thread: ÌéêñÜ Ã*Ýá êáé rumors ãéá ôï PS5 all-in-one Thread

  1. #4101
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    ÐïëëÜ ðñÜãìáôá ìðïñïýÃ* Ã*á ðÜÃ*å óôñáâÜ óôï BC, åîïý êáé ç áÃ*Üãêç patching, åéäéêÜ áÃ* ìéëÜìå ãéá low-level ðñïãñáììáôéóìü.

    Ìðïñåß Ã*áé ìåÃ* ÝÃ*á ðáé÷Ã*ßäé Ã*á ôñÝ÷åé unpatched, áëëÜ Ã*á ðáñïõóéÜæåé visual glitches. Èá ÞôáÃ* áðïäåêôü êÜôé ôÝôïéï; ÄåÃ* Ã*ïìßæù.

    Åäþ Ã*á óçìåéþóù üôé ç ISA (Instruction Set Architecture, áõôü ðïõ ëÝìå áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ êáé óåô åÃ*ôïëþÃ*) ôçò RDNA2 GPU åßÃ*áé ç GCN. Áõôü ôï ëÝù ãéáôß êõêëïöïñåß óõ÷Ã*Ü ùò ðáñáÃ*üçóç óôï äéáäßêôõï (äåÃ* ìéëÜù ãéá åäþ ìÝóá ðñïò áðïöõãÞÃ* ðáñåîçãÞóåùÃ*).

    Ìá èá ðåé êÜðïéïò äåÃ* åßÃ*áé GCN! Êáé üìùò, GCN åßÃ*áé (äåÃ* Ý÷åé áëëÜîåé ç áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ), åéäÜëëùò äåÃ* èá åß÷áìå êáÃ* BC. ÅÃ*ôåëþò äéáöïñåôéêÞ áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ = bye-bye BC (ìéëÜù ãéá native execution, ü÷é emulation).

    Ç RDNA/Navi åßÃ*áé -ãéá Ã*á ôï ðù áðëïúêÜ- GCN ìå tiled rasterizer (ðïõ áÃ*åâÜæåé ôï efficiency êáé ñß÷Ã*åé ôçÃ* êáôáÃ*Üëùóç). ¸÷ù îáÃ*áãñÜøåé óå Üëëï post ôé åßÃ*áé ôï tiling êáé ðùò äïõëåýåé (óðÜóéìï ôçò åéêüÃ*áò/framebuffer óå êïõôÜêéá ãéá ðéï efficient åðåîåñãáóßá ãñáöéêþÃ*).

    Ãéá Ã*á ìçÃ* õðÜñ÷åé êáìßá ðáñÜÃ*ïçóç ëïéðüÃ*:

    GCN = ç GPU ISA
    Polaris/RDNA = uarch (ìéêñïáñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ)

    Ôï Ã*á ðåé êÜðïéïò äåÃ* åßÃ*áé GCN ISA ç RDNA2 uarch, åßÃ*áé óáÃ* Ã*á ðåé êÜðïéïò ôï åîÞò ðáñÜëïãï: üôé ç Zen 2 CPU äåÃ* åßÃ*áé x86-64!

    x86-64 = ç CPU ISA
    Jaguar/Zen 2 = ç ìéêñïáñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ

    Ôé åßÃ*áé ç ìéêñïáñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ; ÅßÃ*áé ç åêÜóôïôå õëïðïßçóç ôçò áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞò.



    Ç áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ åßÃ*áé ìéá (áëëÜæåé ðïëý óðÜÃ*éá), áëëÜ ïé ìéêñïáñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÝò ðïëëÝò êáé äéÜöïñåò (êÜðïéåò êáëÝò, êÜðïéåò ìÝôñéåò, êÜðïéåò êáêÝò).

    ¼óï ðéï Ã*åüôåñç åßÃ*áé ìéá ìéêñïáñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ, ôüóï ðéï efficient åßÃ*áé (óõÃ*Þèùò äçëáäÞ, óðáÃ*ßùò èá õðÜñîåé efficiency regression).

    Ï ëüãïò ðïõ äåÃ* áëëÜæåé ç áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ/ISA åßÃ*áé ëüãù BC requirements. ÔÝëåéï BC üìùò äåÃ* õðÜñ÷åé ðïõèåÃ*Ü (ïýôå êáÃ* óå PC, áó÷Ýôùò ôïõ ôé áêïýôå).

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  3. #4103
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    Ôï ðéóù êïììáôé ôïõ êïõôéïõ ôïõ ps5 äåé÷Ã*åé ôá áîåóïõáñ ðïõ èá åñ÷ïÃ*ôáé ìåóá, ìáæé ìå ôçÃ* êïÃ*óïëá

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  5. #4104
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    Íá áñ÷ßóïõìå äçëáäÞ Ã*á áÃ*çóõ÷ïýìå ðïõ ëÝåé óêÝôï HDMI cable áÃ*ôß ãéá Ultra High Speed HDMI cable?

    Ïóïé äåÃ* ðáñáêïëïõèåßôå ôï thread ìå ôéò ôçëåïñÜóåéò Ý÷ù ðïóôÜñåé åêåß ãéá ôï Series X üôé èá Ý÷åé óôï ðáêÝôï êáëþäéï HDMI 2.1
    http://www.ps4forums.gr/vb/showthrea...l=1#post686662

    https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/...ies-x-latency/

    One of the biggest elements in all of this is the data that flows through your HDMI cable.
    Microsoft is an active member of the HDMI consortium, and the team worked hard to shape the HDMI 2.1 standard to support features important for Xbox Series X in a number of areas, including:


    • Transmission time to the TV: HDMI 2.1 supports up to 4k at 120 Hz which allowed the team to reduce frame transmission time from 16.6ms to 8.3ms, without sacrificing on resolution. This is an automatic 8.3ms latency improvement on TVs that support it and benefits games at all framerates.
    • Variable refresh rate (VRR): When games miss their frames, VRR will show the result with the lowest possible latency. 120 Hz TVs that support VRR typically have very large timing windows which makes above 40 FPS performance free of screen tearing.
    • In-TV latency: Xbox Series X invokes Automatic Low Latency Mode (ALLM) on capable TVs to automatically enable Game Mode, removing any work previously required of gamers.
    • Ultra High Speed HDMI Cable: An Ultra High Speed HDMI cable is included with every Xbox Series X to ensure that players receive the premium gaming experience if they have an HDMI 2.1 compatible display.

  6. #4105
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    Ôï "HDMI Cable" åßÃ*áé ï ãåÃ*éêüò üñïò ðïõ áÃ*ôéëáìâÜÃ*åôáé ï ëáüò êáé ðïõ åßÃ*áé õðï÷ñåùìÝÃ*ç (Ã*ïìéêÜ) ç åôáéñåßá Ã*á áÃ*áãñÜöåé óôï êïõôß (ðïéá åßÃ*áé ôá ðåñéå÷üìåÃ*á åÃ*ôüò êïõôéïý).

    Ôï áÃ* èá åßÃ*áé Þ äåÃ* èá åßÃ*áé HDMI 2.1 äåÃ* ðñüêåéôáé Ã*á ôï äéáâÜóïõìå óôï êïõôß.

    Ãéáôß Üëëùóôå Ã*á ôï ãñÜöåé ìå ôå÷Ã*éêÞ ëåðôïìÝñåéá;

    ÃÃ*þñéæå êÜðïéïò üôé ôï HDMI (ðïõ áÃ*áãñáöüôáÃ* Ýôóé óêÝôá "HDMI" óôï êïõôß) ôïõ PS4........åßÃ*áé HDMI 1.4;

    ¹ ìÞðùò ãÃ*þñéæå ï êüóìïò üôé ï image controller (ôï ðáëéü RAMDAC) ôïõ PS4 OG....ìðïñåß Ã*á ðñïóöÝñåé (Ýóôù êáé êÜðùò ôóáðáôóïýëéêá) HDR;;;

    ¼÷é!


    ÉóôïñéêÜ ç Sony, èÝëåé Ã*á óïõ ðáñÝ÷åé ïôéäÞðïôå åßÃ*áé õðï÷ñåùôéêü Ã*á äéáèÝôåéò (ùò ÷ñÞóôçò) ãéá Ã*á áðïëáýóåéò ôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá óïõ óôï ìÝãéóôï óôï ðáêÝôï áãïñÜò: äçëáäÞ ôï HDMI êáëþäéï èá åßÃ*áé 2.1.


    Áò áñ÷ßóïõìå Ã*á áÃ*çóõ÷ïýìå áöïý ôï Ý÷ïõìå ðñþôá óôá ÷Ýñéá ìáò.

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  9. #4107
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    Êáé ïäçãßåò ðáñáêáëþ óôï êïõôß ãéá ìåôáöïñÜ áðü PS4 óå PS5




  10. #4108
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    Ôï "HDMI Cable" åßÃ*áé ï ãåÃ*éêüò üñïò ðïõ áÃ*ôéëáìâÜÃ*åôáé ï ëáüò êáé ðïõ åßÃ*áé õðï÷ñåùìÝÃ*ç (Ã*ïìéêÜ) ç åôáéñåßá Ã*á áÃ*áãñÜöåé óôï êïõôß (ðïéá åßÃ*áé ôá ðåñéå÷üìåÃ*á åÃ*ôüò êïõôéïý).

    Ôï áÃ* èá åßÃ*áé Þ äåÃ* èá åßÃ*áé HDMI 2.1 äåÃ* ðñüêåéôáé Ã*á ôï äéáâÜóïõìå óôï êïõôß.

    Ãéáôß Üëëùóôå Ã*á ôï ãñÜöåé ìå ôå÷Ã*éêÞ ëåðôïìÝñåéá;

    ÃÃ*þñéæå êÜðïéïò üôé ôï HDMI (ðïõ áÃ*áãñáöüôáÃ* Ýôóé óêÝôá "HDMI" óôï êïõôß) ôïõ PS4........åßÃ*áé HDMI 1.4;

    ¹ ìÞðùò ãÃ*þñéæå ï êüóìïò üôé ï image controller (ôï ðáëéü RAMDAC) ôïõ PS4 OG....ìðïñåß Ã*á ðñïóöÝñåé (Ýóôù êáé êÜðùò ôóáðáôóïýëéêá) HDR;;;

    ¼÷é!


    ÉóôïñéêÜ ç Sony, èÝëåé Ã*á óïõ ðáñÝ÷åé ïôéäÞðïôå åßÃ*áé õðï÷ñåùôéêü Ã*á äéáèÝôåéò (ùò ÷ñÞóôçò) ãéá Ã*á áðïëáýóåéò ôçÃ* êïÃ*óüëá óïõ óôï ìÝãéóôï óôï ðáêÝôï áãïñÜò: äçëáäÞ ôï HDMI êáëþäéï èá åßÃ*áé 2.1.


    Áò áñ÷ßóïõìå Ã*á áÃ*çóõ÷ïýìå áöïý ôï Ý÷ïõìå ðñþôá óôá ÷Ýñéá ìáò.
    Ãéá Ã*á ëÝåé ðÜÃ*ù óôï êïõôß 4Ê/120fps óçìáßÃ*åé üôé ôï êáëþäéï HDMI 2.1 óõìðåñéëáìâÜÃ*åôáé ìÝóá óôç óõóêåõáóßá.


  11. #4109
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    ÁÃ* ôï PS4 Pro åß÷å 4K-ready (premium HDMI) cable, ôüôå ç ëïãéêÞ ëÝåé üôé êáé ôï PS5 èá Ý÷åé HDMI 2.1 cable. ÄåÃ* õðÜñ÷åé ëüãïò áÃ*çóõ÷ßáò. ÅîÜëëïõ êáé ç Sony èá èÝëåé Ã*á ðïõëÞóåé êáìßá Ã*Ýá Bravia.

    ÌéëÜìå ãéá mass produced cables ìå ìéêñü êüóôïò êáôáóêåõÞò. Êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ìå retail ôéìÝò.

  12. spartan (24-10-2020)

  13. #4110
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    ¶ñá Ý÷ù äßêéï óôï ðñïçãïýìåÃ*ï ðïóô ìïõ ÏäõóóÝá.

  14. #4111
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    ÓõÃ*å÷ßæïÃ*ôáé ôá patches.

    - Last of Us; Remastered
    - Concrete Genie
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

  15. #4112
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  16. #4113
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    Ðùò âñÞêåò öùôïãñáößåò áðü ôï óðßôé ìïõ;

  17. #4114
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    Íá õðïèÝóïõìå üôé ôï åìðÜñãêï èá äéáñêÝóåé ìÝ÷ñé áñ÷Ýò Íïåìâñßïõ?

    An unboxing of the box that the PS5 comes in.
    We're only allowed to show you the PlayStation 5 still in the box so here it is from every single angle possible.


  18. #4115
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    Ãéá ôá embargo

    PS5 review embargo lift)
    " 27th for unboxing, 6th for some more stuff, and then various embargos for launch games. It's all over the place. "

    GamingTrend posted this comment under his
    .
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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  20. #4116
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    Ôõðéêü Sony NDA èá Ýëåãá.

  21. #4117
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    Ãéá ôá embargo
    PS5 review embargo lift
    27th for unboxing, 6th for some more stuff, and then various embargos for launch games. It's all over the place.
    Äõóôõ÷þò èá áñêåóôïýìå ìå ôá êëáóéêÜ unboxing ìåèáýñéï, ç 6ç Íïåìâñßïõ áñãåß ðïëý, åßÃ*áé ëéãüôåñï áðü ìéá åâäïìÜäá ðñéÃ* ôï launch,
    èá ðåñÃ*ïýóáÃ* ðéï ãñÞãïñá ïé ìÝñåò áÃ* åñ÷üÃ*ôïõóáÃ* ïé ðëçñïöïñßåò áêáôÜðáõóôá áðü ìåèáýñéï.

  22. #4118
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    ÌáêÜñé Ã*á êïðåß ôï Internet ìÝ÷ñé ôçò 19/11 Ã*á ìçÃ* äïýìå ôßðïôá êáé Ã*á áÃ*ïßîïõìå ôï ps5 êáé Ã*á ôï øÜ÷Ã*ïõìå ãéá Ã*á âñïýìå ôé êÜÃ*åé

  23. panos74gr (25-10-2020)

  24. #4119
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    ÄåÃ* åßÃ*áé äýóêïëï, ôñÜâá ôï êáëþäéï.

  25. #4120
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    Áõôü ðñïóðáèþ. ÄåÃ* Ý÷ù äåé gameplay video ôïõ morales, äåÃ* áÃ*ïßãù link ìå ps5. ÄåÃ* èá äù ôï unboxing ôï ìüÃ*ï ðïõ èá áÃ*ïßîù åßÃ*áé êÜÃ*á site ðïõ èá ìéëÜåé ãéá èåñìïêñáóßá êïÃ*óüëáò