ÌéΓͺñÜ Γ*ÝÑ ΓͺÑé rumors ãéÑ ôï PS5 all-in-one Thread

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ÍÑé, Γ― Erebus ìéëÜΓ₯Γ© ãéÑ 2Ô Flash Storage ðñïò 499 Γ₯áñþ (Γ³Γ₯ ÀéÑâïñΓ₯ôéΓͺΓΌ tweet).

ÍÑ Àù 2Ô Flash Storage óôÑ ìüëéò 499 ΓͺÑé Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* ôï ðéóôÝøù! ÁΓ* ôï ΓͺÑôÑâÝñΓ₯Γ© Ñáôü Γ§ Sony (Γ¬Γ₯ ÷ÑóïýñÑ Ññ÷éΓͺΓΎΓ² üðùò óôÑ PS1/2/3) ÷ßëéÑ ìðñÜÒï ôçò!

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ÍÑé, Γ― Erebus ìéëÜΓ₯Γ© ãéÑ 2Ô Flash Storage ðñïò 499 Γ₯áñþ (Γ³Γ₯ ÀéÑâïñΓ₯ôéΓͺΓΌ tweet).

ÍÑ Àù 2Ô Flash Storage óôÑ ìüëéò 499 ΓͺÑé Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* ôï ðéóôÝøù! ÁΓ* ôï ΓͺÑôÑâÝñΓ₯Γ© Ñáôü Γ§ Sony (Γ¬Γ₯ ÷ÑóïýñÑ Ññ÷éΓͺΓΎΓ² üðùò óôÑ PS1/2/3) ÷ßëéÑ ìðñÜÒï ôçò!

ÐÑΓ*ôùò Γ«Γ₯áôΓ₯Γ±Γ§ Γ― óáãΓͺΓ₯ΓͺñéìΓ₯Γ*Γ―Γ² Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ðïëý Γ‘Γ�éüðéóôïò leaker.
ÏðùôΓ₯ èÑ ìéëÑìΓ₯ ãéÑ ðïëý Γ₯á÷ÑñéóôÑ Γ*Γ₯Γ‘, Γ‘Γ* Γ―Γ*ôùò ôÑ ðñÑãìÑôÑ ãéΓ*Γ―Γ΅Γ* ΓͺÑðùò Γ₯ôóéÒ€¦.

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ÐÑΓ*ôùò Γ«Γ₯áôΓ₯Γ±Γ§ Γ― óáãΓͺΓ₯ΓͺñéìΓ₯Γ*Γ―Γ² Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ðïëý Γ‘Γ�éüðéóôïò leaker.
ÏðùôΓ₯ èÑ ìéëÑìΓ₯ ãéÑ ðïëý Γ₯á÷ÑñéóôÑ Γ*Γ₯Γ‘, Γ‘Γ* Γ―Γ*ôùò ôÑ ðñÑãìÑôÑ ãéΓ*Γ―Γ΅Γ* ΓͺÑðùò Γ₯ôóéÒ€¦.

Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé leaker - Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé controlled leaker ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ ôóéìðÜΓ*Γ₯ Γ‘Γ*ôéÀñÜóΓ₯éò.

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Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé leaker - Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé controlled leaker ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ ôóéìðÜΓ*Γ₯ Γ‘Γ*ôéÀñÜóΓ₯éò.

Áðï ôçΓ* éÀéÑ ôçΓ* Γ³Γ―Γ*Γ΅ ÀçëÑÀç Γ₯?

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ÍÑé, Γ― Erebus ìéëÜΓ₯Γ© ãéÑ 2Ô Flash Storage ðñïò 499 Γ₯áñþ (Γ³Γ₯ ÀéÑâïñΓ₯ôéΓͺΓΌ tweet).

ÍÑ Àù 2Ô Flash Storage óôÑ ìüëéò 499 ΓͺÑé Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* ôï ðéóôÝøù! ÁΓ* ôï ΓͺÑôÑâÝñΓ₯Γ© Ñáôü Γ§ Sony (Γ¬Γ₯ ÷ÑóïýñÑ Ññ÷éΓͺΓΎΓ² üðùò óôÑ PS1/2/3) ÷ßëéÑ ìðñÜÒï ôçò!

ÖáóéïëïãéΓͺΓ§ Γ§ ôéìÞ ãéÑ Ñáôç ôçΓ* ÷ùñçôéΓͺüôçôÑ, ÑëëÑ Γ§ Γ£Γ*þìç ìïá Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ïôé èÑ ðñÝðΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ 񋆑Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ SKU óôÑ 399

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Åðéóçò Ñáôï ðïá Γ«Γ₯Γ₯Γ© 1Γ§ ΓΆΓ―Γ±Γ‘ ôï Γ‘Γͺïáù, Γ₯é÷ÑìΓ₯ Γ‘ΓͺïáóΓ₯Γ© ãéÑ óáìÒÑôïôçôÑ Γ¬Γ₯ ôï 4, ÑëëÑ Γ―Γ·Γ© ãéÑ ÏËÁ ôÑ playstation ΓͺÑé ìÑëéóôÑ Γ³Γ₯ Γ„Γ‰Γ“ΓŠΓΓŠΓ‰Γ.

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Γ…ΓŸΓ·Γ₯ Γ‘ΓͺïáóôΓ₯ß ΓͺÑé ðÑëÑéüôΓ₯Γ±Γ‘. Ðéï óáãΓͺΓ₯ΓͺñéìÝΓ*Γ‘ Γ¬Γ₯ ÝΓ*Γ‘ tweet ôïá óôáë "ìçΓ* Γ°Γ₯ôÜΓ�Γ₯Γ΄Γ₯ ôÑ ÀéóΓͺÜΓͺéÑ PS1/2/3" (Γ°Γ₯ñß PS4 Γ₯ß÷Γ₯ ÞÀç Γ‘Γ*ÑâΓ₯Γ±Γ¨Γ₯ß Γ§ óáìÒÑôüôçôÑ)

Ï ëüãïò -ΓͺÑô' Γ₯ìÝ- Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé Ñðëüò.

ΒΈΓ·Γ―Γ΅Γ*-ÀïáëΓ₯Γ½Γ―Γ΅Γ* ôïáò PS1/2 emulators Ñðü ôçΓ* Γ₯ðï÷Þ ôïá PS3 = ãé' Ñáôü Γ₯ß÷ÑìΓ₯ ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ PS1/PS2 ðïá ÝðÑéæÑΓ* óôï PS3 Γ¬Γ₯ ìïΓ*ÑÀéΓͺÞ Γ’Γ₯ëôßùóç ôçΓ* Γ΄Γ₯Γ·Γ*çôÞ ÑýΓ�çóç Γ‘Γ*Üëáóçò.

ÁΓͺïëïýèùò ΓͺÑé óôï PS4, Γ₯ß÷ÑΓ* ÞÀç ðñïóâÝñΓ₯Γ© ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ Ñðü PS1/2/3 ïáóéÑóôéΓͺÜ ìÝóù emulation.

ÅìâÑΓ*ΓΎΓ² ëïéðüΓ* ôÑ ðÑñÑðÜΓ*ΓΉ Γ¬Γ₯ôÑâÝñïΓ*ôÑé óôï PS5.

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Control devs say PS5 will let us "have much more detail in the game worlds than before

ðñïâÑΓ*ΓΉΓ² Ñáôï Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ΓͺÑôé ΓͺÑéΓ*ïáñéï, ãéÑôé ìéëÑìΓ₯ ãéÑ Γ*Γ₯Γ‘ Γ£Γ₯Γ*éÑ, ÑëëÑ Ñáôï ðïá Γ«Γ₯Γ*Γ₯ Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ₯Γ© Γ¬Γ₯ ôïΓ* SSD.

With it, though, the SSD will lift the restrictions imposed by current systems, and will enable developers to craft more detailed worlds. "For something like Control, that could translate to an even deeper destruction system, richer, more detailed worlds, and simple quality-of-life improvements like instant reloading after dying." Technical director Mika Vehkala said that the SSD will also allow Remedy to stream in more data, "allowing us to have much more detail in game worlds than before."

Vehkala also highlighted that harnessing the power of the SSD will also mean that games will require smaller install sizes, as "there is no need to duplicate data to compensate for slow seek times that optical drives and HDDs have."

Γ„Γ₯Γ* èÑ áðÑñ÷Γ₯Γ© Γ― Γ°Γ₯ñéïñéóìïò Γ³Γ₯ âïñôùóç data Γ‘Γ*Γ‘ frame, ΓͺÑôé ðïá Ñðï ìïΓ*Γ― ôïá ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ₯Γ© ôçΓ* ÀéÑâïñÑ. Γ…ΓΆΓ―Γ³Γ―Γ* âçìïëïãΓ₯éôÑé ïôé èÑ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ΓͺÑé ÑñΓͺΓ₯ôÑ ÀáΓ*ÑôΓ₯Γ² Γ―Γ© Γ*Γ₯Γ₯Γ² ΓͺΓ―Γ*Γ³Γ―Γ«Γ₯Γ², ðéèÑΓ*Γ―Γ* Γ³Γ΅Γ*ïëéΓͺΓ‘ Γ*Γ‘ ÀïáìΓ₯ Ñðï ôÑ Γ¬Γ₯ãÑëáôΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ ÑëìÑôÑ ðïá Γ₯÷ïáìΓ₯ Γ€Γ₯Γ© Γ¬Γ₯Γ·Γ±Γ© óçìΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ Γ³Γ₯ Γ*Γ₯Γ‘ Γ£Γ₯Γ*éÑ.

ÊÑôé ðïá Γ³Γ₯ ΓͺÑðïéï ÒÑèìï èÑ ÷ÑèΓ₯Γ© Ñðï ôï diminishing returns Γ’Γ₯񄎄. KÑèùò ðïóï ðéÑ ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ’Γ₯ëôéùèΓ₯Γ© Ñáôï

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btw ÀéÑÒÑóÑ Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ ðÑëéï ðïóô Γ₯Γ*Γ―Γ² video game artist ôçò Guerrilla ãéÑ ôï diminishing returns

So anyways - about the actual issue at hand; there really is a diminishing returns issue in games. Every time you double the amount of polygons, the subject will only look marginally better than the previous generation did. The difference between PS1 and PS2 was enormous. The difference between PS2 and PS3 was smaller, although still very significant. The difference between PS3 and PS4 is clearly noticeable, but it's not as big a leap as previous generations were. Future generations will no doubt offer smaller changes in graphical fidelity, and put more focus on added features.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comm...ture_is_a_bad/

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Ïé ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ² ðïá èÑ ÀïáìΓ₯ èÑ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γͺáñéùò Γ³Γ₯ ÑôìïóâÑéñÑ, ðïëáðëïΓͺïôçôÑ ôïðéùΓ*, physics (ñïá÷Ñ, ëÑóðΓ₯Γ², Γ*Γ₯Γ±Γ―) âùôéóìïáò ΓͺÑé Γ‘Γ*ôÑΓ*Γ‘ΓͺëÑóΓ₯éò. ÏΓ*ôùò Γ― -Γ«Γ₯Γ¬Γ₯ ôùñÑ- Nathan Drake ôïá PS5 èÑ Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© ðïëá ðïëá Γ°Γ₯ñéóóïôΓ₯Γ±Γ§ Γ«Γ₯ðôïìΓ₯ñéÑ Ñðï ÑáôïΓ* ôïá 4 ÑëëÑ ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ ôçΓ* Γ€Γ₯éò ÑáôçΓ* ôçΓ* Γ«Γ₯ðôïìΓ₯ñéÑ ðñÑΓͺôéΓͺΓ‘, èÑ ðñΓ₯Γ°Γ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ ìðΓ₯éò óôï âùôï mode ΓͺÑé Γ*Γ‘ æïáìÑñΓ₯éò ðÑΓ*ΓΉ óôï ÷ÑñÑΓͺôçñÑ, Γ*Γ‘ Γ€Γ₯éò ìéÑ ìéΓͺΓ±Γ―Γ³ΓͺïðéΓͺΓ§ Γ₯ëéÑ óôï ìÑãïáëï ôïá ΓͺÑé Γ*Γ‘ æïáìÑñΓ₯éò ΓͺΓ© Ñëëï ΓͺÑé Γ*Γ‘ Γ€Γ₯éò ïôé Γ₯Γ*Ñò ôáðïò ðçãΓ₯ ΓͺÑé Γ₯ÒÑëΓ₯ 5 ôñé÷Γ₯Γ² Γ₯ΓͺΓ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé Γ‘ΓͺïáóïΓ* Γ‘ΓͺïáóïΓ* Γ₯Γ·Γ―Γ΅Γ* physics ΓͺÑé ΓͺΓ©Γ*Γ―Γ΅Γ*ôÑé Γ‘Γ*ÑëïãÑ ôïΓ* Γ‘Γ₯Γ±Γ‘!

ÇÀç ôùñÑ óôï Horizon ΓͺΓ‘Γ*ÑìΓ₯ æïáì ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ ìÑèïáìΓ₯ ïôé óôÑ ìÑôéÑ ôçò Alloy Γ‘Γ*ôÑΓ*Γ‘ΓͺëÑôÑé ôï Γ°Γ₯ñéÒÑëëïΓ*. ×ùñéò photo mode ïáôΓ₯ ðïá èÑ ôï Γ₯ðÑéñΓ*Γ₯ ÷ÑìðÑñé ðïôΓ₯ ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ₯Γ*Ñò. ÏðïôΓ₯ Γ*Ñé Γ₯Γ·Γ―Γ΅Γ* Γ*Γ‘ ÷ÑèïáΓ* ðïëëΓ₯Γ₯Γ₯Γ² Γ«Γ₯ðôïìΓ₯Γ±Γ©Γ₯Γ² ôçΓ* Γ₯ðïìΓ₯Γ*Γ§ Γ£Γ₯Γ*éÑ, Γ₯Γͺôïò Ñðï Ñáôïáò ðïá èÑ ΓͺÑèïΓ*ôÑé Γ*Γ‘ ôéò Γ‘Γ*Γ‘ΓͺÑëáðôïáΓ* Γ¬Γ₯ æïáì 600% ôçΓ* Γ₯Γ©ΓͺΓ―Γ*Γ‘. ÄçëÑÀç ôï Digital Foundry

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Ôï diminishing returns Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γ₯Γ*Ñò Γ―Γ±Γ―Γ² ðïá Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ�Γ₯Γ±ΓΉ Γ‘Γ* ôïΓ* ÷ñçóéìïðïéïáΓ* ìïΓ*Γ― ãéÑ ôï polygon count Γ§ Γ£Γ₯Γ*Γ©ΓͺΓΉΓ². ÁΓ* Γ‘Γ*ÑâΓ₯Γ±Γ₯ôÑé ìïΓ*Γ― óôÑ ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘, Γ*Ñé ðñïâÑΓ*ΓΉΓ² ΓͺÑé Γ₯÷ïáìΓ₯ âôÑóΓ₯Γ© Γ³Γ₯ Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ óçìΓ₯éï ðïá Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ ÀïáìΓ₯ Γ¬Γ₯ãÑëΓ₯Γ² ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ² ïðïôΓ₯ éóùò Ñðï Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ óçìΓ₯éï ΓͺÑé Γ¬Γ₯ôÑ Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ*ïçìÑ Γ*Γ‘ óðÑôÑëïáΓ*ôÑé ðïñïé ãé Ñáôï ôï ðñÑãìÑ ΓͺÑé ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ Γ’Γ«Γ₯ðïáìΓ₯ ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ² Γ¬Γ₯ æïáì x10 Γ�Γ₯Γ±ΓΉ ãù. ΓƒΓ₯Γ*Γ©ΓͺΓ―Γ΄Γ₯Γ±Γ‘ óôÑ ãñÑâéΓͺΓ‘ Γ¨Γ₯ΓΉΓ±ΓΉ ïôé Γ₯÷ïáìΓ₯ Γ‘ΓͺïìÑ ðïëá Àñïìï Γ*Γ‘ ÀéÑΓ*áóïáìΓ₯ ΓͺÑé ôÑ óáã÷ñïΓ*Γ‘ ãñÑâéΓͺΓ‘ ðÑéñΓ*Γ―Γ΅Γ* ôïΓ*ïáò Γ’Γ₯ëôéùóΓ₯ΓΉΓ*. ÐïëëΓ₯Γ² ΓΆΓ―Γ±Γ₯Γ² ÑéóèÑΓ*ïìÑé ïôé ïëï ôï ÒÑñïò Γ°Γ₯ΓΆΓ΄Γ₯Γ© óôçΓ* ðïéïôçôÑ Γ₯Γ©ΓͺΓ―Γ*Ñò, Ñò ðïáìΓ₯ ôï animation Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ₯Γ�Γ₯ëé÷èΓ₯Γ© Γ‘Γ*ÑëïãÑ. ÔÑ physics Γ₯ðéóçò Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γ₯Γ*Γ΄Γ₯ëùò rudimentary óôï 99% ôùΓ* ðÑé÷Γ*éÀéùΓ*, Γ―Γ© ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ² ðïá Γ₯÷ïáìΓ₯ Γ€Γ₯Γ© Ñðï ôçΓ* ðñïçãïáìΓ₯Γ*Γ§ Γ£Γ₯Γ*éÑ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ìçÀÑìéΓ*Γ₯Γ² ΓͺÑé ðÑΓ*ôÑ Ñðï óáãΓͺΓ₯ΓͺñéìΓ₯Γ*Γ‘ studios. ÕðÑñ÷ïáΓ* ðïëëÑ ðÑñÑÀΓ₯éãìÑôÑ ðÑé÷Γ*éÀéùΓ* ðïá ïôÑΓ* ôÑ Γ’Γ«Γ₯Γ°Γ₯éò Γ³Γ₯ still images Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé gorgeous, ïôÑΓ* ôÑ Γ’Γ«Γ₯Γ°Γ₯éò Γ³Γ₯ ΓͺΓ©Γ*çóç Γ₯ðÑΓ*Γ₯Γ±Γ·Γ₯óÑé ÑìΓ₯Γ³ΓΉΓ² óôçΓ* ðñÑãìÑôéΓͺïôçôÑ.
ÐñïóùðéΓͺΓ‘ ôï ray tracing Γ³Γ₯ Γ₯ðéðΓ₯Àï âùôéóìùΓ* Γ¨Γ₯ΓΉΓ±ΓΉ ïôé çÀç Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ€Γ₯Γ©Γ�Γ₯Γ© ðïóï Γ΄Γ₯ñÑóôéÑ ÀéÑâïñÑ ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ₯Γ© óôçΓ* ðÑñïáóéÑóç Γ₯Γ*Γ―Γ² ðÑé÷Γ*éÀéïá, Γ΄Γ₯ôïéΓ₯Γ² Γ΄Γ₯Γ·Γ*ïëïãéΓ₯Γ² Γ³Γ₯ Γ³Γ΅Γ*ÀéÑóìï Γ¬Γ₯ ôçΓ* Γ₯Γ�Γ₯ëéΓ�Γ§ Γ³Γ₯ Γ₯ðéðΓ₯Àï physics/ animation ìðïñïáΓ* Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ―Γ΅Γ* Γ΄Γ₯ñÑóôéÑ ÀéÑâïñÑ. ÁðëÑ Γ¨Γ₯ΓΉΓ±ΓΉ ïôé Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© ΓͺïëëçóΓ₯Γ© ëéãï Γ§ Γ’Γ₯ëïΓ*Γ‘ Γ³Γ₯ Γ₯ðéðΓ₯Àï ãñÑâéΓͺΓΉΓ* Γ¬Γ₯ ôçΓ* ÑðïÀïóç, Γ‘Γ*ÑëáóΓ₯éò ΓͺÑé frame rates. ÊÑé 48Ê Γ*Γ‘ âôÑóΓ₯Γ© Γ§ Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóç Γ‘Γ* ôï animation Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé éÀéï Γ¬Γ₯ ðÑé÷Γ*éÀéÑ ôïá 2012 Γ§ ÀéÑâïñÑ Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ ΓΆΓ‘Γ*Γ₯Γ©.

According to a new report, games are running better on the PlayStation 5 in comparison to running on Xbox Scarlett, Xbox's untitled next-gen console. As you may know, previous reports from earlier this year have all suggested that the PS5 is more powerful than the Xbox Scarlett. If this is the case, then games running better on the Sony console makes sense. However, for now, this unofficial scuttlebutt. That said, according to yet another report, the PS5 is the superior of the two consoles, or at least it looks that way right now.

Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ·ΓΉ éÀΓ₯Γ‘ ðïóï Γ₯Γ£Γͺáñï ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Ñáôï Γ’Γ₯񄎄 (ìéëÑìΓ₯ ãéÑ devkits), ÑðëÑ Γ‘Γ*ÑðÑñÑãΓ₯ôÑé ΓͺÑé Γ₯éðÑ Γ*Γ‘ ôï ÒÑëù.
https://comicbook.com/gaming/2019/11...s-performance/

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Ôï diminishing returns Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γ₯Γ*Ñò Γ―Γ±Γ―Γ² ðïá Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ�Γ₯Γ±ΓΉ Γ‘Γ* ôïΓ* ÷ñçóéìïðïéïáΓ* ìïΓ*Γ― ãéÑ ôï polygon count Γ§ Γ£Γ₯Γ*Γ©ΓͺΓΉΓ². ÁΓ* Γ‘Γ*ÑâΓ₯Γ±Γ₯ôÑé ìïΓ*Γ― óôÑ ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘,

ÔÑ ðÑΓ*ôÑ ÑâïñÑ Γ*ïìéæù, ΓͺÑé ìÑëëïΓ* óôçΓ* Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóç Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ₯Γ±Γ¨Γ₯Γ© ðéï ãñçãïñÑ ôï diminishing returns. MΓ₯ôÑ ôï native 4K Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ Γ’Γ«Γ₯ðïáìΓ₯ Γ‘Γ*ÑëïãΓ₯Γ² ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ² Γ¬Γ₯ ôï 480 Γ³Γ₯ 720 ð÷.(ìïΓ*Γ― Γ³Γ₯ VR èÑ Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ*ïçìÑ Γ§ ÑáΓ�çóç Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóçò)
Åðéóçò Γ‘Γ* ðÑΓ*Γ₯ Γ³Γ₯ 60Ññé óôÑèΓ₯Γ±Γ―, ïôéÀçðïôΓ₯ ðÑΓ*ΓΉ Ñðï Γ₯ΓͺΓ₯Γ© èÑ ìðïñïáóΓ₯ Γ*Γ‘ Γ¨Γ₯ùñçèΓ₯Γ© diminishing returns. ÐÑΓ*ôÑ áðÑñ÷Γ₯Γ© Γ’Γ₯ëôéùóç Γ³Γ₯ Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóç, ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘, frames, ÑðëÑ ΓͺÑðïéÑ óôéãìç Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ*ïçìÑ. Ááôï Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ΓͺÑëï Γ’Γ₯񄎄 ãéÑôé Γ―Γ© ðïñïé èÑ ÷ñçóéìïðïéïáΓ*ôÑé Γ°Γ₯ñéóóïôΓ₯Γ±Γ― ãéÑ ïôé ÑðïìΓ₯Γ*Γ₯Γ© ïðùò Γ«Γ₯Γ². Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ÑðÑñÑéôçôï ð÷ Γ*Γ‘ ÑáΓ�çóΓ₯éò ôïóï ðïëá Γ―Γ³Γ― óôï ðÑñΓ₯ëèïΓ* ôÑ ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘ óôÑ ìïΓ*Γ΄Γ₯ëÑ. ÔÑ áðïëïéðÑ ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘ ìðïñïáΓ* Γ*Γ‘ ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèïáΓ* ãéÑ Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ ðéï Γ£Γ₯ìÑôï Γ°Γ₯ñéÒÑëëïΓ* ΓͺÑé draw distance. KÑôé ðïá èÑ ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ³Γ§ΓͺΓΉΓ*Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé Γ― SSD.

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Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ·ΓΉ éÀΓ₯Γ‘ ðïóï Γ₯Γ£Γͺáñï ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Ñáôï Γ’Γ₯񄎄 (ìéëÑìΓ₯ ãéÑ devkits), ÑðëÑ Γ‘Γ*ÑðÑñÑãΓ₯ôÑé ΓͺÑé Γ₯éðÑ Γ*Γ‘ ôï ÒÑëù.
https://comicbook.com/gaming/2019/11...s-performance/

ÐÜëé ÀéÑÒÜæù ôéò ðßðΓ₯Γ² ôïá 2013, üôé ΓͺÑé ΓͺÑëÑ Γ§ MS Γ¬Γ₯ "software" èÑ ΓͺΓ«Γ₯éóΓ₯Γ© ôï power gap. Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯ãéΓ*Γ₯ ôïôΓ₯, Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ ãéΓ*Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé ôùñÑ, ÁËËÁ.....
ðñÑãìÑôéΓͺÜ Γ€Γ₯Γ* ðéóôΓ₯áù ïôé èÑ ìðïñïáìΓ₯ Γ*Γ‘ ÀïáìΓ₯ ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ², Γ₯éÀéΓͺΓ‘ Γ³Γ₯ ðÑé÷Γ*éÀéÑ ΓͺΓ«Γ₯éÀùìÝΓ*Γ‘ óôÑ 30 ΓͺÑñΓ₯. Éóùò ôï PS5 Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γ°Γ₯ñéóóïôΓ₯Γ±Γ― future proof ãéÑ 8K (ðïá Γ¨Γ₯ΓΉΓ±ΓΉ Ñ÷ñçóôï ãéÑ ôçëΓ₯ïñÑóç), ÑëëÑ ãéÑ 4Ê ðïá èÑ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ Γ¬Γ₯ãÑëï Γ¬Γ₯Γ±Γ―Γ² ôùΓ* ðÑé÷Γ*éÀéùΓ* Γ―Γ© ÀéÑâïñÝò èÑ Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ÀáóÀéÜΓͺñéôΓ₯Γ². ΓŒΓΓΓ‡ ÀéÑâïñÜ èÑ ìðïñïýóΓ₯ Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé Γ³Γ₯ VR, ÁÍ Γ§ MS ðÑΓ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé ÑáôÞ Γ³Γ₯ ΓͺÜðïéÑ VR óáóΓͺΓ₯áç, ïðïá ôï ΓͺÑëáôΓ₯Γ±Γ― hardware èÑ ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ 񄖄Γ₯Γ© Γ¬Γ₯ãÑëáôΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ frame rates.

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Eãù Ñëëï Γ³ΓͺΓ₯âôïìÑé, Γ¬Γ₯ ôç ëïãéΓͺΓ§ ïôé Γ―Γ© ΓͺΓ―Γ*Γ³Γ―Γ«Γ₯Γ² èÑ ΓΆΓ―Γ±Γ‘Γ*Γ₯ ôÑ éÀéÑ ðÑΓ*ΓΉ ΓͺÑôù Γ¬Γ₯ ìéΓͺΓ±Γ₯Γ² ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ², Γ€Γ₯Γ* áðÑñ÷Γ₯Γ© Γ°Γ₯ñéèùñéï Γ*Γ‘ ìÑôóÑñΓ₯Γ© Γ― Γ₯Γ*Ñò ôïΓ* ÑëëïΓ* Γ³Γ₯ specs Γ¬Γ₯Γ·Γ±Γ© ôï launch Γ§ ðéï óùóôÑ Γ¬Γ₯Γ·Γ±Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ�Γ₯ΓͺΓ©Γ*çóΓ₯Γ© Γ§ ðÑñÑãùãç?

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Eãù Ñëëï Γ³ΓͺΓ₯âôïìÑé, Γ¬Γ₯ ôç ëïãéΓͺΓ§ ïôé Γ―Γ© ΓͺΓ―Γ*Γ³Γ―Γ«Γ₯Γ² èÑ ΓΆΓ―Γ±Γ‘Γ*Γ₯ ôÑ éÀéÑ ðÑΓ*ΓΉ ΓͺÑôù Γ¬Γ₯ ìéΓͺΓ±Γ₯Γ² ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ², Γ€Γ₯Γ* áðÑñ÷Γ₯Γ© Γ°Γ₯ñéèùñéï Γ*Γ‘ ìÑôóÑñΓ₯Γ© Γ― Γ₯Γ*Ñò ôïΓ* ÑëëïΓ* Γ³Γ₯ specs Γ¬Γ₯Γ·Γ±Γ© ôï launch Γ§ ðéï óùóôÑ Γ¬Γ₯Γ·Γ±Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ�Γ₯ΓͺΓ©Γ*çóΓ₯Γ© Γ§ ðÑñÑãùãç?

ðïëá ðïéï ðñéΓ*, Γ‘ΓͺüìÑ ΓͺÑé Γ¬Γ*çìç Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ÀáóΓͺïëï Γ*Γ‘ ÒÑëΓ₯éò ðÑñÑðÜΓ*ΓΉ Γ³Γ₯ Γ¬Γ₯ôÑãΓ₯Γ*Γ₯Γ³Γ΄Γ₯Γ±Γ― Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ*Γ― ãéÑôé Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ΓͺïëëçìΓ₯Γ*Γ§ óôçΓ* ìçôñéΓͺΓ§. ÁΓ* èáìÑóÑé ôÑ ðñùôÑ ps4 Γ₯é÷ÑΓ* ôçΓ* Γ¬Γ*çìç Γ³Γ₯ clamshell configuration ãéÑ Ñáôï ôïΓ* ëïãï. ÐÑéñΓ*Γ₯éò ΓͺÑðïéΓ₯Γ² ÑðïâÑóΓ₯éò ΓͺÜðïéÑ óôéãìç ΓͺÑé Γ¬Γ₯Γ*Γ₯éò Γ¬Γ₯Γ·Γ±Γ© ôï Γ΄Γ₯ëïò Γ¬Γ₯ ÑáôΓ₯Γ², Γ€Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé Pc Γ*Γ‘ ÑëëÑΓ�Γ₯éò ÑðëÑ Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ Γ₯Γ�ÑñôçìÑ.

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ÔÑ ðÑΓ*ôÑ ÑâïñÑ Γ*ïìéæù, ΓͺÑé ìÑëëïΓ* óôçΓ* Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóç Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ₯Γ±Γ¨Γ₯Γ© ðéï ãñçãïñÑ ôï diminishing returns. MΓ₯ôÑ ôï native 4K Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ Γ’Γ«Γ₯ðïáìΓ₯ Γ‘Γ*ÑëïãΓ₯Γ² ÀéÑâïñΓ₯Γ² Γ¬Γ₯ ôï 480 Γ³Γ₯ 720 ð÷.(ìïΓ*Γ― Γ³Γ₯ VR èÑ Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ*ïçìÑ Γ§ ÑáΓ�çóç Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóçò)
Åðéóçò Γ‘Γ* ðÑΓ*Γ₯ Γ³Γ₯ 60Ññé óôÑèΓ₯Γ±Γ―, ïôéÀçðïôΓ₯ ðÑΓ*ΓΉ Ñðï Γ₯ΓͺΓ₯Γ© èÑ ìðïñïáóΓ₯ Γ*Γ‘ Γ¨Γ₯ùñçèΓ₯Γ© diminishing returns. ÐÑΓ*ôÑ áðÑñ÷Γ₯Γ© Γ’Γ₯ëôéùóç Γ³Γ₯ Γ‘Γ*Ñëáóç, ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘, frames, ÑðëÑ ΓͺÑðïéÑ óôéãìç Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ Γ₯Γ·Γ₯Γ© Γ*ïçìÑ. Ááôï Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ΓͺÑëï Γ’Γ₯񄎄 ãéÑôé Γ―Γ© ðïñïé èÑ ÷ñçóéìïðïéïáΓ*ôÑé Γ°Γ₯ñéóóïôΓ₯Γ±Γ― ãéÑ ïôé ÑðïìΓ₯Γ*Γ₯Γ© ïðùò Γ«Γ₯Γ². Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯Γ©Γ*Ñé ÑðÑñÑéôçôï ð÷ Γ*Γ‘ ÑáΓ�çóΓ₯éò ôïóï ðïëá Γ―Γ³Γ― óôï ðÑñΓ₯ëèïΓ* ôÑ ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘ óôÑ ìïΓ*Γ΄Γ₯ëÑ. ÔÑ áðïëïéðÑ ðïëáãùΓ*Γ‘ ìðïñïáΓ* Γ*Γ‘ ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèïáΓ* ãéÑ Γ₯Γ*Γ‘ ðéï Γ£Γ₯ìÑôï Γ°Γ₯ñéÒÑëëïΓ* ΓͺÑé draw distance. KÑôé ðïá èÑ ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ Γ³Γ§ΓͺΓΉΓ*Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé Γ― SSD.

Ï ßÀéïò Γ― Γ*üìïò ôïá Moore Ý÷Γ₯Γ© óôïáΓͺÜñΓ₯Γ©. ÏðüôΓ₯ ðñïâÑΓ*ΓΎΓ² ΓΌΓ*ôùò èÑ áðÜñ÷ïáΓ* diminishing returns Ñðü Γ₯Àþ ΓͺÑé ðÝñÑ.

Γ„Γ₯Γ* Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ôá÷Ñßï üôé ôï selling point Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ôÑ Loading times, immersive worlds, physics Γͺôë. ðñÜãìÑôÑ ôÑ ïðïßÑ Γ―ΓΆΓ₯ßëïΓ*ôÑé óôï áðïóýóôçìÑ ÀéÑìΓ₯ôÑãùãÞò ΓͺÑé ôçΓ* Cpu Γ₯Γ* ìÝñΓ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé ΓΌΓ·Γ© ôçΓ* éó÷ý ôçò GPU.

Áðü Γ₯ΓͺΓ₯ß ΓͺÑé ðÝñÑ ôï Γ¨Γ₯ΓΉΓ±ΓΎ Γ€Γ₯ÀïìÝΓ*Γ― üôé Γ¬Γ₯ ΓΌΓ«Γ₯Γ² ôéò Γ΄Γ₯Γ·Γ*ïëïãßΓ₯Γ² dynamic scaling èÑ ðÜìΓ₯ Γ³Γ₯ 60Ññé. Áðü ôçΓ* Nvidia (DLSS) ΓͺÑé ôï VRS óôéò AMD, ìÝ÷ñé ôï ÔÁÁ ΓͺÑé ÜëëÑ ΓͺüëðÑ, ôï Γͺüëðï Ý÷Γ₯Γ© óôçèΓ₯ß.

Ááôü ðïá èÝëù Γ*Γ‘ Àù Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ΓͺÑôÜ ðüóï èÑ óôçñé÷èïýΓ* Γ³Γ₯ âÜóç VRR ãéÑ Γ₯Γ΅ΓͺïëßÑ ΓͺÑé âáóéΓͺÜ Γ*Γ‘ óðñþΓ�Γ―Γ΅Γ* ...ôçëΓ₯ïñÜóΓ₯éò.

Γ„Γ₯Γ* ìéëÜù ãéÑ ôçΓ* Sony ÑðïΓͺΓ«Γ₯éóôéΓͺÜ. ÓáΓ*Γ₯ñãÑôéΓͺÜ ãßΓ*Γ―Γ*ôÑé üëÑ ÑáôÜ...

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2~3 Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ*éÑ Γ¬Γ₯ôÜ óôï next gen ôï 120fps èÑ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ôï 60Ññé ôïá óÞìΓ₯Γ±Γ‘. Bookmark this.

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Nope. ÄéÑâùΓ*ΓΎ ãéÑ ôï 120Üñé.
Γ“ΓͺÝâôΓ₯óÑé Γ³Γ‘Γ* PCÜΓͺéÑò, ãé Ñáôü ôï Γ«Γ₯Γ².

¸÷ïáìΓ₯ 6K TV ΓΉΓ² Γ₯Γ*ÀéÜìΓ₯Γ³Γ― óôÜÀéï (ðïá Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ ðïëáðñïìïôÑñéóôΓ₯ß Ýùò ΓͺÑèüëïá) ΓͺÑé Ý÷ïáìΓ₯ 8Ê TV ðïá èÑ ðñÝðΓ₯Γ© Γ*Γ‘ ðïáëÞóïáΓ* óôéò next-next gen ΓͺΓ―Γ*Γ³ΓΌΓ«Γ₯Γ².

Γ…ΓŠΓ…Γ‰ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ôÑ Γ«Γ₯âôÜ ΓͺÑé ΓΌΓ·Γ© óôéò ðßðΓ₯Γ² ôùΓ* PCÜΓͺéÀùΓ* (ãéÑôß Γ°Γ₯ñß ðéðþΓ* ðñüΓͺΓ₯éôÑé) Γ¬Γ₯ 120/144Hz ΓͺÑé Γ¬Γ₯ ôï ðïáë.......Γ₯Γ·Γ¬, ôï mouse ΓͺÑé ôï ðëçΓͺôñïëüãéï óôï ÷Ýñé (ÅËÅÏÓ ôÑ ðÑéÀéÜ ðÑßæïáΓ* üðùò ðÑßæÑìΓ₯ 1980-1985 Γ¬Γ₯ Spectrum/Amstrad ðëçΓͺôñïëüãéÑ. ÁΓͺüìÑ ΓͺÑé Γ― Commodore 64 Γ₯ß÷Γ₯ ΓͺëÜóΓ₯Γ© ôÑ ðëçΓͺôñïëüãéÑ ΓͺÑé Γ₯ß÷Γ₯ joystick).

Nerds all over rejoice.

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Ôï 120 Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ôï target refresh rate ðïëëþΓ* ôçëΓ₯ïñÜóΓ₯ΓΉΓ* Γ‘ΓͺüìÑ ΓͺÑé óÞìΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ ΓͺÑé ΓͺÜôé basic ãéÑ ôï HDMI 2.1

Γ•Γ°ΓœΓ±Γ·Γ―Γ΅Γ* ÞÀç games óôï ps4 ðïá Ý÷ïáΓ* 120fps target frame rate ÑëëÜ ΓͺÑé Γ‘ΓͺüìÑ ΓͺÑé Γ³Γ₯ ÑáôÜ ðïá Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé wonnabe 60 ôï Γ—1Γ— Γ°.Γ·. Γ₯ðùâΓ₯Γ«Γ₯ßôÑé Γ¬Γ₯ ëßãï ðéï smooth frametime (tearing óôï 1440p/120 display mode).

ÄéÑâïñΓ₯ôéΓͺÜ 30 ÀÞèΓ₯Γ* Γ¬Γ₯ ÜðΓ₯éñï motion blur (ôï ïðïßÑ óðÜΓ*éÑ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé POBM) ΓͺÑé ... ghosting.

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OΓ³Γ― Γ‘ΓͺïáìðÑìΓ₯ óôï diminishing ôïóï ðéï ðéèÑΓ*Γ― Γ*Γ‘ ÀùóïáΓ* Γ°Γ₯ñéóóïôΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ frames Γ€Γ₯Γ* ÀéÑâùΓ*ΓΉ. ÈÑ ôï ΓͺΓ‘Γ*Γ―Γ΅Γ* ïìùò? ãéÑ Γ*Γ‘ ÀïáìΓ₯.

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Γ•Γ°ΓœΓ±Γ·Γ―Γ΅Γ* ÞÀç ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ óôï PS4 ðïá óôï÷Γ₯Γ½Γ―Γ΅Γ* óôÑ 120 fps;
(âáóéΓͺÜ ΓͺÑé ôï VR Γ€Γ₯Γ* óáììΓ₯ôÝ÷Γ₯Γ© ΓΉΓ² Γ₯ðé÷Γ₯ßñçìÑ, ΓͺÑèþò Γ‘Γ*ÑâΓ₯ñüìÑóôΓ₯ Γ³Γ₯ ôçëΓ₯ïñÜóΓ₯éò)

ÐïéÑ Γ₯ßΓ*Ñé ÑáôÜ ôÑ ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ Γ±Γ₯ ðÑéÀéÜ; ΒΈΓ·ΓΉ ÷ÜóΓ₯Γ© ôüóÑ ðïëëÜ Γ₯Γ°Γ₯éóüÀéÑ (ðïá Γ€Γ₯ ôï Γ*ïìßæù) ;;;

ÃéÑ Γ°Γ₯ßôΓ₯ ìïá óôÑ ðÑñÑΓͺÑëþ ôÑ PS4 ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ Γ¬Γ₯ 120 fps target ðïá ΓͺéüëÑò áðÜñ÷ïáΓ* ÞÀç...

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Faster loading times on Scarlett/PS5 will be dependent on optimisation and developer priorities (AI, Gfx, physics, HFR)


https://www.neogaf.com/threads/faste...s-hfr.1512190/




ΒΌΓ·Γ© ðùò ëÝΓ₯Γ© ΓͺÜôé ΓͺÑéΓ*ïýñãéï Γ― ÜΓ*èñùðïò ÑëëÜ Γ*Γ‘ ìçΓ* Γ*ïìßæïáìΓ₯ ðùò èÑ Ý÷Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé ôñÑãéΓͺÞ ÀéÜâïñÑ óôÑ loading times óôÑ ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ Γ*ÝÑò Γ£Γ₯Γ*éÜò ÑëëÜ óßãïáñÑ èÑ ÒïçèÞóΓ₯Γ© óôï Γ*Γ‘ "ÀïáëÝøïáΓ*" ôÑ ðÑé÷Γ*ßÀéÑ üðùò Γ€Γ₯Γ* èÑ ìðïñïýóÑΓ* Γ*Γ‘ ÀïáëÝøïáΓ* Γ¬Γ₯ ôÑ ôùñéΓ*Ü óáóôÞìÑôÑ

Áðü ôçΓ* Üëëç ÒÝÒÑéÑ Γ*Γ‘ ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯Γ© ëüãï Γ§ Remedy ãéÑ optimization óôéò ΓͺΓ―Γ*Γ³ΓΌΓ«Γ₯Γ² ìïá ΓͺÜΓ*Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÜðùò Γ₯éñùΓ*Γ©ΓͺΓΌ