ôÜñá ôá ÝêáÃ*å.
    ÐñÝðåé Ã*á ìáò îåêáèáñßóïõÃ* ôï ôïðßï.
    Ôé å÷åé êáé ôé ü÷é. RDNA VRS êôë. Êïßôá åäþ ðùò êáôÜöåñá Ã*á óéùðÞóù ôï PRO.Êáé èåñìïáãùãéìç Üëëáîá. ÅðéôñÝðåôáé? Ãé áõôü âëÝðù ðåéñáãìåÃ*åò óõ÷Ã*üôçôåò êáé ôñåëáßÃ*ïìáé .



  6. #1365
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    Íá êÜÃ*ù ìéá åñþôçóç åÜÃ* Ý÷åé êÜðïéïò êÜðïéï link ìå ôï failure rate ôïõ ps4 pro áò ôï áÃ*åâÜóåé ãéáôß áêïýù óõÃ*Ý÷åéá ôï ðùò êÜÃ*åé ç êïÃ*óüëá êëð. Ôï èÝìá äåÃ* åßÃ*áé ðùò áêïýãåôáé áëëÜ áÃ* êáåé. Áò êÜÃ*åé óáÃ* áåñïðëÜÃ*ï åöüóïÃ* äïõëåýåé ôåëåéþÃ*åé ôï èÝìá åäþ

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  8. #1366
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    Ëåùíßäáò

    What John is saying sounds pretty right to me! I don't want to down play GPU power, but I promise everybody that you will be absolutely blown away by visuals on both consoles. However, the SSDs are the big difference when coming into this gen. We're not talking about "load times" in the classic sense. That's an antiquated way of thinking about data coming from your hard drive. For the last 10+ years we've been streaming worlds on the fly. The problem is that our assets are absolutely huge now, as are our draw distances, and our hard drives can't keep up. It means that as you move through the world we're trying to detect and even predict what assets need loading. Tons of constraints get put into place due to this streaming speed.

    An ultra fast drive like the one in PS5 means you could be load in the highest level LOD asset for your models way further than you could before and make worlds any way you want without worry of it streaming in fast enough. The PS5 drive is so fast I imagine you could load up entire neighborhoods in a city with all of their maps at super high resolution in a blink of an eye. It's exciting. People don't realize that this will also affect visuals in a big way. If we can stream in bigger worlds and stream in the highest detail texture maps available, it will just look so much better.

    I think the Xbox drive is also good! The PS5 drive is just "dream level" architecture though.
    https://www.resetera.com/threads/pla...#post-30024731
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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  10. #1367
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    ^^ Äçëáäç ìïÃ*ï åãù ôá êáôáëáâá áõôá áðï ôçÃ* ïìéëéá ôïõ Cerny ðïõ ôçÃ* åéäá êáé óâåëôá êáé åéìáé êáé ðáÃ*ôåëùò óêñáðáò ôå÷Ã*ïëïãéêá? Ôá åéðå ôïóï áðëá ðïõ ìå÷ñé êé åãù êáôáëáâá ìå ôçÃ* ìéá ôï ôé áêñéâùò óçìáéÃ*åé ï SSD. Ðïëõò êïóìïò óéãïõñá äåÃ* ôï å÷åé êáôáëáâåé êáé Ã*ïìéæåé ïôé åéÃ*áé áðëá loading.

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  13. #1369
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    ^^ Äçëáäç ìïÃ*ï åãù ôá êáôáëáâá áõôá áðï ôçÃ* ïìéëéá ôïõ Cerny ðïõ ôçÃ* åéäá êáé óâåëôá êáé åéìáé êáé ðáÃ*ôåëùò óêñáðáò ôå÷Ã*ïëïãéêá? Ôá åéðå ôïóï áðëá ðïõ ìå÷ñé êé åãù êáôáëáâá ìå ôçÃ* ìéá ôï ôé áêñéâùò óçìáéÃ*åé ï SSD. Ðïëõò êïóìïò óéãïõñá äåÃ* ôï å÷åé êáôáëáâåé êáé Ã*ïìéæåé ïôé åéÃ*áé áðëá loading.
    Well, ï average user åßÃ*áé... average.
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    ÊÜôé Üëëï. Áõôüò ï ssd äåÃ* èá áëëÜæåé áðï ôé êáôÜëáâá áëëá èá ìðïñåßò åðéðëÝïÃ* Ã*á êïõìðùÃ*åéò êé ÜëëïÃ*. Åëðßæù ôïõëÜ÷éóôïÃ* Ã*á áöáéñåßôáé åýêïëá óå ðåñßðôùóç ðïõ ðÜñåé ôá âÜãéá. ÐñÝðåé ïðïóäçðïôå Ã*á ìáò äåßîïõÃ* ôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá.

    ÓôÜëèçêå áðü ôï SM-G955F ìïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþÃ*ôáò Tapatalk

  15. #1371
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    Áðï ïóá ëåÃ*å ïé devs êáé áðï ôá ïóá ìðïñù Ã*á êáôáëáâù ç Sony åðéëåãåé Ã*á åðåÃ*äõóåé óå åÃ*á áò ðïõìå ðéï exotic piece of hardware åéôå ãéá Ã*á áÃ*ôéóôáèìçóåé ôçÃ* ïðïéá äéáöïñá óå raw power åéôå ãéáôé ïÃ*ôùò ðéóôåõåé ïôé ôï 1,êáôé ôåñáöëïðò äåÃ* èá äùóåé ôï êáôé ðáñáðáÃ*ù óå ó÷åóç ìå ôïÃ* custom ssd.
    ÐñïöáÃ*ùò ðéóôåõïõÃ* ïôé èá êåñäéóïõÃ* êáé óå ïõóéá áëëá êáé ôéìïëïãéáêá.
    Å÷åé Ã*á êáÃ*åé êáé ìå ôéò ðñïôåñáéïôçôåò ôïõ êáèåÃ*ïò, ðñïóùðéêá ìå åÃ*èïõóéáæåé ðïëõ ðåñéóóïôåñï åÃ*á êïììáôé ôïõ hardware ðïõ åéäéêá ôá first party studios èá ìðïñåóïõÃ* Ã*á åêìåôáëëåõèïõÃ* ÷ñçóôéêá êáé ïðôéêá ðáñá Ã*á å÷åé ç êïÃ*óïëá ôï êáëõôåñï framerate êáé ôçÃ* êáëõôåñç áÃ*áëõóç óôá multiplat.
    ÌåÃ*åé Ã*á äïõìå áÃ* åéÃ*áé PR talk ïëï áõôï áëëá óáÃ* éäåá ðñïôéìù óáöùò ôï ðñùôï áðï ôï äåõôåñï.


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  17. #1372
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    Ôï ìüÃ*ï ëÜèïò( ; ) ôçò Sony ÞôáÃ* üôé ç óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*ç ðáñïõóßáóç, ôçÃ* ïðïßá Ýâëåðå êáé ï áðëüò ëáüò, ÝãéÃ*å áðü ÝÃ*áÃ* ìç÷áÃ*éêü....

    Ïé ìç÷áÃ*éêïß ÄÅÍ êÜÃ*ïõÃ* ãéá ðñïþèçóç ðñïéüÃ*ôïò (ðïõ äåÃ* ÞôáÃ* Üëëùóôå, áëëÜ ÜÃ*ôå Ã*á ôï åîçãÞóåéò óôï ëáü....).



    Ï Cerny (÷ùñßò Ã*á èÝëù Ã*á ôïÃ* ðñïóâÜëëù ãéáôß áõôÝò ôéò èÝóåéò ôéò êåñäßæåéò, äåÃ* óôéò ÷áñßæïõÃ*), åîÞãçóå ìå åðé÷åéñÞìáôá ôïõò ëüãïõò ãéá ôïõò ïðïßïõò åðÝëåîáÃ* ôï óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*ï hardware áëëÜ êáé ôïõò óôü÷ïõò ðïõ Ý÷ïõÃ* èÝóåé. Ï ôýðïò üìùò ÝêáÃ*å ôï ëÜèïò Ã*á åîçãÞóåé êáé ôïõò ðåñéïñéóìïýò ôïõ óõóôÞìáôïò .....êáé ç ôñß÷á ÝãéÃ*å ôñé÷éÜ.Ëåò êáé áÃ* ç Gpu êÜÃ*åé throtling áðü ôá 2.230 Mhz óôá 2.130 Mhz èá óõìâåß êáôé....(ãéáôß ãéá 2-3% ìßëçóå)



    Ôï PS5 åßÃ*áé ìéá êïÃ*óüëá ôùÃ* 10 TF êáé ãéá óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*ïõò ëüãïõò Ý÷åé áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ ìå 36CU êáé õøçëïýò ÷ñïÃ*éóìïýò. Åðßôçäåò åðÝëåîáÃ* ôéò õøçëÝò óõ÷Ã*üôçôåò êáé Ý÷ïõÃ* ôïõò ëïãïýò ôïõò, ïéêïÃ*ïìéêïõò êáé Üëëïõò. Ôþñá ãéá ôï áÃ* åßÃ*áé óùóôÞ áõôÞ ç ðñïóÝããéóç èá ôï äïýìå áðü ôï áðïôÝëåóìá.

    ÁÃ* ñùôïýóáÃ* êáé ÝÃ*áÃ* ìç÷áÃ*éêü ôçò MS ãéá ôïõò ðåñéïñéóìïýò ð.÷. ôùÃ* gddr6 äéáöïñåôéêþÃ* ôá÷õôçôþÃ* ôïõ SeX, èá áÃ*Ýöåñå êáé áõôüò ôá óåÃ*Üñéá üðïõ èá õðÞñ÷áÃ* ðñïâëÞìáôá.

    ¼ôáÃ* áðåõèýÃ*åóáé óôï åõñý êïéÃ*ü ÷ñåéÜæåóáé ÝÃ*áÃ* ðáðáôæÞ (óáÃ* ôïÃ* ðÝôóéÃ*ï áðü ôçÃ* pcmr ìåñéÜ ), ü÷é ÝÃ*áÃ* ìç÷áÃ*éêü,ãéáôß áëëéþò ç ôñß÷á ãßÃ*åôáé ôñé÷éÜ. ÅßÃ*áé ëÜèïò ôïõ ôìÞìáôïò marketing.

    Óå êÜèå ðåñßðôùóç ôï SeX åßÃ*áé ðéï äõÃ*áôü êáé ßóùò ðéï ðïéïôéêü êáé ðéï Þóõ÷ï. ¼ðïéïò üìùò ÷áëéÝôáé ãéá ôçÃ* éó÷ý ôïõ PS5, Ã*á ðÜñåé ôï xbox. H Sony ðïôÝ äåÃ* ðñïóÝöåñå éó÷ý, ðÜÃ*ôá ðñïóÝöåñå consistency. Ìå ôçÃ* óõÃ*Ýðåéá êáé ôçÃ* óôáèåñüôçôá ôçò Sony îÝñåéò ïôé óôï ìÝëëïÃ* êáé ã@ìáôá ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá èá âãÜëåé äß÷ùò Ã*á êñÝìåôáé ìüÃ*ï áðü ôïõò 3rd party êáé äåÃ* èá óêïôþóåé ôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá, áÃ* óôñáâþóïõÃ* üëá, üðùò Ý÷åé êÜÃ*åé óôï ðáñåëèüÃ* ç MS.




    Êáé ãéá Ã*á ìçÃ* ðáñåîçãçèþ, áõôÞ ôç óôéãìÞ Ý÷ù óôç êáôï÷Þ ìïõ xbox one, xbox one x êáé ps4. ¼Ã*ôùò õðÜñ÷åé äéáöïñÜ ìåôáîý ôùÃ* 6TF ôïõ OneX êáé ôùÃ* 1,2TF ôïõ xone (ü÷é üìùò êáé ÷áþäçò, ãéá ôïõò ðåñéóóüôåñïõò ÷ñÞóôåò). Ç äéáöïñÜ ôïõ PS4Pro 4.2 TF ìå PS4 1,8TF, ãéá ÝìåÃ*á, ÞôáÃ* ðïëý ìéêñÞ êáé ãéá áõôü êáé äåÃ* áãüñáóá ôï PS4 Pro.

    Ïðüôå ìå âÜóç ôá áÃ*áêïéÃ*ùèåÃ* specs êáé ôçÃ* êýñéá äéáöïñÜ Ã*á åßÃ*áé ÝÃ*á 17% õðÝñ ôïõ åÃ*üò èåùñþ üôé êáé ïé äõï êïÃ*óüëåò èá ðáßæïõÃ* ôá games ðÜÃ*ù êÜôù ôï ßäéo (áÃ* êÜðïéïò ÷áëéÝôáé Ã*á ðáßæåé ð.÷ óôï PS5 óå 1880p/60fps ÝÃ*áÃ*ôé 2160ð/60fps óôï SeX áò ðÜñåé xbox), ìå ìéêñüôåñç äéáöïñÜ áðü áõôÞ ôùÃ* Xbox OneX êáé PS4 Pro. ¼ðïéïò èÝëåé exclusives êáé õðçñåóßåò ôçò Sony Ã*á ðÜñåé PS5 êáé üðïéïò èÝëåé õðçñåóßåò MS êáé êáëýôåñá multi Ã*á ðáñåé ôï SeX. Åãþ èá ðÜñù êáé ôá äõï!!!



    *ÂÜæù óôïß÷çìá üôé óôçÃ* ôñéåôßá èá Ý÷ïõìå PS5 Pro êáèþò êáé Ã*Ýï äõÃ*áôüôåñï SeX . ¹äç ôï äéáôõìðáÃ*ßæåé êáé ç ßäéá ç MS, ç êïÃ*óüëá ôçò ïÃ*ïìÜæåôáé xbox Series X (Üñá èá Ý÷ïõìå ìåëëïÃ*ôéêÜ êáé Üëëá × üðùò êáé Series S ....)

  18. PDS (19-03-2020),Valkyre (19-03-2020)

  19. #1373
    Moderator
    May 2007
    Athens
    20,548
    PSN ID
    PDS_13

    ÊÜôé Üëëï. Áõôüò ï ssd äåÃ* èá áëëÜæåé áðï ôé êáôÜëáâá áëëá èá ìðïñåßò åðéðëÝïÃ* Ã*á êïõìðùÃ*åéò êé ÜëëïÃ*. Åëðßæù ôïõëÜ÷éóôïÃ* Ã*á áöáéñåßôáé åýêïëá óå ðåñßðôùóç ðïõ ðÜñåé ôá âÜãéá. ÐñÝðåé ïðïóäçðïôå Ã*á ìáò äåßîïõÃ* ôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá.
    Èá åéÃ*áé óõãêåêñéìåÃ*ïò SSD ãéáôé áðï ïôé êáôáëáâá äåÃ* õðáñ÷åé êáôé áÃ*áëïãï åêåé åîù óçìåñá.
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  20. cocous (19-03-2020)

  21. #1374
    PS4forums Addict
    Sep 2007
    Âüëïò
    1,993
    PSN ID
    Cocous-XL
    Name
    Êùíóôáíôßíïò ÂåëåíôæÜò

    Ôï ïðïéï saturn(áëëá êáé ôï Í64)çôáÃ* ðéèáÃ*ïÃ* áÃ*ùôåñï áðï ôï ps1.
    Èá åéÃ*áé óõãêåêñéìåÃ*ïò SSD ãéáôé áðï ïôé êáôáëáâá äåÃ* õðáñ÷åé êáôé áÃ*áëïãï åêåé åîù óçìåñá.
    ÔïõëÜ÷éóôïÃ* óå âëÜâç Ã*á áöáéñåßôáé åýêïëá. Ãéá Ã*á äïýìå. Á ñå Sony ìáò Ýóêáóåò. 20 ðßåóç áÃ*åâÜóáìå

    ÓôÜëèçêå áðü ôï SM-G955F ìïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþÃ*ôáò Tapatalk

  22. #1375
    Homo Ludens
    May 2011
    14,941
    PSN ID
    Leon_DiZ
    Name
    Ëåùíßäáò

    I heard from at least 3 Different people in the last couple of hours like, WOW, the Playstation 5 is actually the more superior piece of Hardwar in a lot of different ways desite of what you see in the Spec Sheets.
    Kotaku Splitscreen - Keep Your Teraflops Quarantined
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

  23. panos74gr (19-03-2020),PDS (19-03-2020)

  24. #1376
    Stealth Moderator
    Jan 2008
    Outer Heaven
    32,600
    Name
    ÄçìÞôñçò

    Ôï ìüÃ*ï ëÜèïò( ; ) ôçò Sony ÞôáÃ* üôé ç óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*ç ðáñïõóßáóç, ôçÃ* ïðïßá Ýâëåðå êáé ï áðëüò ëáüò, ÝãéÃ*å áðü ÝÃ*áÃ* ìç÷áÃ*éêü....

    Ïé ìç÷áÃ*éêïß ÄÅÍ êÜÃ*ïõÃ* ãéá ðñïþèçóç ðñïéüÃ*ôïò (ðïõ äåÃ* ÞôáÃ* Üëëùóôå, áëëÜ ÜÃ*ôå Ã*á ôï åîçãÞóåéò óôï ëáü....).



    Ï Cerny (÷ùñßò Ã*á èÝëù Ã*á ôïÃ* ðñïóâÜëëù ãéáôß áõôÝò ôéò èÝóåéò ôéò êåñäßæåéò, äåÃ* óôéò ÷áñßæïõÃ*), åîÞãçóå ìå åðé÷åéñÞìáôá ôïõò ëüãïõò ãéá ôïõò ïðïßïõò åðÝëåîáÃ* ôï óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*ï hardware áëëÜ êáé ôïõò óôü÷ïõò ðïõ Ý÷ïõÃ* èÝóåé. Ï ôýðïò üìùò ÝêáÃ*å ôï ëÜèïò Ã*á åîçãÞóåé êáé ôïõò ðåñéïñéóìïýò ôïõ óõóôÞìáôïò .....êáé ç ôñß÷á ÝãéÃ*å ôñé÷éÜ.Ëåò êáé áÃ* ç Gpu êÜÃ*åé throtling áðü ôá 2.230 Mhz óôá 2.130 Mhz èá óõìâåß êáôé....(ãéáôß ãéá 2-3% ìßëçóå)



    Ôï PS5 åßÃ*áé ìéá êïÃ*óüëá ôùÃ* 10 TF êáé ãéá óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*ïõò ëüãïõò Ý÷åé áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ ìå 36CU êáé õøçëïýò ÷ñïÃ*éóìïýò. Åðßôçäåò åðÝëåîáÃ* ôéò õøçëÝò óõ÷Ã*üôçôåò êáé Ý÷ïõÃ* ôïõò ëïãïýò ôïõò, ïéêïÃ*ïìéêïõò êáé Üëëïõò. Ôþñá ãéá ôï áÃ* åßÃ*áé óùóôÞ áõôÞ ç ðñïóÝããéóç èá ôï äïýìå áðü ôï áðïôÝëåóìá.

    ÁÃ* ñùôïýóáÃ* êáé ÝÃ*áÃ* ìç÷áÃ*éêü ôçò MS ãéá ôïõò ðåñéïñéóìïýò ð.÷. ôùÃ* gddr6 äéáöïñåôéêþÃ* ôá÷õôçôþÃ* ôïõ SeX, èá áÃ*Ýöåñå êáé áõôüò ôá óåÃ*Üñéá üðïõ èá õðÞñ÷áÃ* ðñïâëÞìáôá.

    ¼ôáÃ* áðåõèýÃ*åóáé óôï åõñý êïéÃ*ü ÷ñåéÜæåóáé ÝÃ*áÃ* ðáðáôæÞ (óáÃ* ôïÃ* ðÝôóéÃ*ï áðü ôçÃ* pcmr ìåñéÜ ), ü÷é ÝÃ*áÃ* ìç÷áÃ*éêü,ãéáôß áëëéþò ç ôñß÷á ãßÃ*åôáé ôñé÷éÜ. ÅßÃ*áé ëÜèïò ôïõ ôìÞìáôïò marketing.

    Óå êÜèå ðåñßðôùóç ôï SeX åßÃ*áé ðéï äõÃ*áôü êáé ßóùò ðéï ðïéïôéêü êáé ðéï Þóõ÷ï. ¼ðïéïò üìùò ÷áëéÝôáé ãéá ôçÃ* éó÷ý ôïõ PS5, Ã*á ðÜñåé ôï xbox. H Sony ðïôÝ äåÃ* ðñïóÝöåñå éó÷ý, ðÜÃ*ôá ðñïóÝöåñå consistency. Ìå ôçÃ* óõÃ*Ýðåéá êáé ôçÃ* óôáèåñüôçôá ôçò Sony îÝñåéò ïôé óôï ìÝëëïÃ* êáé ã@ìáôá ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá èá âãÜëåé äß÷ùò Ã*á êñÝìåôáé ìüÃ*ï áðü ôïõò 3rd party êáé äåÃ* èá óêïôþóåé ôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá, áÃ* óôñáâþóïõÃ* üëá, üðùò Ý÷åé êÜÃ*åé óôï ðáñåëèüÃ* ç MS.




    Êáé ãéá Ã*á ìçÃ* ðáñåîçãçèþ, áõôÞ ôç óôéãìÞ Ý÷ù óôç êáôï÷Þ ìïõ xbox one, xbox one x êáé ps4. ¼Ã*ôùò õðÜñ÷åé äéáöïñÜ ìåôáîý ôùÃ* 6TF ôïõ OneX êáé ôùÃ* 1,2TF ôïõ xone (ü÷é üìùò êáé ÷áþäçò, ãéá ôïõò ðåñéóóüôåñïõò ÷ñÞóôåò). Ç äéáöïñÜ ôïõ PS4Pro 4.2 TF ìå PS4 1,8TF, ãéá ÝìåÃ*á, ÞôáÃ* ðïëý ìéêñÞ êáé ãéá áõôü êáé äåÃ* áãüñáóá ôï PS4 Pro.

    Ïðüôå ìå âÜóç ôá áÃ*áêïéÃ*ùèåÃ* specs êáé ôçÃ* êýñéá äéáöïñÜ Ã*á åßÃ*áé ÝÃ*á 17% õðÝñ ôïõ åÃ*üò èåùñþ üôé êáé ïé äõï êïÃ*óüëåò èá ðáßæïõÃ* ôá games ðÜÃ*ù êÜôù ôï ßäéo (áÃ* êÜðïéïò ÷áëéÝôáé Ã*á ðáßæåé ð.÷ óôï PS5 óå 1880p/60fps ÝÃ*áÃ*ôé 2160ð/60fps óôï SeX áò ðÜñåé xbox), ìå ìéêñüôåñç äéáöïñÜ áðü áõôÞ ôùÃ* Xbox OneX êáé PS4 Pro. ¼ðïéïò èÝëåé exclusives êáé õðçñåóßåò ôçò Sony Ã*á ðÜñåé PS5 êáé üðïéïò èÝëåé õðçñåóßåò MS êáé êáëýôåñá multi Ã*á ðáñåé ôï SeX. Åãþ èá ðÜñù êáé ôá äõï!!!



    *ÂÜæù óôïß÷çìá üôé óôçÃ* ôñéåôßá èá Ý÷ïõìå PS5 Pro êáèþò êáé Ã*Ýï äõÃ*áôüôåñï SeX . ¹äç ôï äéáôõìðáÃ*ßæåé êáé ç ßäéá ç MS, ç êïÃ*óüëá ôçò ïÃ*ïìÜæåôáé xbox Series X (Üñá èá Ý÷ïõìå ìåëëïÃ*ôéêÜ êáé Üëëá × üðùò êáé Series S ....)
    ÄåÃ* åé÷å óêïðï Ã*á êáÃ*åé ðñïùèçóç ðñïéïÃ*ôïò. Ôï äõóôõ÷çìá âåâáéá åéÃ*áé ïôé åðéêïéÃ*ùÃ*éáêá ç ÓïÃ*õ ôá óêáôùóå ãéáôé ðïëõò êïóìïò Ã*ïìéæå ïôé áõôç ç ðáñïõóéáóç çôáÃ* ðáñïõóéáóç ðñïùèçóçò ðñïéïÃ*ôïò.

  25. thanosa75 (19-03-2020)

  26. #1377
    Elite
    Oct 2007
    819

    ðáÃ*ôùò ðéóôåõù ïôé èá êáÃ*ïõÃ* ôç êáÃ*ïÃ*éêç consumer ðáñïõóéáóç óõÃ*ôïìá...

  27. #1378
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162


    ÅÃ*ôáîåé êëáßù ìå ôá ó÷ïëéá


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  28. #1379
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Dec 2016
    2,593


    Óçìáóßá Ý÷åé ôé ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá èÝëåé Ã*á ðáßîåé ï êáèÝÃ*áò. Ðþò èÝëåé Ã*á øõ÷áãùãçèåé.

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    Áõôïò åéÃ*áé êáé ï âáóéêïò ëïãïò ðïõ ôïõò ðåñéóóïôåñïõò ìå âáóç ôá ãñáðôá ôïõò âëåðåéò ïôé ôá éäéá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá äåÃ* ôïõò åÃ*äéáöåñïõÃ* ôïóï (Þ ôïõò åÃ*äéáöåñïõÃ* ôá multiplatform ðáé÷Ã*éäéá êõñéùò) ,ï÷é ìïÃ*ï ãéá áõôá ðïõ ãñáöïÃ*ôáé ôùñá(êáé èá óõÃ*å÷éóïõÃ* óôï ìåëëïÃ* ìå÷ñé ôï launch)ãéá ôéò next gen êïÃ*óïëåò,áëëá êáé ãéá ôéò ðñïçãïõìåÃ*åò/ôùñéÃ*åò.

  29. #1380
    Administrator
    May 2007
    Ðáôñá
    13,189
    PSN ID
    Slay2012

    Èá åéÃ*áé óõãêåêñéìåÃ*ïò SSD ãéáôé áðï ïôé êáôáëáâá äåÃ* õðáñ÷åé êáôé áÃ*áëïãï åêåé åîù óçìåñá.
    ËïãéêÜ nand ôóéðáêéá êïëëçìÝÃ*á óôçÃ* ìçôñéêÞ.

    ÓôÜëèçêå áðü ôï Redmi Note 8 ìïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþÃ*ôáò Tapatalk