ÌéΓͺñÜ Γ*ÝÑ ΓͺÑé rumors ãéÑ ôï PS5 all-in-one Thread

[Slay]

Oðïéïò Ý÷Γ₯Γ© ôïí Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ­Γ― Γ­Γ‘ ôï Γ€Γ₯Γ© Ñò ìÑò Γ°Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé ôÑ ðéï óçìÑíôéΓͺÜ Γ°Γ₯ñéëçðôéΓͺÜ ãéÑôß Γ₯ßíÑé 33 Γ«Γ₯ðôÜ ÒßíôΓ₯Γ―.

Γ­Γ‘ ôï Γ€Γ₯éò, ôÑ Γ«Γ₯Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑëÑ ôï ðÑéÀé.
Γ…Γ­Γ‘ Ñðï ÑáôÑ ðïá Γ«Γ₯Γ₯Γ© ðñïò ôï Γ΄Γ₯ëïò, Γ₯éíÑé ïôé Γ₯Γ©ΓͺÜæΓ₯Γ© üôé ôï nanite ÷ñçóéìïðïéΓ₯Γ© ôïáò primitive shaders ðïá Γ₯éðΓ₯ Γ― Cerny óôçí ðÑñïáóéÑóç.
Åãù ðéóôΓ₯áù Γ₯ßôΓ₯ Ñáôü óôï ïðïßï ÑíÑâÝñΓ₯ôÑé Γ₯ßíÑé ìéÑ ðÑñÑëëÑãç ôïá VRS Γ₯ßôΓ₯ ôï VRS Γ¬Γ₯ Üëëï üíïìÑ.

[Valkyre]

Ôï ÒÑóéΓͺΓ―Γ΄Γ₯Γ±Γ― ðïá ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ­Γ‘ ÑðïΓͺïììéóΓ₯Γ© ΓͺÑíΓ₯éò Γ’Γ«Γ₯ðïíôÑò ÑáôÑ ôÑ ÒéíôΓ₯Γ― Ñðï ôïí Γ₯Γ­ ëïãï developer Γ₯éíÑé ôï Γ₯Γ�çò:

Cerny knows his shit...

ÊÑôé ðïá âáóéΓͺΓ‘ èÑ Γ₯ðñΓ₯Γ°Γ₯ Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯éíÑé Γͺïéíç ëïãéΓͺΓ§ Ñí ΓͺïéôÑΓ�Γ₯éò ÑðëÑ ôï ÒéïãñÑâéΓͺΓ― ôïá, ÑëëÑ ÑñΓͺΓ₯ôïé ÒãçΓͺÑí ΓͺÑé Γ₯éðÑí ïôé Ñáôï ôï road to PS5 Γ₯éíÑé Γ£Γ₯ìÑôï ÀéΓͺÑéïëïãéΓ₯Γ² ΓͺÑé áðΓ₯ΓͺâáãΓ₯Γ²...

[vadergr]

ÈΓ₯ΓΉΓ±Γ₯ßôÑé Γ’Γ₯ÒÑéÑï ïôé èÑ ΓͺΓ΅ΓͺëïâïñÞóΓ₯Γ© Γ¬Γ₯Γ³Γ‘ óôï 2020?
Γ‹Γ₯Γ΄Γ₯ Γ­Γ‘ ÑíÑâΓ₯ñïáí ôéìç ΓͺÑé release date?

[Fulgore]

ÈΓ₯ΓΉΓ±Γ₯ßôÑé Γ’Γ₯ÒÑéÑï ïôé èÑ ΓͺΓ΅ΓͺëïâïñÞóΓ₯Γ© Γ¬Γ₯Γ³Γ‘ óôï 2020?

Åôóé Γ₯÷ïáí Γ°Γ₯Γ© Γ―Γ© éÀéΓ₯Γ² Γ―Γ© Γ₯ôÑéñΓ₯Γ©Γ₯Γ²,Γ¬Γ₯ Γ¬Γ₯ãÑëï Γ₯ñùôçìÑôéΓͺΓ― óôçí ÀéÑèΓ₯óéìïôçôÑ(ΓͺïììÑôéÑ).

[PDS]

ÅìÝíÑ ðÜíôùò Γ₯Γ­Γ­Γ―Γ₯ßôÑé ðùò Γ¬Γ₯ ΓͺΓ₯íôñßæΓ₯Γ© Γ§ ðñïóÝããéóç ôçò Sony ÑëëÜ ãéÑôß ìïá Ý÷Γ₯Γ© ÀçìéïáñãçèΓ₯ß Γ§ Γ₯íôýðùóç ðùò Γ§ ôÑΓͺôéΓͺÞ ôçò MS èÑ ΓͺñÑôÞóΓ₯Γ© ðßóù ôÑ 3d party games;
ÌÑΓͺÜñé Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßìÑé ëÜèïò ΓͺÑé Γ­Γ‘ ìçí áðÜñ÷Γ₯Γ© ôÝôïéï èÝìÑ

Γ‡ MS ìéëÑΓ₯Γ© ãéÑ ôÑ first-party ôçò(cross gen), Γ€Γ₯Γ­ ðéóôΓ₯áù ïôé ìðïñΓ₯Γ© Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ìðïÀéóΓ₯Γ© ôïáò 3rd ðÑñôá Γ­Γ‘ ΓͺÑíïáí ïôé Γ¨Γ₯ëïáí. ÄçëÑÀç ïðùò ΓͺÑé óôçí ðñïçãïáìΓ₯Γ­Γ§ Γ£Γ₯íéÑ ëïãéΓͺΓ‘ èÑ áðÑñ÷ïáí ΓͺÑé cross-gen ΓͺÑé next gen multiplatform games.

[Lefteris_X]

Ôï ðÑëéΓͺÜñé (o dev óôï ÒßíôΓ₯Γ―) ðÜíù-ΓͺÜôù ëÝΓ₯Γ© ΓΌΓ³Γ‘ Ý÷ïáìΓ₯ ÑíÑëýóΓ₯Γ© Γ₯Àþ ìÝóÑ Γ₯ãþ ΓͺÑé ΓͺÜðïéÑ ÜëëÑ ðÑéÀéÜ (Γ₯Γͺôüò ΓͺÜðïéùí ðïá Γ€Γ₯Γ­ Γ₯ßÀÑí üëï ôï ÒßíôΓ₯Γ― ÑëëÜ ÑðïóðÑóìÑôéΓͺÜ).

ÓçìΓ₯éþóôΓ₯: ãýñù óôï 24:53 ÑíÑâÝñΓ₯Γ© ôï ÐÏÓÏ óðÑóôéΓͺΓΌ, ÑíôéðÑñÑãùãéΓͺΓΌ Γ₯ßíÑé ôï BC ΓͺÑé Γ³Γ₯ ìðëïΓͺÜñΓ₯Γ© óôçí Ñðïññüâçóç ôçò íÝÑò Γ΄Γ₯÷íïëïãßÑò. "¼ôÑí Ý÷Γ₯éò íÝÑ Γ΄Γ₯÷íïëïãßÑ Γ¬Γ₯ Γ₯Γ«ΓͺáóôéΓͺüôÑôÑ íÝÑ ÷ÑñÑΓͺôçñéóôéΓͺÜ-ÀáíÑôüôçôΓ₯Γ², ôüôΓ₯ ΓΉΓ² developer Γ¨Γ₯Γ² Γ­Γ‘ ΓͺÑôÑðéÑóôΓ₯ßò/Γ₯ΓͺΓ¬Γ₯ôÑëëΓ₯áôΓ₯ßò ÑáôÜ ΓΌΓ³Γ― ôï ÀáíÑôü ðéï ãñÞãïñÑ. Áí üìùò Γ¨Γ₯Γ² Γ­Γ΄Γ₯ ΓͺÑé ΓͺÑëÜ ôï ðÑé÷íßÀé Γ³Γ―Γ΅ Γ­Γ‘ ôñÝ÷Γ₯Γ© ΓͺÑé óôï ðÑëÑéüôΓ₯Γ±Γ― ìç÷ÜíçìÑ, Γ₯ßóÑé ÑíÑãΓͺÑóìÝíïò Γ­Γ‘ ΓŒΓ‡Γ Ñó÷ïëçèΓ₯ßò ΓΌΓ³Γ― Γ¨Γ₯Γ² ΓͺÑé ìðïñΓ₯ßò Γ¬Γ₯ ôéò íÝΓ₯Γ² Γ΄Γ₯÷íïëïãßΓ₯Γ²."

Γ£ΓͺÝãΓͺΓ₯ ôþñÑ;
ÑáôÜ ðïá ΓͺÑôÑÀéΓͺÜæù Γ₯ðß Γ³Γ₯éñÜ Γ₯ôþí; (BC/FC ðïá Γ₯ßíÑé ôï ßÀéï ðñÜìÑôÑ, ÑðëÜ Γ§ ΓŒΓ“ ôï Γ³Γ₯ñÒßñΓ₯Γ© ìÝóù ìÜñΓͺΓ₯ôéíãΓͺ ôüóï "üìïñâÑ" ðïá Γ― Ñðëüò ΓͺïóìÜΓͺçò íïìßæΓ₯Γ© üôé Γ₯ßíÑé Àýï ÀéÑâïñΓ₯ôéΓͺÜ ðñÜãìÑôÑ. ΒΌΓ·Γ©, Γ₯ßíÑé ÝíÑ ΓͺÑé ìïíÑÀéΓͺΓΌ: BC).


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29:42
"If de-noising algorithms get better that can drastically reduce how many rays you actually have to shoot, and basically just means that everything will be "cheaper", meaning it takes less performance to actually achieve"

ÌΓ₯ôÜâñÑóç (Γ¬Γ₯ ÑðëÜ ëüãéÑ) : Γ₯Γ°Γ₯éÀÞ Γ―Γ© Γ₯Γ­ ëüãù Ñëãüñéèìïé (Γ―Γ© de-noising) ãßíïíôÑé ΓͺÑëýôΓ₯Γ±Γ―Γ©, Ñáôü óçìÑßíΓ₯Γ© üôé ìðïñïýìΓ₯ Γ­Γ‘ Γ°Γ₯ôý÷ïáìΓ₯ óôï raytracing ôï ßÀéï ÑðïôÝëΓ₯óìÑ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþíôÑò ëéãüôΓ₯Γ±Γ₯Γ² "Γ‘ΓͺôßíΓ₯Γ² âùôüò" (rays / paths), ÀçëÑÀÞ Γ¬Γ₯ ëéãüôΓ₯Γ±Γ― ÒÜñïò óôÑ ôóéðÜΓͺéÑ cpu/gpu ìðïñïýìΓ₯ Γ­Γ‘ Γ°Γ₯ôý÷ïáìΓ₯ ôï ßÀéï [raytrace] ÑðïôÝëΓ₯óìÑ".

Γ…Γ°ΓŸΓ³Γ§Γ²: "so this is something that will likely evolve over the course of the PS5 lifecycle as well"
ÌΓ₯ôÜâñÑóç: ΓΌΓ³Γ― Γ’Γ₯ëôéþíïíôÑé Γ―Γ© Γ₯Γ­ ëüãù Ñëãüñéèìïé ΓͺÑé Γ― deep ðñïãñÑììÑôéóìüò, èÑ ìðïñïýìΓ₯ Γ­Γ‘ Γ°Γ₯ôá÷ÑßíïáìΓ₯ ïëïÝíÑ ΓͺÑëýôΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ ÑðïôΓ₯ëÝóìÑôÑ óôï raytracing".
Γ„Γ§Γ«Γ‘Γ€Γž;
ΒΌΓ³Γ― Γ―Γ© 1st party (÷ÝóôΓ₯ ôïáò 3rd party, Ñáôïß Γ₯íÀéÑâÝñïíôÑé ìüíï ãéÑ âñÜãΓͺΓ‘ ΓΌΓ·Γ© Γ­Γ‘ ëéþíïáí óôïí ðñïãñÑììÑôéóìü ΓͺÑé Γ₯Γ�ÝëéΓ�Γ§) ìÑèÑßíïáí Γ‘Γͺüìç Γ°Γ₯ñéóóüôΓ₯Γ±Γ― ôï PS5, Γ₯Γ�Γ₯ëßóóïáí ôïáò Ñëãüñéèìïáò ΓͺÑé ðñïãñÑììÑôßæïáí Γ‘ΓͺüìÑ ðéï ΓͺïíôÜ-óôï-ìÝôÑëëï, ôüóï ΓͺÑëýôΓ₯Γ±Γ‘ ÑðïôΓ₯ëÝóìÑôÑ èÑ ÒëÝðΓ₯Γ΄Γ₯ óôï raytracing".
ÏáóéÑóôéΓͺÜ, Γ¬Γ₯ ôçí ðÜñïÀï ôïá Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ­Γ―Γ΅ ôï raytracing èÑ ãßíΓ₯ôÑé ΓͺÑëýôΓ₯Γ±Γ―. ÓÔÏ ÉÄÉÏ hardware.


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ãýñù óôï 31:40
"Ôï üôé ÑáΓ�ÜíïíôÑé Γ―Γ© ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ² Γ³Γ₯ ìéÑ CPU Γ€Γ₯Γ­ óçìÑßíΓ₯Γ© ÑáôüìÑôÑ üôé Ý÷Γ₯éò ÐÏËÕ ΓͺÑëýôΓ₯Γ±Γ₯Γ² Γ₯ðéÀüóΓ₯éò. Ôï Γ­Γ‘ ÑáΓ�ÞóΓ₯éò ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ², ôï Γ«Γ₯ãüìΓ₯Γ­Γ― parallel processing = ðÑñÜëëçëç Γ₯Γ°Γ₯Γ�Γ₯ñãÑóßÑ, Γ€Γ₯Γ­ óçìÑßíΓ₯Γ© üôé ìðïñΓ₯ßò Γ­Γ‘ óðÜóΓ₯éò ÁÑÔÉÁ ôïí ΓͺþÀéΓͺΓ‘ ΓͺÑé ÜñÑ ÑáôüìÑôÑ Ý÷Γ₯éò ÑíÜëïãç ÑýΓ�çóç ÑðüÀïóçò Γ¬Γ₯ ôï ðëÞèïò ôùí ðáñÞíùí ðïá ðñïóÝèΓ₯Γ³Γ₯Γ². Ááôü ðïá ðÑßæΓ₯Γ© ñüëï Γ₯ßíÑé Γ― ðáñÞíÑò Γ³Γ₯ ôé ôÑ÷ýôçôÑ ôñÝ÷Γ₯Γ©, ðüóï ãñÞãïñÑ ìðïñΓ₯ß Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ΓͺΓ΄Γ₯ëÝóΓ₯Γ© ìéÑ ðñÜΓ�Γ§ ÀçëÑÀÞ. 펄 GPU Ñðü ôçí Üëëç Γ¬Γ₯ñéÜ Γ₯ßíÑé ÝíÑ ôÝñÑò Γ³Γ₯ ðëÞèïò ðáñÞíùí, Γ―Γ© ïðïßïé üìùò Γ«Γ₯éôïáñãïýí ΓͺÑé ôïáò ðñïãñÑììÑôßæïáìΓ₯ ðïëý ÀéÑâïñΓ₯ôéΓͺÜ."

ΓͺÑé ðñïóèÝôΓ₯Γ© "üôÑí ΓͺÜíΓ₯éò offline raytracing, ôüôΓ₯ Γ―Γ© ðïëëïß ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ² ð÷. 32 Þ 64 ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ² íÑé, ðÑßæïáí ñüëï = ôï rendering ãßíΓ₯ôÑé ðïëý ãñÞãïñÑ"

óÑò ôï ΓͺÜíù ëéÑíÜ:

- online raytracing Γ₯ßíÑé Ñáôü ðïá ãßíΓ₯ôÑé real-time óôÑ ðÑé÷íßÀéÑ. Γ“Γ₯ ÑáôÞ ôçí Γ°Γ₯ñßðôùóç Ñí Ý÷Γ₯éò ìéÑ CPU Γ¬Γ₯ 16 ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ² ΓͺÑé Γ°Γ₯éò "Ñò ÒÜëù 32 ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ²" ôüôΓ₯ Γ€Γ₯Γ­ èÑ ðÜñΓ₯éò ôçí ÑíÜëïãç ÑýΓ�çóç ÀýíÑìçò +Γ₯Γ�ôñÑ 16 ðáñÞíùí.

- offline raytracing Γ₯ßíÑé ôÑ CGI ðïá âôéÜ÷íïáìΓ₯ ãéÑ ôçëΓ₯üñÑóç, Γ³Γ₯éñÝò, ΓͺéíçìÑôïãñÜâï. ÔÑ Γ³Γ·Γ₯ÀéÜæïáìΓ₯ ΓͺÑé âÑßíïíôÑé óôï Ñíèñþðéíï ìÜôé ðïëý ÜèëéÑ. ¼ôÑí Γ΄Γ₯Γ«Γ₯éþóïáìΓ₯ ôïí Γ³Γ·Γ₯ÀéÑóìü ôïáò ðÑôÜìΓ₯ ôï ΓͺïáìðÜΓͺΓ© "render" ΓͺÑé Γ°Γ₯ñéìÝíïáìΓ₯ ΓΎΓΉΓΉΓΉΓ±Γ₯Γ², ìÝΓ₯Γ₯Γ₯Γ₯Γ±Γ₯Γ², Γ₯ÒÀïìÜÑÑÑÀΓ₯Γ² ΓͺÑôÜ Γ°Γ₯ñßðôùóç ΓͺÑé ðÑñÑðÜíù (ìÞíΓ₯Γ²) ãéÑ Γ­Γ‘ Γ΄Γ₯Γ«Γ₯éþóΓ₯Γ© ôï render ΓͺÑé Γ­Γ‘ ìÑò ÀþóΓ₯Γ© ôï Γ΄Γ₯ëéΓͺΓΌ CGI-ìïá-ðÝâôïáí-ôÑ-óÑãüíéÑ ôï ïðïßï Γ₯ßíÑé Γ³Γ₯ ìïñâÞ ÂÉÍÔÅÏ. Γ…ΓͺΓ₯ß ΓΌΓ³Γ― ðñïóèÝôΓ₯éò ðáñÞíΓ₯Γ² (RAM, GPU, Γͺëð) ôüóï ëéãüôΓ₯Γ±Γ― Γ°Γ₯ñéìÝíΓ₯éò Γ­Γ‘ ãßíΓ₯Γ© ôï Γ΄Γ₯ëéΓͺΓΌ render. Γ„Γ§Γ«Γ‘Γ€Γž: ÄÅÍ ÑâïñÜ ôï offline raytracing ôÑ videogames.


ΓͺÑé ΓͺÜðïá Γ₯ΓͺΓ₯ß óôÑìÜôçóΓ₯ Γ§ ÑíÜëáóç óôï ÒßíôΓ₯Γ― ôïá ÓÝñíá, ëÝãïíôÑò üôé óôï Part 3 èÑ Ñó÷ïëçèΓ₯ß Γ¬Γ₯ Γ±Γ₯ýìÑôÑ ΓͺÑé üëÑ ôÑ áðüëïéðÑ ôïá ÒßíôΓ₯Γ―.

[Slay]

On top of all that, developers and publishers continue to praise the design of the PS5. Some have told GamesBeat that it has a better architecture than any console in history. So studios may find it a joy to work with.

https://venturebeat.com/2020/05/29/p...ne-4-showcase/

[Leon_DiZ]

Rumor: PS5 doesn't look like Xbox Series X, "very fat", almost twice as fat as PS4 Pro

This rumor comes from a Russian website about videogames GameMag which is popular in Russia. They got the info from "a specialist who's developing a popular American game which will be available on PS5 in the future".

- final design doesn't look like anything that has been leaked before
- PS5 has one unique detail, nobody talked about it because Sony most likely can track down the leaker if it actually leaks
- Sony didn't unveil all the secrets of PS5, they should announce at least one software feature - "it was briefly talked about in Western press but nobody paid enough attention"
- design-wise PS5 doesn't look like Xbox Series X at all nor does it look like a smart speaker. It's a traditional console: it's a flat, square, symmetrical box with rounded edges
- at the same time PS5 is "very fat", almost twice as fat as PS4 Pro

https://gamemag.ru/news/147024/plays...-5-leak-inside

Ôï ÒÜæù Γ­Γ‘ áðÜñ÷Γ₯Γ©, ÑëëÜ ìïá âÑßíΓ₯ôÑé ëßãï ÑðßèÑíï. ÌðïñΓ₯ß Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßìÑé ΓͺÑé in denial ÒÝÒÑéÑ ãéÑôß Γ€Γ₯Γ­ èÝëù Γ­Γ‘ âÑíôÑóôþ ΓͺÜôé ðïá Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßíÑé 2 âïñÝò ðéï ÷ïíôñü Ñðü ôï Pro

[tomic20]

Rumor: PS5 doesn't look like Xbox Series X, "very fat", almost twice as fat as PS4 Pro




https://gamemag.ru/news/147024/plays...-5-leak-inside

Ôï ÒÜæù Γ­Γ‘ áðÜñ÷Γ₯Γ©, ÑëëÜ ìïá âÑßíΓ₯ôÑé ëßãï ÑðßèÑíï. ÌðïñΓ₯ß Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßìÑé ΓͺÑé in denial ÒÝÒÑéÑ ãéÑôß Γ€Γ₯Γ­ èÝëù Γ­Γ‘ âÑíôÑóôþ ΓͺÜôé ðïá Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßíÑé 2 âïñÝò ðéï ÷ïíôñü Ñðü ôï Pro

But the console is very thick. It is almost twice as thick as the PlayStation 4 Pro .

Γ₯Γ¬Γ₯Γ­Γ‘ Ñáôï ìïá 񋄾Γ₯Γ© ôï google translate , Γ±ΓΎΓ³Γ©ΓͺΓ‘ ΓͺÑíΓ₯éò?

[Leon_DiZ]

But the console is very thick. It is almost twice as thick as the PlayStation 4 Pro .

Γ₯Γ¬Γ₯Γ­Γ‘ Ñáôï ìïá 񋄾Γ₯Γ© ôï google translate , Γ±ΓΎΓ³Γ©ΓͺΓ‘ ΓͺÑíΓ₯éò?

Ôï "thick" ΓͺÑé ôï "÷ïíôñü" ôÑ Γ₯ΓͺëÑìÒÜíù ΓΉΓ² ðéï "øçëü" óôçí ïáóßÑ, óÑí Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßíÑé 2 Pro ôï ÝíÑ ðÜíù óôï Üëëï.

[tomic20]

Ôï "thick" ΓͺÑé ôï "÷ïíôñü" ôÑ Γ₯ΓͺëÑìÒÜíù ΓΉΓ² ðéï "øçëü" óôçí ïáóßÑ, óÑí Γ­Γ‘ Γ₯ßíÑé 2 Pro ôï ÝíÑ ðÜíù óôï Üëëï.

ìëΓͺéÑ Γ₯ãñÑøÑ, Γ₯Γ·Γ₯éò ÀéΓͺéï

[Sir_Teraflop]

Γ‡ éóôïñßÑ èÑ ôï Γ€Γ₯ßΓ�Γ₯Γ© ÑëëÜ ΓͺÑéíïýñãéï Post megaton Ñðü ôïí AquariusZ óôï site ðïá ãñÜâΓ₯Γ©:

https://t.co/DnR8B6wjJl?amp=1

ÌΓ₯ôÜâñÑóç Ñðü ôïí Retired:

I saw this. Didn't translate cos the PTT folks don't like it.Re PS5, he said Sony could have stolen the thunder initially; A0 was under test from 2H'18. Apparently something very wrong; spent the entire 1H'19 salvaging. In the end, changed to C0 and started over during 2H'19.

ÌÜëëïí Γ₯ΓͺΓ₯ß Γ―ΓΆΓ₯ßëïíôÑé ôÑ üðïéÑ rumors ãéÑ ôçí Γ³Γ·Γ₯ÀßÑóç ΓͺÑé ôçí ΓΈΓ½Γ�Γ§ Γͺôë. ðïá ÑâïñïýóÑí óôçí ïáóßÑ ðñïÒëçìÑôéΓͺΓΌ ó÷ÝÀéï ΓͺïíóüëÑò ðïá "Γ΄Γ₯óôÑñéæüôÑí" ãéÑ launch ôï 2019.

Γ„Γ₯Γ­ Γ₯ß÷Γ₯ ΓͺÑíÝíÑ ëüãï Þ ΓͺþëáìÑ Γ§ Sony ãéÑ ôÑ 36 CU.

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