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    Ðñïúüíôá ôçò åðï÷Þò ôïõò åßíáé üëá.

    ¶ëëç åðï÷Þ ôï 2013 êáé Üëëç ôï 2020, for better or worse.

    ¼óï ãéá ôï milking, áðü åìÜò åîáñôÜôáé áí èá ôï åðéôñÝøïõìå Þ ü÷é.

    Ôï TLOU remaster èåùñþ üôé Ýöáãå ïëßãïí Üäéêï ðüëåìï ãéá ôçí åðï÷Þ ôïõ (ãéáôß êáé öôýóáíå áßìá íá îáíáãñÜøïõí low level êþäéêá êáé íá öôÜóïõí ôá 60 fps êáé Þôáí ïëïêëçñùìÝíï ðáêåôÜêé SP+MP). Èåùñþ üôé ôï value Þôáí êáëü ãéá ôçí ôéìÞ day 1.

    Ôþñá ôá ðñÜãìáôá Ý÷ïõí áëëÜîåé: ïýôå ñéæéêÞ áëëáãÞ óôçí ISA Ý÷ïõìå, ïýôå paradigm shift áðü Cell SPUs óå GPGPU, ïýôå âãÜæåé ïëïêëçñùìÝíá ðáêåôÜêéá ðëÝïí ç Sony (êé áò äçëþíåé üôé Ý÷åé êÜøá ãéá GaaS/MP).

    Ôï online MP ãéá üóïõò ôï Ý÷ïõí áðïñßá áêüìá Ý÷åé ëáü, äõóôõ÷þò êáôÜ 99% êáììåíßäéá tryhards max level (999). ÍÝï content ôïõ ëåßðåé, åîïý êáé ãéáôß ïé casuals ôçí êÜíïõí.

    Óõíåðþò hard pass áðü ìÝíá óå blatant cash grabs. Ïýôå hater åßìáé, ïýôå ôßðïôá. ÁãïñáóìÝíï óå PS3 êáé PS4 êáé 100% completion áìöüôåñá. 3ç öïñÜ, óüññõ, áëëÜ ü÷é, äåí èá õðÜñîåé.

    ×þñéá êéüëáò üôé åðåéäÞ ìéëÜìå ãéá remake èá öÜåé åðéðëÝïí ðüñïõò (ãéá ôá assets ëÝù)... åêåß äåí åßäá êáìßá áíçóõ÷ßá.

    Äåí ðåéñÜæåé, êÜðïéá óôéãìÞ èá ìðåé êáé PS+. Ôï story ôï îÝñïõìå, äåí ÷Üíïõìå êÜôé.

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    ÌÞðùò ëÝù êÜíïõíå êÜðïéá ìßîç multiplayer ìáæß ìå story üðùò öçìïëïãïýíôáí ..? Áí ãßíåé êÜôé ôÝôïéï èá åßíáé ôåëåßùò äéáöïñåôéêü . ÌÜëëïí ôï multiplayer ôïõ èá åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêü áðü ôï ðñþôï, áõôÞ ôçí åíôýðùóç Ý÷ù …


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    Multiplayer ìÜëëïí standalone, Üãíùóôçò ìïñöÞò üìùò.

    Ìðïñåß íá ìïéÜæåé ìå ôï ðáëéü Þ ìðïñåß íá åßíáé êÜðïéï BR flavor... áí äåí áñÝóåé óôïõò âåôåñÜíïõò, ëïãéêü èá åßíáé íá íïóôáëãÞóïõí ôï ðáëéü.

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    Ìïëéò ÷èåò ôåëåéùóá ê ãù ìå ôï TLOU part II ê å÷ù íá ðù ðùò áí áõôï ôï åðïò å÷åé öáåé ôåôïéï êñáîéìï åéëéêñéíá äåí ìðïñù íá ðù ìå ðïéá ëïãéêç óêåöôïíôáé êáðïéïé.

    Êáôáíïù èåìáôá ãïõóôïõ äåí ìðïñïõí íá áñåóïõí ïëá óå ïëïõò ÁËËÁ 5,7 óôï metacritic ñå ðáéäéá ?

    Ï÷é ïôé ìå íïéáæåé áëëá ìéëáìå ìïíï ê ìïíï áðï gameplay íá ôï äåéò ôï game åéíáé åíá áðéóôåõôï ðñáãìá.
    Ôá ãñáöéêá ôïõ äåí õðáñ÷ïõí ðñáãìáôéêá.Ôåôïéá ëåðôïìåñåéá áðï ôá ìïíôåëá ìå ôá ðåñéâáëëïíôá åéíáé áðï áëëï ðëáíçôç.
    Ç ìïõóéêç ôïõ óå êáíåé íá áíáôñé÷éáæåéò ê ôá ç÷çôéêá åöå öôéá÷íïõí ôçí áôìïóöáéñá ðïõ ðñåðåé.

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    ¸÷ù ôåëåéþóåé åäþ êáé áñêåôÝò ìÝñåò ôï ðáé÷íßäé.

    Íôáîåé ìéëÜìå ãéá ðáé÷íßäé óôáèìü. Animation, ÷áñáêôÞñåò, ãñáöéêÜ, diversity, storytelling. Äåí ðåñßìåíá óå êáìßá ðåñßðôùóç üôé èá ìïõ Üñåóå ôüóï ðïëý.
    Ôï ôåëåéþíåéò êáé Ý÷ïõí öôéÜîåé ïé ôýðïé êÜôé ôüóï óýíèåôï - óôïõò ÷áñáêôÞñåò, óôïí êüóìï, óôá ãñáöéêÜ...

    Ðáé÷íßäé óôáèìüò ãéá åìÝíá óå üëá ôïõ, ü,ôé êáé íá ðù åßíáé ëßãï.
    Íá ðù åäþ üôé ôï åß÷á ðÜñåé day 1 ìå pre-order ôçí special edition, üôáí üìùò êõêëïöüñçóå ôï 2020, Ýôõ÷å íá îåêéíÜù ôï Death Stranding åí ìÝóù êáñáíôßíáò êáé ìå êñÜôçóå ãéá ìÞíåò-åß÷á Üëëùóôå Üðåéñï backlog óôï PS4 Pro-. ¼ôáí ìÜëéóôá áñãüôåñá Þñèå ôï PS5 óôï óðßôé êáé Þèåëá íá ðáßîù ðéï "öñÝóêá" games, ôï LOU Part 2 îå÷Üóôçêå óôï ñÜöé. Áäéáíüçôï óöÜëìá!

    Åõôõ÷þò åß÷á ôç äéáâïëåìÝíç ôý÷ç íá ìç öÜù êáíÝíá óðüéëåñ, íá ìçí Ý÷ù äåé ôßðïôá êáé íá ìçí ìïõ Ý÷ïõí ðåé áðïëýôùò ôßðïôá ðñéí ôï áããßîù.
    Ôï Ýðáéîá óôï PS5 ìå ôï ôåëåõôáßï patch óå 4K ôçëåüñáóç êáé ç÷ïìðÜñá 9.1. Äåí ìðïñþ íá ðéóôÝøù üôé Üñãçóá ó÷åäüí 2 ÷ñüíéá íá ôï ðáßîù.

    Ðñéí áðü ìéóÞ þñá ôï ôåëåßùóá êáé ðñïóðáèþ áêüìç íá óõíÝëèù. Áñéóôïýñãçìá, öáíôáóôéêÞ ãñáöÞ êáé õðÝñï÷ç éóôïñßá, áðëÜ ÅÐÏÓ!

    Îåêßíçóá ðñéí áðü 1 1/2 åâäïìÜäá êáé ïñéáêÜ äåí ìðïñïýóá íá îåêïëëÞóù. ÌÜëéóôá, åßíáé ôþñá 4-5 çìÝñåò ðïõ Ý÷ù ÷Üóåé ôïí ýðíï ìïõ ôï âñÜäõ -ü÷é ìüíï áðü ôá îåíý÷ôéá ðïõ äåí ìðïñïýóá íá áöÞóù ôï ÷åéñéóôÞñéï êÜôù-, áëëÜ åðßóçò áðü ôçí Ýíôáóç ôá óõíáéóèÞìáôá ðïõ ìå êáôÝêëõæáí êÜèå ìÝñá.

    ÖÝôïò Ýãéíá 41 åôþí êáé áõôü ôï ðáé÷íßäé (áíÜèåìá êé áí åßíáé áðëÜ Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé) Þôáí ü,ôé ðéï óõãêëïíéóôéêü êáé ôñåëü Ý÷ù "æÞóåé" óôçí gaming æùÞ ìïõ. ¸íá áðüëõôï roller coaster óõíáéóèçìÜôùí. Óå ðëçãþíåé, óå äé÷Üæåé, óå ôóéôþíåé, óå ôåíôþíåé, óå åêðëÞóóåé, óå óõãêëïíßæåé... áðü ôï èõìü óôçí áãÜðç, áðü ôï ìßóïò óôï óðáñáãìü êáé ôá äÜêñõá.

    Ôï åßðå êáé ï Êþóôáò ðéï ðñéí, ìá åßíáé äõíáôüí íá Ý÷åé 5,7 áðü ôá reviews ÷ñçóôþí óôï Metacritic; ÄçëáäÞ, åíôÜîåé.
    Ï ïñéóìüò ôçò áíùñéìüôçôáò ôüóï hate êáé êáêéÝò âáèìïëïãßåò, åðåéäÞ äåí ôáßñéáîå óôá ãïýóôá êáé ôéò ðñïóäïêßåò ïñéóìÝíùí.

    Ðñéí ãñÜøù ó÷üëéá êáé êÜðïéá ðñÜãìáôá ãéá ôç äéêÞ ìïõ åìðåéñßá, ìðÞêá íá äéáâÜóù ôï thread åäþ êáé äåí óáò êñýâù üôé äéáâÜæïíôáò ôéò óåíôïíéÜäåò 2-3 óåëßäåò ðéï ðßóù áãáíÜêôçóá. ÊáôÜ ôç ãíþìç ìïõ áõôÝò ïé êïõâÝíôåò åßíáé êïììÜôé öéëïóïöéêÞò óõæÞôçóçò êáé ãéá ôïí êÜèå Üíèñùðï ç åñìçíåßá åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêÞ.

    Ãéá áõôü, Üëëùóôå êáé óôï ðáé÷íßäé (üðùò êáé óôç æùÞ), õðÜñ÷ïõí ïé êïéíùíéêÝò äéáêñßóåéò, ï ñáôóéóìüò, ï óåîïõáëéêüò ðñïóáíáôïëéóìüò êáé ïé óåîïõáëéêÝò ôáõôüôçôåò, ç ùìÞ âßá, ç åðéâßùóç, ç åêäßêçóç....ç áíèñþðéíç öýóç. Ìðïñïýìå íá ìéëÜìå êáé íá äéáöùíïýìå ãéá þñåò, êé åðåéäÞ åäþ åßíáé Ýíá thread ãéá Ýíá videogame, èá óõãêñáôçèþ êáé èá ìåßíù óå êÜðïéåò ëßãåò åíôõðþóåéò ãéá ôï ðáé÷íßäé.

    ¶ëëùóôå, ôá Ý÷ïõí ãñÜøåé ôá ðåñéóóüôåñá ðáéäéÜ óôéò 100+ óåëßäåò ôïõ thread.

    Åí êáôáêëåßäé:

    Ï êüóìïò, ïé ëåðôïìÝñåéåò óôï ðåñéâÜëëïí êáé ôá ãñáöéêÜ, åîùðñáãìáôéêÜ. Ôå÷íéêÜ Üñôéï.
    Ç ìïõóéêÞ åðÝíäõóç, ïé Þ÷ïé ôïõ ðåñéâÜëëïíôïò êáé ôï soundrack áóýëëçðôá. Ðéï immersive ðåèáßíåéò. Áíáôñé÷éÜæåéò óå êÜèå ãñáôæïýíéóìá ôùí ÷ïñäþí.
    Ôo gameplay áðüëõôá fluid êáé äéáóêåäáóôéêü, êÜíåéò áõôü ðïõ óêÝöôåóáé íá êÜíåéò êáé üëá ôáéñéÜæïõí ôÝëåéá êáé áðïëáõóôéêÜ óôïí êüóìï ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïý.
    Áí Ý÷åé êÜðïéåò áóôï÷ßåò êáé åëáôôþìáôá; Íáé, öõóéêÜ êáé Ý÷åé (ç éóôïñßá êáé ç ãñáöÞ ôùí ÷áñáêôÞñùí äå èá ôáéñéÜîïõí óå üëïõò.

    Áõôü üìùò äåí áíáéñåß üôé ùò êýêíåéï Üóìá ôïõ PS4, åßíáé ôñïìåñü åðßôåõãìá.

    Óôï ðñïóùðéêü ìïõ pedestral åß÷á ôá Witcher 3, ôá Mass Effect, ôï Death Stranding êáé ôá Metal Gear.
    Áäéáíüçôç åìðåéñßá. Ôï The Last of Us: Part 2 ìå óôéãìÜôéóå êáé èá ìïõ ðÜñåé êáéñü íá ôï îåðåñÜóù.

    Õðïêëßíïìáé óôçí Naughty Dog, ôïí Druckmann êáé üëç ôçí ïìÜäá ðïõ Ýãñáøå êáé Ýêáíå áõôÞí ôçí ðáñáãùãÞ.
    Èá Ýíéùèá êåíüò óáí gamer áí äåí ôï åß÷á æÞóåé.

    Ðáßîôå ôï. Hate it or Love it, áðëÜ âéþóôå ôï.

    Óáò áöÞíù ìå áõôÜ.
    (ðñïóðáèþ íá ìå ðåßóù íá ìçí ôï ðáßîù êáðÜêéá ÷á÷á)
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    Ôåëïò ìåôá áðï 25ùñåò. Ðïëõ ùñáéï ðáé÷íéäé áëëá ðïëõ êáôþôåñï áðï ôï ðñùôï last of us óå éóôïñßá êáé äåí âñÞêá ïýôå äÝóéìï ìå ôïõò ÷áñáêôÞñåò, êáôé ðïõ çôáí ðïëõ âáóéêü óôï ðñþôï game

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    Åéíáé óéãïõñá áðï ôá êáëýôåñá games ðïõ å÷ïõí êõêëïöïñÞóåé áëëá äåí èá ôï Ýëåãá ìå ôçí êáìßá ðáé÷íßäé ôïõ 10, óôï 7,5 ðñïò 8 èá ìïõ ðÞãáéíå ðåñéóóüôåñï


    Ìáëëïí áõôï çôáí êáé ôï ôåëåõôáßï game ðïõ ðáéñíù óôï ps4, åêôïò áí ìå ðéáóåé ç áíõðïìïíçóßá ìïõ êáé ðÜñù êáé ôï Tsushima. Ïëá ôá õðïëïéðá ðáíå ãéá ps5
    ¼ôé áêñéâþò ãñÜáöåé ï Snk ãéá ìÝíá.Ìüëéò ÷èåò ôï ôåëåßùóá êáé åãþ.¸÷ù äéáâÜóåé ðåñßðïõ 1000-1300ìíìôá èá óõíå÷ßóù íá äéáâÜæù ôï ôïðéê. ÌåñéêÝò óêÝøåéò. ÓõíïëéêÜ ãéá Ýíá áðü ôá êáëýôåñá ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ Ý÷ù ðáßîåé áëëÜ óßãïõñá áñêåôÜ êáôþôåñï áðü ôï ðñþôï óêïôåéíü TLOU.
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    Åýêïëá óôá ôïð ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ Ý÷ù ðáßîåé ðïôÝ óßãïõñá áðü ôá êáëýôåñá(?)ôçò ãåíéÜò(áðü áõôÜ ðïõ ÷ù ðáßîåé ðÜíôá),åêôüò ÷áñáêôÞñùí êáé ãéáõôü óôá ìÜôéá ìïõ åíþ ôï ðñþôï Þôáí óßãïõñá 11/10 áõôü Þôáí Ýíá ãÞéíï 8?8,5?9 ìáî óôá 10. ÊáèáñÜ üìùò ëüãù óåíáñéïõ êáé ü÷é ëüãù äïõëåéÜò. Áðü äïõëåéÜ êáé ðñïóðÜèåéá íá ÷ôßóïõí ôï óýìðáí ïé Üíèñùðïé ôçò ND ôï öôÜóáí óå 'åðßðåäï ×üëéãïõíô'.

    Edit:õðÜñ÷åé ëüãïò ðïõ üôáí ãñÜöù áðü pc ìïõ âãÜæåé áñ÷éêÜ áëáìðïõñíÝæéêá êáé óçìÜäéá; ôß Ý÷ù êÜíåé ëÜèïò;
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    Áðü èÝìá ãñáöéêþí/ôå÷íïëïãßáò ôï TLOU2 åßíáé áíôéêåéìåíéêÜ üôé êáëýôåñï õðÜñ÷åé óå PS4. Ôï êáëýôåñï 1st party/exclusive open world (äçëáäÞ ôï HZD1) äåí ìðïñåß íá óõãêñéèåß ìå ôï êáëýôåñï 1st party/exclusive linear game (äçëáäÞ ôï TLOU2).

    Äåí èá ìáêñçãïñÞóù, áëëÜ åßíáé ãíùóôü óå üóïõò ôï Ý÷ïõí øÜîåé ãéáôß ôá open world ÷Üíïõí (Ýóôù êáé ëßãï) óå ãñáöéêÜ óõãêñéôéêÜ ìå ôá linear games.

    Ôþñá ãéá ôçí Abby, åãþ ôçí âñÞêá áñêåôÜ êáëïãñáììÝíï ÷áñáêôÞñá. ¼÷é üôé ìïõ áñÝóïõí ôÝôïéåò ãõíáßêåò óôçí ðñáãìáôéêÞ æùÞ (êáìßá ó÷Ýóç, Ý÷ù Üëëï ãïýóôï), áëëÜ ãåíéêÜ ü,ôé óõìâáßíåé äéêáéïëïãåßôáé ìå âÜóç ôï lore (ð.÷. ôá ìïýóêïõëá). Äåí åßíáé üôé áðëÜ ôßêáñå Ýíá êïõôÜêé (androgynous design) üðùò óõìâáßíåé óå Üëëá ðáé÷íßäéá ðïõ ðïôÝ äåí åîçãïýí ãéáôß åßíáé Ýôóé ç ðñùôáãùíßóôñéá.

    ÊÜôé áêüìá ðïõ åß÷å áíáöåñèåß ðåñß Joel...

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    ¼óï ãéá ôá óõíáéóèÞìáôá, èá ìéëÞóù ãéá ôïí åáõôü ìïõ ðñïóùðéêÜ: íáé, ôï ðáé÷íßäé åßíáé üíôùò Ýíá rollercoaster óõíáéóèçìÜôùí. Ôï Ý÷ù îáíáðåß üôé óå êñáôÜåé óôçí ôóßôá, áó÷Ýôùò áí óõìöùíåßò/äéáöùíåßò. Äýóêïëá èá âáñåèåßò Þ èá ðåéò Üíôå íá êÜíù skip.

    ÁëëÜ äåí åßìáé Üíèñùðïò ðïõ ìå åðçñåÜæåé óôçí ðñáãìáôéêÞ æùÞ, ãéáôß îÝñù üôé åßíáé êÜôé öôéá÷ôü/åéêïíéêü/ôçò öáíôáóßáò... ü,ôé êáé íá óõìâáßíåé óôçí digital æùÞ (fora, video games, ôáéíßåò), ãéá ìÝíá üëá ôåëåéþíïõí åêåß ìüëéò êëåßóù ôïí browser Þ ôçí êïíóüëá. Ãéá ìÝíá îáíáëÝù, äåí ìðïñþ, ïýôå èÝëù íá ìéëÞóù ãéá Üëëïõò.

    Ïðüôå íáé, ãéá ìÝíá ðñáãìáôéêÞ/physical vs åéêïíéêÞ/digital æùÞ åßíáé áõóôçñÜ êáé áìåôÜêëçôá "sandboxed" üðùò ôï ëÝìå óôçí ÐëçñïöïñéêÞ (âë. virtualization). Äåí èÝëù ïýôå êáí "overlap" íá õðÜñ÷åé. Äåí ôï äéáðñáãìáôåýïìáé áõôü êáé äåí áöÞíù êáíÝíá óõíáßóèçìá ôçò óôéãìÞò íá ìå åðçñåÜóåé áñíçôéêÜ (ð.÷. äåí ðá íá ìå âñßæåé êÜðïéïò äéáäéêôõáêüò Üãíùóôïò, ôåëåéþíïõí üëá óôï digital êïììÜôé êáé äåí ðåñíÜåé ðïôÝ óôï physical). Ìéá ÷áñÜ èá êïéìçèþ ôï âñÜäõ, óéãÜ ìçí ÷Üóù êáé ôïí ýðíï ìïõ! Íá ÷Üóù ôïí ýðíï ìïõ ãéá êáìßá ãêüìåíá (ðïõ ðñïöáíþò êáé Ý÷ù ãíùñéóôåß/ó÷åôéóôåß óôçí ðñáãìáôéêÞ æùÞ), åêåß ôï óõæçôÜìå (ðïõ êé åêåß ëÜèïò ôï âñßóêù ìåñéêÝò öïñÝò, áëëÜ Üíèñùðïé/Üíôñåò åßìáóôå!).

    Äåí ëÝù üôé åßìáé åãþ ï óùóôüò êáé ïé Üëëïé ëÜèïò, but that's just me! Ìïõ ðñïóöÝñåé peace of mind êáé ëéãüôåñá íåýñá.
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    Íáé åßìáé ðáíôåëþò Üó÷åôïò áðü ôå÷íéêÜ, ßóùò íá Ý÷áóá êáé ëåðôïìÝñåéåò óôá ïðïßá öáíôÜæïìáé ôï tlou2åéíáé ôåñÜóôéá áíþôåñï êáé Üñá êáëýôåñï êáé áðëÜ ßóùò íá ìå êÝñäéóáí ôá ÷ñþìáôá. Åßíáé êáèáñÜ äéêÞ ìïõ áíôßëçøç ðéèáíüôáôá(åðßóçò ìå åíèïõóßáóå ç Áëüç ).

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    Íá ðù åäþ üôé ôï åß÷á ðÜñåé day 1 ìå pre-order ôçí special edition, üôáí üìùò êõêëïöüñçóå ôï 2020, Ýôõ÷å íá îåêéíÜù ôï Death Stranding åí ìÝóù êáñáíôßíáò êáé ìå êñÜôçóå ãéá ìÞíåò-åß÷á Üëëùóôå Üðåéñï backlog óôï PS4 Pro-. ¼ôáí ìÜëéóôá áñãüôåñá Þñèå ôï PS5 óôï óðßôé êáé Þèåëá íá ðáßîù ðéï "öñÝóêá" games, ôï LOU Part 2 îå÷Üóôçêå óôï ñÜöé. Áäéáíüçôï óöÜëìá!

    Åõôõ÷þò åß÷á ôç äéáâïëåìÝíç ôý÷ç íá ìç öÜù êáíÝíá óðüéëåñ, íá ìçí Ý÷ù äåé ôßðïôá êáé íá ìçí ìïõ Ý÷ïõí ðåé áðïëýôùò ôßðïôá ðñéí ôï áããßîù.
    Ôï Ýðáéîá óôï PS5 ìå ôï ôåëåõôáßï patch óå 4K ôçëåüñáóç êáé ç÷ïìðÜñá 9.1. Äåí ìðïñþ íá ðéóôÝøù üôé Üñãçóá ó÷åäüí 2 ÷ñüíéá íá ôï ðáßîù.

    Ðñéí áðü ìéóÞ þñá ôï ôåëåßùóá êáé ðñïóðáèþ áêüìç íá óõíÝëèù. Áñéóôïýñãçìá, öáíôáóôéêÞ ãñáöÞ êáé õðÝñï÷ç éóôïñßá, áðëÜ ÅÐÏÓ!

    Îåêßíçóá ðñéí áðü 1 1/2 åâäïìÜäá êáé ïñéáêÜ äåí ìðïñïýóá íá îåêïëëÞóù. ÌÜëéóôá, åßíáé ôþñá 4-5 çìÝñåò ðïõ Ý÷ù ÷Üóåé ôïí ýðíï ìïõ ôï âñÜäõ -ü÷é ìüíï áðü ôá îåíý÷ôéá ðïõ äåí ìðïñïýóá íá áöÞóù ôï ÷åéñéóôÞñéï êÜôù-, áëëÜ åðßóçò áðü ôçí Ýíôáóç ôá óõíáéóèÞìáôá ðïõ ìå êáôÝêëõæáí êÜèå ìÝñá.

    ÖÝôïò Ýãéíá 41 åôþí êáé áõôü ôï ðáé÷íßäé (áíÜèåìá êé áí åßíáé áðëÜ Ýíá ðáé÷íßäé) Þôáí ü,ôé ðéï óõãêëïíéóôéêü êáé ôñåëü Ý÷ù "æÞóåé" óôçí gaming æùÞ ìïõ. ¸íá áðüëõôï roller coaster óõíáéóèçìÜôùí. Óå ðëçãþíåé, óå äé÷Üæåé, óå ôóéôþíåé, óå ôåíôþíåé, óå åêðëÞóóåé, óå óõãêëïíßæåé... áðü ôï èõìü óôçí áãÜðç, áðü ôï ìßóïò óôï óðáñáãìü êáé ôá äÜêñõá.

    Ôï åßðå êáé ï Êþóôáò ðéï ðñéí, ìá åßíáé äõíáôüí íá Ý÷åé 5,7 áðü ôá reviews ÷ñçóôþí óôï Metacritic; ÄçëáäÞ, åíôÜîåé.
    Ï ïñéóìüò ôçò áíùñéìüôçôáò ôüóï hate êáé êáêéÝò âáèìïëïãßåò, åðåéäÞ äåí ôáßñéáîå óôá ãïýóôá êáé ôéò ðñïóäïêßåò ïñéóìÝíùí.

    Ðñéí ãñÜøù ó÷üëéá êáé êÜðïéá ðñÜãìáôá ãéá ôç äéêÞ ìïõ åìðåéñßá, ìðÞêá íá äéáâÜóù ôï thread åäþ êáé äåí óáò êñýâù üôé äéáâÜæïíôáò ôéò óåíôïíéÜäåò 2-3 óåëßäåò ðéï ðßóù áãáíÜêôçóá. ÊáôÜ ôç ãíþìç ìïõ áõôÝò ïé êïõâÝíôåò åßíáé êïììÜôé öéëïóïöéêÞò óõæÞôçóçò êáé ãéá ôïí êÜèå Üíèñùðï ç åñìçíåßá åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêÞ.

    Ãéá áõôü, Üëëùóôå êáé óôï ðáé÷íßäé (üðùò êáé óôç æùÞ), õðÜñ÷ïõí ïé êïéíùíéêÝò äéáêñßóåéò, ï ñáôóéóìüò, ï óåîïõáëéêüò ðñïóáíáôïëéóìüò êáé ïé óåîïõáëéêÝò ôáõôüôçôåò, ç ùìÞ âßá, ç åðéâßùóç, ç åêäßêçóç....ç áíèñþðéíç öýóç. Ìðïñïýìå íá ìéëÜìå êáé íá äéáöùíïýìå ãéá þñåò, êé åðåéäÞ åäþ åßíáé Ýíá thread ãéá Ýíá videogame, èá óõãêñáôçèþ êáé èá ìåßíù óå êÜðïéåò ëßãåò åíôõðþóåéò ãéá ôï ðáé÷íßäé.

    ¶ëëùóôå, ôá Ý÷ïõí ãñÜøåé ôá ðåñéóóüôåñá ðáéäéÜ óôéò 100+ óåëßäåò ôïõ thread.

    Åí êáôáêëåßäé:

    Ï êüóìïò, ïé ëåðôïìÝñåéåò óôï ðåñéâÜëëïí êáé ôá ãñáöéêÜ, åîùðñáãìáôéêÜ. Ôå÷íéêÜ Üñôéï.
    Ç ìïõóéêÞ åðÝíäõóç, ïé Þ÷ïé ôïõ ðåñéâÜëëïíôïò êáé ôï soundrack áóýëëçðôá. Ðéï immersive ðåèáßíåéò. Áíáôñé÷éÜæåéò óå êÜèå ãñáôæïýíéóìá ôùí ÷ïñäþí.
    Ôo gameplay áðüëõôá fluid êáé äéáóêåäáóôéêü, êÜíåéò áõôü ðïõ óêÝöôåóáé íá êÜíåéò êáé üëá ôáéñéÜæïõí ôÝëåéá êáé áðïëáõóôéêÜ óôïí êüóìï ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïý.
    Áí Ý÷åé êÜðïéåò áóôï÷ßåò êáé åëáôôþìáôá; Íáé, öõóéêÜ êáé Ý÷åé (ç éóôïñßá êáé ç ãñáöÞ ôùí ÷áñáêôÞñùí äå èá ôáéñéÜîïõí óå üëïõò.

    Áõôü üìùò äåí áíáéñåß üôé ùò êýêíåéï Üóìá ôïõ PS4, åßíáé ôñïìåñü åðßôåõãìá.

    Óôï ðñïóùðéêü ìïõ pedestral åß÷á ôá Witcher 3, ôá Mass Effect, ôï Death Stranding êáé ôá Metal Gear.
    Áäéáíüçôç åìðåéñßá. Ôï The Last of Us: Part 2 ìå óôéãìÜôéóå êáé èá ìïõ ðÜñåé êáéñü íá ôï îåðåñÜóù.

    Õðïêëßíïìáé óôçí Naughty Dog, ôïí Druckmann êáé üëç ôçí ïìÜäá ðïõ Ýãñáøå êáé Ýêáíå áõôÞí ôçí ðáñáãùãÞ.
    Èá Ýíéùèá êåíüò óáí gamer áí äåí ôï åß÷á æÞóåé.

    Ðáßîôå ôï. Hate it or Love it, áðëÜ âéþóôå ôï.

    Óáò áöÞíù ìå áõôÜ.
    (ðñïóðáèþ íá ìå ðåßóù íá ìçí ôï ðáßîù êáðÜêéá ÷á÷á)
    Åé÷á ëïãï ðïõ óïõ åóôåéëá ïôáí åðáéæåò êáèùò ãéá åìåíá çôáí åìðåéñéá ê óå æçëåõá ðïõ ôï "æïõóåò" ê åóõ ãéá ðñùôç öïñá áëëá ê ãéá íá áêïõóù ôçí ãíùìç óïõ öõóéêá !!!

    Áí äåí åé÷á ôïóï ìåãáëï backlog èá äïêéìáæá áëëç ìéá öïñá óå áíùôåñï åðéðåäï äõóêïëéáò åéëéêñéíá. Ðïéïò;;; åãù ðïõ ïôáí ðáéæù êáôé ôï áöçíù óôçí áêñç ê óõíå÷éæù ðáñ'ïëá áõôç ç åìðåéñéá ìå óôéãìáôéóå ôïóï ðïõ áí åé÷á ôçí åðéëïãç èá åëåãá óôçí Naughty Dog íá óõíå÷éóåé ìå ôï 3ï ìåñïò ôçò óåéñáò...

    Ðñïóùðéêá åêíåõñéæïìáé ìå ôéò íååò ìïäåò ê ïôé å÷åé íá êáíåé ìå SJWs êëð áëëá åäù äåí åéäá êáôé ôï ôñáãéêï Þ êáôé ðïõ äåí ãíùñéæáìå áðï ôï 1ï ìåñïò.
    Ìç ôñåëáèïõìå ôåëåéùò. Áêïìá ê åôóé ïìùò áí äåé êáðïéïò ôïõò ìç÷áíéóìïõò ê ôï gameplay ìïíï ìðïñåé íá êáôáëáâåé ãéá ôçí ðïéïôçôá ê ôá õøçëá standards ðïõ å÷åé öôéá÷ôåé.

    Õðáñ÷ïõí ðïëëá gameplay óôï youtube ìå ðáéêôåò ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéïõí ôï 100% ôùí äõíáôïôçôùí ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïõ ê êáôáëáâáéíåéò ôé ìç÷áíéóìïõò ê ôé åðéëïãåò äéíåé óôïí ðáéêôç.
    Add me !
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    ÔåëéêÜ, ôÝëïò ãéá 2ç öïñÜ êáðÜêéá êáé ðÞñá êáé ôçí ðëáôßíá.
    Áí êáé îåêßíçóá ìå ôçí ðñïóäïêßá íá ôï ïëïêëçñþóù óôï Grounded, ðïëý ãñÞãïñá äéáðßóôùóá üôé äå èá åß÷á ôçí õðïìïíÞ êáé åðéìïíÞ íá äéá÷åéñéóôþ ôç äõóêïëßá óå back-to-back playthrough.
    Åí ôÝëåé êé åðåéäÞ ìïõ Ýëåéðáí ìéêñÜ collectibles ó÷åäüí óå üëá ôá chapters (áíáèåìáôéóìÝíá coins!) ôåëéêÜ ôï ðÞãá ìÝ÷ñé ôÝëïõò.

    Ôï êáëü åßíáé üôé, ðëÝïí, áðáëëáãìÝíïò áðü ôï Üã÷ïò ôçò ðñþôçò öïñÜò ãéá ôï ôé êáñáäïêåß óôç ãùíßá êáé ãíùñßæïíôáò ðÜíù-êÜôù ðïõ êëéìáêþíïíôáé ïé ìÜ÷åò êáé ïé Ýíôïíåò óôéãìÝò, ðÞñá ôï ÷ñüíï ìïõ íá áðïëáýóù ôá ôïðßá êáé ôïí êüóìï ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïý. Óôï 2ï playthrough ôñáâïýóá êáé ðåñéóóüôåñá screenshots ãéáôß åíôõðùóéáæüìïõí áðü ôçí áôìüóöáéñá.

    ÐñáãìáôéêÜ åßíáé ðáíÝìïñöï ðáé÷íßäé êáé áí áöåèåßò óå áðïññïöÜ ðëÞñùò.

    ¼óï ãéá ôï óôüñé, åßíáé óõíïëéêÜ êÜðïéåò óôéãìÝò ðÝñá áðü ôéò ìÜ÷åò (áíáöÝñïìáé êõñßùò óôá story sections êáé óôá sequences ðïõ ðñï÷ùñÜåé ôï lore ôùí ÷áñáêôÞñùí) üðïõ ðñáãìáôéêÜ ôá óõíáéóèÞìáôá ìå ÷ôõðïýóáí óáí ñåýìá, ðáñüëï ðïõ ðëÝïí ìïõ Þôáí ãíþñéìï êáé Þîåñá ôé èá óõìâåß. ºóùò âéþíïíôÜò ôéò ãéá 2ç öïñÜ ìå ðéï øý÷ñáéìç ìáôéÜ, Þôáí ðéï âáèýò ï ôñüðïò ðïõ åéóÝðñáîá êáé áðïññüöçóá ôï óõíáßóèçìá.
    Ãéá áõôïýò ôïõò ëüãïõò åêôßìçóá ôçí éóôïñßá áêüìç ðåñéóóüôåñï óôï 2ï playthrough.

    Ãéá ðáñÜäåéãìá, áíáöÝñù ìåñéêÜ óçìåßá ðïõ åìÝíá ðñïóùðéêÜ ìå ãïíÜôéóáí øõ÷éêÜ êáé óõíáéóèçìáôéêÜ (åííïåßôáé spoilers ìçí ôï áíïßîåôå áí äåí ôï Ý÷åôå ðáßîåé)

    Spoiler!


    ÁõôÜ ôá ëßãá, êÜðïéá óôéãìÞ óßãïõñá èá ôï ðáßîù îáíÜ ãéá íá ôï "êáôáêôÞóù" óôç Grounded äõóêïëßá êáé ðñáãìáôéêÜ èá ìå ÷áñïðïéïýóå ðïëý íá õðÜñîåé êÜðïéï íÝï êåöÜëáéï óôïí êüóìï ôïõ Last of Us áðü ôç Naughty Dog.

    Óßãïõñá ðñïôåßíù üðïéïò åßíáé êÜôï÷ïò ôçò êïíóüëáò íá ôï ðáßîåé.
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    Áêñéâþò ïðùò ôá ëåò öéëå.
    Ãåíéêá ôï ðáé÷íéäé åéíáé Óáôáíéêá êáëïöôéáãìÝíï óåíáñéáêÜ ðïõ ôï êáôáëáâáßíåéò óôï äåõôåñï êáé ( áí êáíåéò áêïìá êáé óôï 3 play through)

    Éäéáéôåñá áí óïõ áñåóïõí áõôïõ ôïõ åéäïõò ðáé÷íéäéá åéíáé oscaréêï èá åëåãá .
    Áðï gameplay , ç÷ï, ãñáöéêá .. áðéóôåõôï .

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    We¢re happy to share that The Last of Us Part II has sold through more than 10 million copies globally, as of this Spring.
    https://blog.playstation.com/2022/06...he-last-of-us/
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    Äåí èá ìðïñïýóá íá óõìöùíÞóù ðåñéóóüôåñï ìå ôïí val. Áðßóôåõôï ðáé÷íßäé êáé ôþñá ìå ôá 60fps ðñáãìáôéêÜ áðïãåéþèçêå!!

    ÌåãÜëç êïõâÝíôá áëëÜ ßóùò ãéá åìÝíá íá åßíáé best life game êáé áõôü ãéáôß êáôÜöåñå íá "äÝóåé" ìáæß åêôüò áðü ôá õðÝñï÷á ãñáöéêÜ/Þ÷ï êáé ôï ðñùôïöáíÝò óå ëåðôïìÝñåéåò êáé ìç÷áíéóìïýò gameplay êáé ôçí éóôïñßá ìå ôï óõíáßóèçìá.

    Åßíáé äõíáôüí íá ìçí èÝëù íá ìðù óôï õðüãåéï ïôáí øÜ÷íù ôïí Joel óôçí áñ÷Þ ôïõ ðáé÷íéäéïý?

    Åßíáé äõíáôüí üôáí ðáßæù ìå ôçí Ellie íá ìéóþ ôçí Abby êáé üôáí ðáßæù ìå ôçí Abby íá ìéóþ ôçí Ellie?

    ÐïôÝ êáé ìå êáíÝíá ðáé÷íßäé äåí Ý÷ù íéþóåé ðáñüìïéá óõíáéóèÞìáôá êáé ùò ãíùóôüí üôáí ôï óõíáßóèçìá áíáêáôåýåôå êáé ôéò õðüëïéðåò áéóèÞóåéò ôï áðïôÝëåóìá ðïëëáðëáóéáæåôáé...
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    Åßíáé äõíáôüí ÁÕÔÏ ôï ðáé÷íßäé íá ìçí åßíáé üôé êáëýôåñï Ý÷ù ðáßîåé óôçí æùÞ ìïõ?

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    Ïé Üíèñùðïé äåí óôáìáôïýí íá ðáßæïõíå åðåéäÞ ãåñíÜíå.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modecris View Post
    Ôñßôç öïñÜ ðïõ ôï ðáßæù...
    Ôñßôç öïñÜ ðïõ ìå óïêÜñåé ôï âëÝììá ôçò Ellie üôáí ìáèåíåé ðùò ï Joel äåí Ý÷åé äþóåé óçìåßá æùÞò...
    Ôñßôç öïñÜ ðïõ äåí èÝëù íá ìðù óôï õðüãåéï...

    Åßíáé äõíáôüí ÁÕÔÏ ôï ðáé÷íßäé íá ìçí åßíáé üôé êáëýôåñï Ý÷ù ðáßîåé óôçí æùÞ ìïõ?
    Ðïóï áëçèåéá... áëëá ãéá íá åéìáé åéëéêñéíåéò,

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    ÔÝôïéá äéáâÜæù êáé Ýôïéìïò åßìáé ãéá 3ï playthrough!!! Áí êáé ôþñá øÞíïìáé ãéá 2ï óôï Cyberpunk íá ôï äù êáé ìå ôï PS5 upgrade
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    Åßìáé ðïëý ðåñßåñãïò êáé óõíÜìá áíÞóõ÷ïò ãéá ôï ðïéï èá åßíáé ôï "ìåãÜëï" åðüìåíï ðáé÷íßäé ôçò ND.
    Åííïþ öõóéêÜ AAA single movie-style ðáé÷íßäé.

    Åßôå åßíáé ðéï êïéíùíéêÞò öýóåùò (ìå äñÜóç öõóéêÜ) üðùò ôï LoU, åßôå ðñüêåéôáé ãéá action-adventure áëÜ Uncharted, åßôå åßíáé êÜôé Üëëï.

    ¸÷ù ðåñéÝñãåéá, äçëáäÞ ðïéï èá åßíáé ôï genre ðïõ èá åðéëÝîåé ç ND.

    ¸÷ù üìùò êáé "áíçóõ÷ßá" ãéáôß ç ìáìÜ-Óüíõ ðéÝæåé ðïëý ãéá online-multi êáôáóôÜóåéò êáé live services..........ðïõ äåí Ý÷ïõí ÁÐÏËÕÔÙÓ êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçí ãåíéêüôåñç öéëïóïößá ôçò ND.

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    ^^ Aöïõ çäç áó÷ïëïõíôáé ìå åíá multiplayer, öáíôáæïìáé ïôé ôï áëëï ðáé÷íéäé ðïõ å÷ïõí óôá óêáñéá óéãïõñá èá åéíáé single player êáé éóùò íá ðñïóöåñåé êáé multiplayer óå äåõôåñï ñïëï Þ óå öáóç Uncharted. Ãéáôé öáíôáæïìáé ïôé ìå ôï TLOU Multiplayer ðïõ èá êõêëïöïñçóïõí êáé äéáôõìðáíéæïõí óáí åíá ôåñáóôéï ãé áõôïõò (êáé óõíåðùò ôçí Óïíõ) project, äå èá åéíáé êáëï ãé áõôïõò ôï åðïìåíï ÁÁÁ project ôïõò íá åéíáé êáé áõôï multiplayer only. Èá åéíáé óáí íá âáæïõí ëéãï ôñéêëïðïäéá óôïí åáõôï ôïõò.

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    çèåëá íá ðéóôåõù ïôé óôá gameawards èá áíáêïéíùèåé ôï íåï ðáé÷íéäé ôçò nd, áëëá ìå ôï íåï factions íá ðçãáéíåé ãéá ôï 23 ìáëëïí ðáëé ìå insomniac èá ôç âãáëïõìå.
    ãåíéêá ðïëõ çóõ÷éá áðï ôç sony, Áí åîáéñåóåéò ôçí insomniac êáé ìå ôç óáíôá ìïíéêá çäç íá äïõëåõåé êáé óôï åðïìåíï ðáé÷íéäé ìåôá ôï gow, íïìéæù ïôé äå îåñïõìå ôéðïôá ãéá ôéò åðïìåíåò êõêëïöïñéåò ôçò.
    êáðïéá óôéãìç èá êáíïõí åíá ìåãáëï showcase ðïõ èá ÷áëáóåé êïóìï.

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    ÐñïóùðéêÞ ìïõ ðñüâëåøç üôé
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    Ðñåðåé íá äïõìå êáé êáôé êáéíïõñãéï ïìùò áðï ôçí Naughty Dog êáðïéá óôéãìç ëéáí óõíôïìùò äçëáäç...

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