thread: ÌéêñÜ Ã*åá êáé rumors ãéá PS4 all in one Thread

  1. #3041
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    Hardware Test: PlayStation 4



    Idle Blu-ray Gaming Game + UI
    Max Temp 40 Degrees Celsius 41 Degrees Celsius 44 Degrees Celsius 45 Degrees Celsius
    Power Draw 80W 100W 131W 140W
    Noise: Close 42dB 42dB 51dB 53dB
    Noise: 1 metre 40dB 40dB 42dB 42dB
    Noise: 3 metres 40dB 40dB 41dB 41dB



    45 âáèìïõò...÷ììì åãù óáò åéðá âáëôå åããõçóç ãéá óéãïõñéá,äåÃ* áêïõôå

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    Ìßá extra ðëçñïöïñßá...
    Spoiler!

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    Hardware Test: PlayStation 4



    Idle Blu-ray Gaming Game + UI
    Max Temp 40 Degrees Celsius 41 Degrees Celsius 44 Degrees Celsius 45 Degrees Celsius
    Power Draw 80W 100W 131W 140W
    Noise: Close 42dB 42dB 51dB 53dB
    Noise: 1 metre 40dB 40dB 42dB 42dB
    Noise: 3 metres 40dB 40dB 41dB 41dB



    45 âáèìïõò...÷ììì åãù óáò åéðá âáëôå åããõçóç ãéá óéãïõñéá,äåÃ* áêïõôå
    45 âáèìïß åßÃ*áé ðïëý; ÌÜëëïÃ* äåÃ* Ý÷åéò äåé èåñìïêñáóßåò áðü PC, üðïõ 60-70 èåùñïýÃ*ôáé öõóéïëïãéêÜ óå full load...

    ÅìÝÃ*á ðÜëé 45 âáèìïß ìïõ áêïýãåôáé ðïëý ëßãï, áëëÜ áðü ôçÃ* Üëëç ìéëÜìå ãéá ÷åéìþÃ*á êáé ìÜëéóôá óôçÃ* Áããëßá. Èá äåßîåé ç Ã*åêñïøßá ôï êáëïêáßñé óôçÃ* ÅëëÜäá üôáÃ* ðéÜóåé êáýóùÃ*áò...

  5. #3044
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    Ç èåñìïêñáóßá ìïõ öáßÃ*åôáé ëïãéêÞ -áõôü ìå ôï ïðïßï Ý÷ù èÝìá åßÃ*áé ôï ðüóá Watts ñïõöÜåé. >130W óå (áò ðïýìå) full load ðëçóéÜæåé ôï åÃ*ï÷ëçôéêü. ÌðïñïýóáÃ* êáé êáëýôåñá.

    ÕÃ: Íáé, îÝñù üôé ôï Xbox One èá ñïõöÜåé áêüìá ðáñáðÜÃ*ù, áëëÜ êáé ðÜëé.

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    ÅìÝÃ*á ðÜëé 45 âáèìïß ìïõ áêïýãåôáé ðïëý ëßãï, áëëÜ áðü ôçÃ* Üëëç ìéëÜìå ãéá ÷åéìþÃ*á êáé ìÜëéóôá óôçÃ* Áããëßá. Èá äåßîåé ç Ã*åêñïøßá ôï êáëïêáßñé óôçÃ* ÅëëÜäá üôáÃ* ðéÜóåé êáýóùÃ*áò...
    Åêåß áðëÜ áðáãïñåýåôáé Ã*á áÃ*ïßîåéò êïÃ*óüëá. Åãþ ðñïóùðéêÜ ðáßæù ðÜÃ*ôá ìå A/C. ÐÜÃ*ôùò 45 âáèìïß äåÃ* åßÃ*áé ôßðïôá.

  7. #3046
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    Ìéá ÷áñÜ åßÃ*áé êé áÃ* áÃ*ôÝîåé 7-8 ÷ñüÃ*éá ìÝ÷ñé ôçÃ* åðüìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éÜ (áÃ* æïýìå) èá åßÃ*áé óïýðåñ.

  8. #3047
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    Ìéá ÷áñÜ åßÃ*áé êé áÃ* áÃ*ôÝîåé 7-8 ÷ñüÃ*éá ìÝ÷ñé ôçÃ* åðüìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éÜ (áÃ* æïýìå) èá åßÃ*áé óïýðåñ.
    ×á ÷á êïøå êáôé....

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    ÄåÃ* Ã*ïìßæù Ã*á ñïõöÜåé ðåñéóóüôåñá, áëëÜ ãéáôß óïõ êÜÃ*åé åÃ*ôýðùóç ãéá ôï PS4 êáé ðüóá watts ðåñßìåÃ*åò;

    Áðü ôá ðñþôá leaks îÝñáìå üôé ç Sony Þèåëå Ã*á öôéÜîåé êïÃ*óüëá ôùÃ* 150 watts êáé äåÃ* âëÝðù Ã*á ÝðåóáÃ* Ýîù...
    ÄåÃ* áó÷ïëÞèçêá ðïôÝ éäéáßôåñá ìå ôá leaks, áëëÜ ðåñßìåÃ*á ~100W óå full load êáé <50W óå idle, ìßáò êáé ðïõ îåêßÃ*çóáÃ* ìå ôçÃ* apu óôá 28nm. ¼óï ãéá ôï one, ï eurogamer õðïóôçñßæåé ðùò ôï power brick äéÃ*åé óôçÃ* êïÃ*óïëá 250W, ïðüôå äåÃ* åßìáé ôñïìåñÜ áéóéüäïîïò.

  10. #3049
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    ×á ÷á êïøå êáôé....
    Ãéáôß ñå? ôüóï äåÃ* êñáôÜåé ìéá ãåÃ*éÜ?
    åêôüò êé áÃ* öÜåé ôüóï ðÜôï ç Ì$ ðïõ áÃ*áãêáóôåß êáé âãÜëåé êáéÃ*ïýñéá êïÃ*óüëá óå 3-4 ÷ñüÃ*éá.

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    ÄåÃ* áó÷ïëÞèçêá ðïôÝ éäéáßôåñá ìå ôá leaks, áëëÜ ðåñßìåÃ*á ~100W óå full load êáé <50W óå idle, ìßáò êáé ðïõ îåêßÃ*çóáÃ* ìå ôçÃ* apu óôá 28nm. ¼óï ãéá ôï one, ï eurogamer õðïóôçñßæåé ðùò ôï power brick äéÃ*åé óôçÃ* êïÃ*óïëá 250W, ïðüôå äåÃ* åßìáé ôñïìåñÜ áéóéüäïîïò.
    ÐÜÃ*ôá ôá ôñïöïäïôéêÜ åßÃ*áé rated ãéá ðåñéóóüôåñç éó÷ý, áëëÜ ôá ìç÷áÃ*Þìáôá ôñáâÜÃ*å ëéãüôåñï. Ç APU ôçò MS èá èÝëåé ðåñéóóüôåñï ñåýìá (ìåãáëýôåñï ôóéðÜêé & overclocked), áëëÜ ç DDR3 èÝëåé ëéãüôåñï ñåýìá, ïðüôå ðÜÃ*ù-êÜôù ðñÝðåé Ã*á åßÃ*áé óôá ßäéá åðßðåäá êáôáÃ*Üëùóçò ìå ôï PS4.

    Btw, üôáÃ* ëÝÃ*å idle îÝñåé êáÃ*åßò ôé åÃ*Ã*ïïýÃ*; ÅßÃ*áé áðëÜ ç êïÃ*óüëá áÃ*ïé÷ôÞ êáé êÜèåôáé óôï XMB Þ åßÃ*áé ôï standby mode; Ãéáôß áÃ* åßÃ*áé ôï 2ï, ôüôå üÃ*ôùò åßÃ*áé ðïëëÜ ôá 80 watts...

  13. #3051
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    ÐÜÃ*ôá ôá ôñïöïäïôéêÜ åßÃ*áé rated ãéá ðåñéóóüôåñç éó÷ý, áëëÜ ôá ìç÷áÃ*Þìáôá ôñáâÜÃ*å ëéãüôåñï. Ç APU ôçò MS èá èÝëåé ðåñéóóüôåñï ñåýìá (ìåãáëýôåñï ôóéðÜêé & overclocked), áëëÜ ç DDR3 èÝëåé ëéãüôåñï ñåýìá, ïðüôå ðÜÃ*ù-êÜôù ðñÝðåé Ã*á åßÃ*áé óôá ßäéá åðßðåäá êáôáÃ*Üëùóçò ìå ôï PS4.

    Btw, üôáÃ* ëÝÃ*å idle îÝñåé êáÃ*åßò ôé åÃ*Ã*ïïýÃ*; ÅßÃ*áé áðëÜ ç êïÃ*óüëá áÃ*ïé÷ôÞ êáé êÜèåôáé óôï XMB Þ åßÃ*áé ôï standby mode; Ãéáôß áÃ* åßÃ*áé ôï 2ï, ôüôå üÃ*ôùò åßÃ*áé ðïëëÜ ôá 80 watts...
    ÐñïöáÃ*þò, ãé'áõôü ëÝù üôé äåÃ* åßìáé áéóéüäïîïò.

    "5B transistors" <-- scary.

    80W at idle on the front-end menus


    , ïðüôå ìéëÜÃ*å ãéá ôá ìåÃ*ïý. Êáé ðÜëé ðïëëÜ åßÃ*áé.

  14. #3052
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    3 ðïäáñÜêéá??? Ðùôò ãêÝÃ*åÃ* áõôü???


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  16. #3053
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    Ôï PS3 åß÷å óå êÜèå ãùÃ*ßá.


  17. #3054
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    ØéëïáðáñÜäåêôï ðïõ Ý÷åé ìüÃ*ï 3 «ðïäáñÜêéá» ç êïÃ*óüëá, áÃ* êáé ðñïóùðéêÜ èá ôï Ý÷ù üñèéï...

    Ãõöôéåò... ìçÃ* âáëåéò êáèïëïõ óôçÃ* ôåëéêç. ÊïÃ*óïëá ðïõ ìðáôáñåé, åëåïò.

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    Êáëá, ðïõ åéÃ*áé ôá ðïäéá ïìùò;
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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    Ðáéäéá ôæéöïò ôåëéêá, ôåëåéùò áêõñï ôï promotion, åêôïò áðï ôï knack (ôï ïðïéï åéÃ*áé ìåãáëç öïëá) êáé 4 Psn games äåÃ* å÷åé ôðô áëëï ôï óôáÃ*ô. Åðáéîá ëéãï ôï knack , gameplay áðï åðï÷åò Ps1, ãñáöéêá current gen êáé ôðô áëëï. Áðï ôá psn games åé÷å åÃ*á pinball... êáé åÃ*á deadliest catch ìå åÃ*á ÷ôáðïäé, ôïõ ïðïéïõ ðáéñÃ*åéò ôá ðëïêáìéá êáé êáÃ*åéò êáðïéåò êéÃ*çóåéò. Ôï ìïÃ*ï ðïõ áîéæåé åéÃ*áé Ã*á ðéáóåéò óôï ÷åñé óïõ ôï ÷åéñéóôçñéï êáé Ã*á äåéò áðï êïÃ*ôá ôçÃ* êïÃ*óïëá. Áðïññù ðùò äåÃ* åé÷áÃ* åÃ*á BF4 êáé åÃ*á Killzone...

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    Ôùñá áëçèåéá åéÃ*áé áõôï ìå ôá 3 ðëáóôéêá áðï êáôù? ÅéÃ*áé óáÃ* Ã*á åéÃ*áé ÷áëáóìåÃ*ç ôïóá êáé ôïóá âéÃ*ôåáêéá ðïõ ôï äåé÷Ã*ïõÃ* óå ôñáðåæéá êáé ìëêò êáé óôñïããõëïêáèïÃ*ôáé êáé ôçÃ* ðáóðáôåõïõÃ* äåÃ* ôï êáôáëáâå êáÃ*åéò ïôé êïõÃ*éåôáé óáÃ* ôïÃ* ôñõöùÃ*á óáìáñá?åëåïò

    edit
    Èá ðïóôáñåé áìåóùò ôùñá ï Ïäõóóåáò (âëåðù ôï ìåëëïÃ*) êáé èá ðåé ïôé äåÃ* å÷åé ðïäáñáêéá ç êïÃ*óïëá áñá ëååé ìëêò ï ôõðïò
    Satan has left his killing floor
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    Êáëá, ðïõ åéÃ*áé ôá ðïäéá ïìùò;
    OÃ*ôùò äåÃ* Ý÷åé ðïäáñÜêéá ç êïÃ*óüëá Üñá ï ôýðïò ðïõëÜåé ðáðÜ, ôçÃ* Ý÷åé ôïðïèåôÞóåé óå óôñáâÞ åðéöÜÃ*åéá.

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    ØéëïáðáñÜäåêôï ðïõ Ý÷åé ìüÃ*ï 3 «ðïäáñÜêéá» ç êïÃ*óüëá, áÃ* êáé ðñïóùðéêÜ èá ôï Ý÷ù üñèéï...
    To gif åéÃ*áé áðï ôï giantbomb ïðïõ åãéÃ*å ëéãï ìðáêáëéóôéêá êáôá ôç ãÃ*ùìç ìïõ ôï ïëï unboxing. Èá çèåëá confirmation êáé áðï áëëç ðçãç ãéá ôï áÃ* êáé êáôá ðïóï ìðáôáñåé.


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    Å÷åé øùìé ç äïõëåéá ôåëéêá....Èá áêïõóïõìå áðåéñá ðñáãìáôá áðï ôçÃ* Ðáñáóêåõç êáé ìåôá!Ïðëéóôåéôå ìå ïñåîç ãéá êñáîéìï, èáøéìï êáé ôá ó÷åôéêá!Ïôé ìáò áñåóåé Ã*á êáÃ*ïõìå óôá öïñïõì ÷á÷á èá å÷åé ÷áâáëå!
    Åêôïò áðï ÷áâáëå ïìùò, åéÃ*áé êáé áôõ÷éá Ã*á óïõ ÷áëáåé êáéÃ*ïõñéï ìç÷áÃ*çìá ñå ãìô êáé èá äïõìå ôï fail rate ãéá Ã*á âãáëïõìå êáé óõìðåñáóìáôá.ÕðïìïÃ*ç.Ðñïâë åðù êáé êáÃ*á PSN blackout êáé åêåé èá ãéÃ*åé ôçò ðïðçò!
    Satan has left his killing floor
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  28. #3060
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    What is TrueAudio?

    In a nutshell, TrueAudio is a return to the concept of hardware accelerated audio processing, with AMD leveraging their position to put the necessary hardware on the GPU. Hardware accelerated audio processing in the PC space essentially died with Windows Vista, which moved most of the Windows audio stack into software. Previously the stack was significantly implemented through drivers and as such various elements could be offloaded onto the sound card itself, which in the case of 3D audio meant having the audio card process and transform DirectSound 3D calls as it saw fit. However with Vista hardware processing and hardware access to those APIs was stripped, and combined with a general “good enough” mindset of software audio + Realtek audio codecs, the matter was essentially given up on.

    Now even with the loss of traditional hardware acceleration due to Vista, you can still do advanced 3D audio and other effects in software by having the game engine itself do the work. However this is generally not something that¢s done, as game developers are hesitant to allocate valuable CPU time to audio and other effects that are difficult to demonstrate and sell. Further complicating this is of course the current generation consoles, which dedicate a relatively small portion of what are already pretty limited resources to audio processing. As a result the baseline for audio is at times an 8 year old console, or at best a conservative fraction of one CPU core.



    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/t...eat-asus-xfx/4


    Dominic also mentioned


    • PS4 is not a super-computer, but it's an impressive piece of technology
    • They chose the hardware (admitted mainstream-spec) to hit the price-point and at the same time a 10-year cycle.




    Host Geoff Keighley is keeping up the teasing for tomorrow night¢s PS4 launch event and All Access broadcast to be aired on Spike TV at 11 PM EST. He just mentioned that even SCE Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida was surprised by one of the announcements waiting to be revealed.




    The tweet included the vine video you can see below, showing a rather…baffled (maybe?) Yoshida-san.

    Vine video

    What could be so over-the-top to surprise even one of the men most deeply embedded in PlayStation¢s control room? Is Keighley just trolling at this point, or maybe we¢re really going to be swiped off our feet by the incoming barrage of PS4 announcements ?
    Spoiler (ðáé÷íéäéá/ôáéíéåò/âéâëéá) -äåí ðá íá ÷åé âãåé 100 ÷ñïíéá ç ôáéíéá- = -rep

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