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    Ãéá åìåíá Joel çôáí ðáíôá ï Hugh Jackman . öôáéåé êáé ôï Prisoners âåâáéá ðïõ ïôáí ôï åé÷á äåé çôáí êïíôá ìå ôï TLOU1 êáé ëåù ùðá íáôïò ï Ôæïåë.

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    Ãéá üóïõò øÞíïíôáé íá äéáâÜóïõí deep tech info ðåñß TLOU2 optimization (ðùò îåæïýìéóáí ôï OG PS4 óáðÜêé):

    NAUGHTY DOG AT SIGGRAPH 2020

    https://www.naughtydog.com/blog/naug..._siggraph_2020

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    Äåí îÝñù ðüóïé ôá «îåêïêÜëéóáí» åí ôÝëåé, áëëÜ ìéëÜìå äåí Ý÷ù îáíáäåß ôÝôïéï îåæïýìéóìá ôçò GCN áñ÷éôåêôïíéêÞò.

    ÐñïóåêôéêÜ ãñáììÝíïò êþäéêáò (compute shaders) ðïõ ëáìâÜíåé õðüøéí ôïõ üëåò ôéò éäéáéôåñüôçôåò ôçò GCN (áðü registers ìÝ÷ñé L2 cache) êáé ðñïóðáèåß íá êÜíåé offload üóá ðåñéóóüôåñá ðñÜãìáôá ìðïñåß áðü ôçí Jaguar CPU óôçí GCN GPGPU (öÜóç offload RSX tasks -> Cell SPUs).

    ÐëÞñåò occupancy ôçò GPGPU -> üëåò ïé õðïìïíÜäåò ôïõ OG PS4 (18 CUs x 64 ALUs = 1152 ALUs) äïõëåýïõí óôï öïõë ìå Asynchronous Compute óáí êáëïêïõñäéóìÝíç ïñ÷Þóôñá! Áêñéâþò üðùò öïõëÜñáíå êáé ôá 6 SPUs óôï Uncharted 2 ìå äéÜöïñá jobs.

    ¼ëá áõôÜ ôá ìáãéêÜ äåí èá ìðïñïýóáí íá ãßíïõí ÷ùñßò ôï GNM API êáé fixed/predictable hardware. Åßíáé êáé ï ëüãïò ðïõ ç Sony Ý÷åé äéáöïñåôéêÞ (ðåñéóóüôåñï hardware-based) ðñïóÝããéóç/öéëïóïößá óôï Backwards Compatibility (âë. ìáôóÜñéóìá CU count ùò ðïëëáðëÜóéï ôùí 2) ðïõ äåí èõìßæåé PC (ðáñÜ ôï AMD hardware), áëëÜ Üëëá ðéï åîùôéêÜ óõóôÞìáôá.

    Ôï èåùñþ ìÝãéóôç ýâñç íá äéáäßäïíôáé áíáêñßâåéåò áðü armchair engineers/devs üôé "optimization" åßíáé ôï êüøå-ñÜøå gfx settings (óôõë CP2077 êáé ãåíéêÜ ôá ðåñéóóüôåñá 3rd party/multiplatform). Old school optimization = custom/tailored êþäéêáò. ÏôéäÞðïôå Üëëï äåí áðïôåëåß optimization, áëëÜ tweaking ìå sliders.

    Ç ND Ýèåóå Ýíá óõãêåêñéìÝíï target (1080p 30 fps / 33,33ms rendering budget per frame) êáé ôïõò âãÞêå ï ðÜôïò íá ãñÜøïõí uber optimized êþäéêá ðÜíù óå áõôü ôï target. ¼÷é ìüíï äåí êüøáíå settings, áëëÜ óå ìåñéêÝò ðåñéðôþóåéò ëüãù Ýîõðíïõ optimization êáôáöÝñáíå íá áíåâÜóïõí ÊÁÉ ôçí ðïéüôçôá rendering ÊÁÉ ôçí áðüäïóç.

    Respect ãéá Üëëç ìéá öïñÜ óôïõò ðñïãñáììáôéóôáñÜäåò ðïõ Ýëéùóå ôï êïñìÜêé ôïõò óôï crunch (ôï áíáöÝñåé óå Ýíá slide üôé áêüìá êáé ç ðáñáìéêñÞ áëëáãÞ óôïí êþäéêá ìðïñåß íá ðÜåé ðßóù 1 ìÞíá ôï project).
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    Öïâåñïò!

    Õà êáíåíá íåüôåñï ãéá ôï áí âãåé upgrade ãéá PS5; Å÷ù ôï ðáé÷íßäé íá êÜèåôáé ðåñéìåíùíôáò íá ôï ðáéîù ìå áõôï ôï åíäåøïìåíï

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    Ôï äõóôõ÷çìá åéíáé ïôé ïé áíèñùðïé êáíïõí ôåôïéïõò ðáðáäåò êáé äåí ôï áíôéëáìâáíåôáé/åêôéìá ç óõíôñéðôéêç ðëåéïøçöåéá ôïõ êïóìïõ. Êáé öõóéêá õðáñ÷ïõí ôá äéáöïñá öñïõôá ðïõ èá ðïõí êáé ôï êëáóóéêï ôï pc ìïõ ôïõ 2007 åé÷å êáëõôåñá ãñáöéêá.

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    ¶ëëï Ýíá êáñöß óôï öÝñåôñï ôùí... haterz:

    The Last of Us Part 2 receives record number of BAFTA nominations

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ta-nominations

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    Attention to detail (spoilers!):

    https://www.gamesradar.com/the-last-...-fingerprints/

    Spoiler!

    ¶íôå íá äïýìå ôé èá äïýìå êáé óôï PS5 ìå ôïí SSD (ìéáò êáé èá ìðïñåß íá öïñôþíåé on-the-fly íÝá assets, áíôß íá ÷ñçóéìïðïéåß ôçí RAM ùò cache åëÝù áñãïý HDD)...


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    3+ ÷éëéÜñéêá ãéá ôçí êéèÜñá (ñåðëéêá) ðïõ äþñéóå ï Joel óôçí Ellie.
    Ïê, åßíáé ìÜñêá, áëëÜ 3+ ÷éëéÜñéêá ãéá áêïõóôéêÞ?...
    Spoiler!



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    ÌÜáááëéóôá ... ãéá íá äïýìå.

    Èåëù íá ôï ðáßîù îáíÜ ðùò êáé ðùò áëëÜ üëï êáé ðåñéìÝíù ìÞðùò óêÜóåé ìýôç Ýêäïóç ãéá PS5.

    https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...t-of-us-remake

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    Ôï part 2 ðïôå èá ôï äïõìå óå upgrade ãéá ps5;
    Êñáôéåìáé ãéá íá ìç âáëù ôï äéóêáêé êáé ôï îåêéíçóù

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    Quote Originally Posted by myst77 View Post
    Ôï part 2 ðïôå èá ôï äïõìå óå upgrade ãéá ps5;
    Êñáôéåìáé ãéá íá ìç âáëù ôï äéóêáêé êáé ôï îåêéíçóù

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    å÷åéò öáåé ôï ãáéäáñï. Ðåñéìåíå ëéãáêé ãéáôé áí ôï ðáéîåéò ôùñá èá åéíáé êáñìðïí éäéï ìå ôï Ðñï. Áí êáé ðïëõ öïâáìáé ïôé ç Sony èá æçôçóåé ÷ñçìá ãéá ôï ïðïéï upgrade óå áõôï ôï ðáé÷íéäé äõóôõ÷ùò

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    Quote Originally Posted by myst77 View Post
    Ôï part 2 ðïôå èá ôï äïõìå óå upgrade ãéá ps5;
    Êñáôéåìáé ãéá íá ìç âáëù ôï äéóêáêé êáé ôï îåêéíçóù.
    Ðáßæåé íá âãåé ðéï ãñÞãïñá ãéá PS5 ôï remake ôïõ ðñþôïõ ðáñÜ ôï upgrade ôïõ äåýôåñïõ

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    ÂñÞêá êÜôé åíäéáöÝñïí ðåñß 60 fps mode:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ps4homebrew...eb2x&context=3

    Third: The numbers skyrocketed a bit with this from 29.97 locked FPS to 42 to 59 FPS after changing resolution and disabling the framelock on a Pro in Downtown (42-48 outside buildings 48-58 inside of them).
    ËÝåé üôé óå PS4 Pro ðéÜíåé áðü 42 ìÝ÷ñé 59 fps (õðåíèõìßæù: Jaguar CPU), áíÜëïãá ôçí ðßóôá (åîùôåñéêüò vs åóùôåñéêüò ÷þñïò). Ðñïöáíþò ÷áêåìÝíç (CFW) êïíóüëá ìå îåêëåéäùìÝíï ôï developer menu, áëëÜ êáé ðÜëé åßíáé åíôõðùóéáêü ôï áðïôÝëåóìá (äåßãìá ôïõ ðïëý êáëïý optimization).

    ÂëÝðù ëïéðüí áõôü êáé áíáñùôéÝìáé ôé ôïõò åìðïäßæåé íá âãÜëïõí ó÷åôéêü PS5 patch ìå rock solid 60 fps (ôï áõôü êáé ãéá Uncharted 4)...
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    ÂñÞêá êÜôé åíäéáöÝñïí ðåñß 60 fps mode:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ps4homebrew...eb2x&context=3



    ËÝåé üôé óå PS4 Pro ðéÜíåé áðü 42 ìÝ÷ñé 59 fps (õðåíèõìßæù: Jaguar CPU), áíÜëïãá ôçí ðßóôá (åîùôåñéêüò vs åóùôåñéêüò ÷þñïò). Ðñïöáíþò ÷áêåìÝíç (CFW) êïíóüëá ìå îåêëåéäùìÝíï ôï developer menu, áëëÜ êáé ðÜëé åßíáé åíôõðùóéáêü ôï áðïôÝëåóìá (äåßãìá ôïõ ðïëý êáëïý optimization).

    ÂëÝðù ëïéðüí áõôü êáé áíáñùôéÝìáé ôé ôïõò åìðïäßæåé íá âãÜëïõí ó÷åôéêü PS5 patch ìå rock solid 60 fps (ôï áõôü êáé ãéá Uncharted 4)...
    Ãéáôß ðéèáíüôáôá èá âãïõí PS5 åêäüóåéò ôùí ðáé÷íéäéþí .
    Ãéá U4 äåí îÝñù áëëÜ Lou 2 óßãïõñá.

    ÓôÜëèçêå áðü ôï Redmi Note 9 Pro ìïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþíôáò Tapatalk

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    êáëçóðåñá ìéá åñùôçóç ðáéäéá.óå ps5 ôï ðáé÷íéäé å÷åé áíáäñáóç óôï ÷åéñéóôçñéï óôéò óêáíäáëåò áíáëïãá ìå ôé ïðëï ðõñïâïëáò?ìå÷ñé ôùñá äåí å÷ù äåé äéáöïñá áí êáé åéìáé ëéãï íùñéò ìïëéò óôï 10 ôá åêáôï.åðéóçò ç÷ïò áðï ôï ÷åéñéóôçñéï áêïõãåôáé?

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    Äåí åêìåôáëëåõôáé áðïëýôùò ôßðïôá áðü ôï ðò5, ïýôå áðü ôï dualsense.

    Óôï ðò5 ðáßæåé ëåò êáé åßíáé óå ðò4 ðñï + DualShock 4 êáé ìÝ÷ñé åêåß, ôßðïôå ðáñáðÜíù.

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    êñéìá ãéáôé ðåñéìåíá íá ôï ôåóôáñù ìå ôï game. åõ÷áñéóôù ãéá ôçí áðáíôçóç!!

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    Microsoft Leaked Interal Review Calls The Last of Us 2 Significantly Ahead of Anything on Console & PC
    https://mp1st.com/news/microsoft-leaked-interal-review-calls-the-last-of-us-2-significantly-ahead-of-anything-on-console-pc


    Ìåãáëá ëïãéá êáé ç êáëõôåñç áíôáìïéâç..

    Êáðïéïé èá âãáëïõí óðõñéá!

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