thread: ÌéêñÜ Ã*åá êáé rumors ãéá PS4 all in one Thread

  1. #1261
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    Äéáâáóá ôï áñèñï, ëååé ïôé ôá 512MB ðïõ äéáâáæáìå ðáëéïôåñá ãéá ôï OS ðñïïñéæïÃ*ôáÃ* ãéá ôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç åêäïóç ôïõ ps4, oôáÃ* åé÷å 4 GB GDDR5. Ôïôå äëä åé÷å 3.5 ãéá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá êáé ìéóï ãéá ôï OS.
    Êáé ç áðïñéá ðïõ åêöñáæïõÃ* ïëïé êáé åéÃ*áé åõëïãç, ôé óêáôá áëëáîå ìå ôï OS ïôáÃ* äéðëáóéáóôçêå ç ìÃ*çìç? Äëä ï ëïãïò ðïõ äéðëáóéáóáÃ* ôç ìÃ*çìç óôçÃ* ïõóéá äåÃ* çôáÃ* ãéá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá áëëá ãéá Ã*á ìðïñåóïõÃ* Ã*á êáÃ*ïõÃ* ïëåò áõôåò ôéò ðáðáñéåò ðïõ äåÃ* åÃ*äéáöåñïõÃ* ÊÁÍÅÍÁÍ ìå ôï ÏS.
    4.5 GB ëååé ãéá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá êáé ôï extra 1 åéÃ*áé ìïÃ*ï óôá dev kits ãéá Ã*á ôïõò âïçèçóåé óôçÃ* áÃ*áðôõîç, ìåôá ðáðáëá, áÃ* êáôáëáâá êáëá áðï áõôá ðïõ äéáâáóá äëä. Ôï ìïÃ*ï "åëðéäïöïñï" óôïé÷åéï ôïõ áñèñïõ åéÃ*áé ôï ôåëåõôáéï êïììáôé ðïõ ëååé ïôé åÃ*ù óôï Xbone ç ðïóïôçôá åéÃ*áé set in stone óôá 3 ãéá ôï OS, óôï PS4 å÷ïõÃ* áöçóåé áÃ*ïé÷ôï ðáñáèõñï ãéá áëëáãåò.
    Ôé Ã*á ðù, @@ ôïõìðáÃ*á êáé so much for the 8GB of RAM ðïõ å÷åé êáÃ*åé óçìáéá ç Sony ïëïõò áõôïõò ôïõò ìçÃ*åò áÃ* éó÷õïõÃ* áõôá ðïõ ëååé ôï áñèñï. Ìðïñåé ãéá ôùñá ôá 4.5 Ã*á öáéÃ*ïÃ*ôáé õðåñáñêåôá áëëá äåÃ* åéÃ*áé future proof ðïóïôçôá. Óêáôá åÃ* ïëéãïéò, ðåñéìåÃ*ù clarification áðï Sony ãéá Ã*á å÷åé êáé ìéá âáóç ôï êñáîéìï.

    Ç óåëéäá áÃ*åâçêå êáÃ*ïÃ*éêá êáé óôï Áããëéêï Eurogamer
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...oftware-memory


  2. #1262
    Elite
    May 2007
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    pgp5
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    ÐáíôåëÞò

    Ìå copy paste ðáßæåé ôï link




    üôáÃ* ôï ðáôÜò óå ðÜåé óå .pt/ áÃ*ôß ãéá .net

    Spoiler!

  3. #1263
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    Jan 2008
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    ÄçìÞôñçò

    MïÃ*ï åÃ*á ìåãáëïðñåðåò ÊÑÁÎÉÌÏ ðñïò ïëïõò ôïõò õðåõèõÃ*ïõò , ìáæé êáé ôïÃ* Cerny åáÃ* ïëá áõôá åéÃ*áé áëçèåéá, å÷åé Ã*ïçìá.

    Ôï èåùñù ÁÐÁÑÁÄÅÊÔÏ Ã*á ìïõ æçôáÃ*å 3.5 gb ãéá os êïÃ*óïëáò.

  4. #1264
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    hakoo_

    ÁÃ* éó÷õïõÃ* ïëá áõôá ìéá ÷áñá ôá åëåãå ìå ôá ìéóïëïãá ï ÉóðáÃ*ïò, êáé ðáëé ôï PS4 å÷åé åÃ*á ðëåïÃ*åêôçìá óôç ìÃ*çìç áëëá ïé äéáöïñåò åéÃ*áé ìéêñåò êáé êáìéá ó÷åóç ìå áõôá ðïõ Ã*ïìéæáìå.
    ÅÃ*Ã*ïåéôáé ïôé áÃ* åðéâåâáéùèåé èá ðåóåé ôñåëï êñáîéìï ìéáò êáé ç Sony ôïóïõò ìçÃ*åò ìáò åëåãå ïôé ç åðéëïãç ôçò ìÃ*çìçò åãéÃ*å ãéá ôïõò developers. Êïëïêõèéá ôïõìðáÃ*á, 3,5 åé÷áÃ* ðñéÃ*, 4,5 å÷ïõÃ* ôùñá. Ï äéðëáóéáóìïò åãéÃ*å ãéá Ã*á ìðïñåóïõÃ* Ã*á êáÃ*ïõÃ* ïëåò áõôåò ôéò ìáëáêéåò ìå ôï OS, ôá share, ôo multitasking êáé ôéò ðáðáñéåò.


  5. #1265
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    ÄçìÞôñçò

    åôóé åéÃ*áé ïôáÃ* åâãáéÃ*å óôçÃ* óêçÃ*ç ï Cerny Ã*á ëååé ãéá ôá 8 GB åðñåðå Ã*á ðåé, "ìçÃ* ÷áéñåóôå, ãéá ôï OS åéÃ*áé" ôñïëïëïë...

    Áðïãïçôåõôçêï ðñáãìáôéêá. Áëçèåéá å÷ù áðïññéá ðùò ôï êáôáöåñáÃ* áõôï ôï ðñáãìá. Âëåðù áõôç ç ãåÃ*éá Ã*á êñáôáåé áêïìá ëéãïôåñï áðï ôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç...

  6. #1266
    Elite
    Sep 2010
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    ocelot14gr

    äçëáäç ïôáÃ* çôáÃ* 4 gb äåÃ* åé÷áÃ* ìåóá óôï ëåéôïõñãéêï ïëá áõôá?

  7. #1267
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    Oct 2007
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    hakoo_

    Mùñå áÃ* åëåãå 8Gb êáé åìåÃ*å åêåé ìéá ÷áñá èá çôáÃ*, ôï èåìá åéÃ*áé ïôé öáãáìå ïëï ôï bullshit ìå ôïõò ÷áñïõìåÃ*ïõò developers ðïõ ôï æçôçóáÃ* êé åìåéò ôïõò ôï äùóáìå. ÌïÃ*ï ðïõ ïé developers ôçÃ* æçôçóáÃ* ãéá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá êáé ï÷é ãéá Ã*á êáÃ*ïõÃ* recording êáé chat êáé ôéò ëïéðåò ìáëáêéåò.
    Åéìáé ðåñéåñãïò Ã*á äù áÃ* éó÷õïõÃ* áõôá ðïõ óêáôá ÷ñçóéìïðïéïõÃ*ôáé ïëá áõôá ôá GB êáé ãéá ðéï ëïãï ÷ñåéáæïÃ*ôáé ôïïïïïïóç ðéá ìÃ*çìç.
    ÅÃ*ôåëùò ìðáêáëçò ïðùò ðáÃ*ôá áëëá Ã*á ñùôçóù ôá ðáéäéá, ðùò ãéÃ*åôáé óôï vita ïëï áõôï ôï instant pause óôï ðáé÷Ã*éäé êáé ôï ïëï "óõÃ*å÷éæù áðï åêåé ðïõ åìåéÃ*á ÷ùñéò boot ups" Ã*á åðéôõã÷áÃ*åôáé ìå ìïëéò 128 MB dedicated óôï OS êáé ôï ps4 Ã*á èåëåé ôïóá GB?
    Ðïëõ fail êáé ìåãáëï let down ñå ãìô.


    äçëáäç ïôáÃ* çôáÃ* 4 gb äåÃ* åé÷áÃ* ìåóá óôï ëåéôïõñãéêï ïëá áõôá?
    Ôï åé÷áÃ* áëëá çôáÃ* ìïëéò ìéóï 512MB êáé ôá õðïëïéðá ãéá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá.


  8. #1268
    Elite
    Sep 2010
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    910
    PSN ID
    ocelot14gr

    êáôóå ãéáôé äåÃ* êáôáëáâá êáëá.ÅÃ*Ã*ïù ïôé ïôáÃ* åé÷áÃ* 4gb óõÃ*ïëéêç ìÃ*çìç äåÃ* åé÷áÃ* óêïðï Ã*á õðáñ÷åé ôï recording ôï chat êôë ãéáôé ôùñá ìáò ëåÃ*å ïôé ðáéÃ*ïõÃ* 3,3.5 gb áñá çôáÃ* áäõÃ*áôï ìå óõÃ*ïëéêç ìÃ*çìç 4gb Ã*á õðáñ÷ïõÃ* áõôá ôá features

  9. #1269
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    Sorry äåÃ* êáôáëáâá ôé ñùôçóåò ðñéÃ*, Ã*ïìéæù ïôé ìå 512MB ïëá áõôá (recording, chat, instant pauses áÃ*áìåóá óå åöáñìïãåò, multitasking êôë) äåÃ* çôáÃ* óôï ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ï ëåéôïõñãéêï ôùÃ* 4GB. ÐñïöáÃ*ùò ï ëïãïò ðïõ áðïöáóéóáÃ* Ã*á ôçÃ* äéðëáóéáóïõÃ* çôáÃ* ãéá Ã*á êáëõøïõÃ* ôéò áÃ*áãêåò ôïõ OS ðïõ èåëïõÃ* Ã*á öôéáîïõÃ* ìå ïëá áõôá ôá features êáé ï÷é ãéá Ã*á å÷ïõÃ* ïé developers åëåõèåñéá ìå ôçÃ* RAM ïðùò ìáò åëåãáÃ* ôïóïõò ìçÃ*åò ôùñá.


  10. stavros88 (26-07-2013)

  11. #1270
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    MajereMP44

    Êáëá áò öáÃ*å ìéá áêõñáñá ôùñá Ã*á çñåìçóïõÃ*!ÁÃ* ôï åðéâåâáéáùóåé ç Sony êáé åóåéò ðïõ êáÃ*áôå ôéò ðñïðáñáããåëéåò äåÃ* ôéò áêõñùóåôå ôïôå ôé Ã*á ðù...êáëá ìáò êáÃ*ïõÃ*.
    Áðï åêåé ê ðåñá ïé devs ôïõ ðáé÷Ã*éäïõ åêåéÃ*ïõ, ôïõ the witness ðùò ôï ëåÃ*å äåÃ* åé÷áÃ* ðåé ïôé ÷ñçóéìïðïéçïõÃ* 5GB RAM??Áõôïé äëä ðùò ôï åêáÃ*áÃ*?
    Ðáéäéá êáðïéï ëáêêï å÷åé ç öáâá...ÁÃ* äåÃ* ðåé ôðô ç SOny åðéóçìùò áò ìçÃ* âãáëïõìå óõìåðñáóìáôá.ÏôáÃ* ìå ôï êáëï åðéâåâéáùèåé ç ìáëáêéá ïðõ ðáÃ*å Ã*á êáÃ*ïõÃ* áðëá áêõñùóôå êáé ôá êïëðáêéá áõôá ìå ôéò ðñïðáñáããåëéåò êáé êáé ôá power buy ãåÃ*éêá Ã*á ðáñïõÃ* åÃ*á ìáèçìá Ã*á ìçÃ* ëåÃ*å øåìáôá.Ëåò êáé åéìáóôå æùá.Ñé÷Ã*ïõìå áêõñï áÃ* éó÷õåé.Áëëéùò Ã*á ôá ëïõóôïõìå.-
    Satan has left his killing floor
    PS4

  12. Tilemaxx (26-07-2013)

  13. #1271
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    Dragonpaul
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    Ðáýëïò

    Åãþ áðëá ðåñéìÝÃ*ù ôç Sony. Áðëá...

  14. WolfRathmA (27-07-2013)

  15. #1272
    Elite
    Nov 2012
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    T1lemaxx

    Óôï ôÝëïò èá ãåëÜù áÃ* ôï Xbox One áðïäåé÷èåß ðéï éó÷õñü áð' ôï PS4. ÁÃ* êñßÃ*ù áð' ôçÃ* ðñïúóôïñßá ôçò Sony óôéò ðáðÜôæåò äåÃ* ôï èåùñþ áðßèáÃ*ï. ÁÃ* óõìâåß êÜôé ôÝôïéï ç åéêüÃ*á ôçò Sony èá ðëçãåß áÃ*åðáÃ*üñèùôá. ÄåäïìÝÃ*ïõ ïôé ÝÃ*á-ÝÃ*á ôá öýêéá ðïõ ìáò ðáñïõóßáóå áðïäåéêÃ*ýïÃ*ôáé ìåôáîùôÝò êïñäÝëåò.

  16. #1273
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2007
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    personGR

    ÅÃ*ôåëùò ìðáêáëçò ïðùò ðáÃ*ôá áëëá Ã*á ñùôçóù ôá ðáéäéá, ðùò ãéÃ*åôáé óôï vita ïëï áõôï ôï instant pause óôï ðáé÷Ã*éäé êáé ôï ïëï "óõÃ*å÷éæù áðï åêåé ðïõ åìåéÃ*á ÷ùñéò boot ups" Ã*á åðéôõã÷áÃ*åôáé ìå ìïëéò 128 MB dedicated óôï OS êáé ôï ps4 Ã*á èåëåé ôïóá GB?
    Áõôü åßÃ*áé ôï ôåëåõôáßï ðïõ Ý÷åé Ã*á êÜÃ*åé ìå ôï ìÝãåèïò ôçò ìÃ*Þìçò -ôï óýóôçìá áðëÜ äßÃ*åé åÃ*Ýñãåéá óôç ìÃ*Þìç (ü,ôé ìÝãåèïò êáé Ã*á'÷åé áõôÞ) ãéá Ã*á êñáôÞóåé ôá äåäïìÝÃ*á ôçò, áëëÜ äåÃ* ôçÃ* áÃ*áÃ*åþÃ*åé.

  17. #1274
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    Ôilemaxx Tá áëëá öõêéá ðïéá åéÃ*áé?


  18. #1275
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    hakoo_

    Áõôü åßÃ*áé ôï ôåëåõôáßï ðïõ Ý÷åé Ã*á êÜÃ*åé ìå ôï ìÝãåèïò ôçò ìÃ*Þìçò -ôï óýóôçìá áðëÜ äßÃ*åé åÃ*Ýñãåéá óôç ìÃ*Þìç (ü,ôé ìÝãåèïò êáé Ã*á'÷åé áõôÞ) ãéá Ã*á êñáôÞóåé ôá äåäïìÝÃ*á ôçò, áëëÜ äåÃ* ôçÃ* áÃ*áÃ*åþÃ*åé.
    Káôóå ãéáôé êáôá êõñéï ëïãï áëëï çèåëá Ã*á ðù êáé åéðá áëëï, ïê what you say makes sense áëëá ñå ðáéäéá ôï Ã*á óôáìáôáò ìéá åöáñìïãç óôç ìåóç êáé Ã*á îåêéÃ*áò ìéá áëëç (ðïõ åéÃ*áé åöéêôï óôï vita) äåÃ* åéÃ*áé èåìá ìÃ*çìçò? Áêïìá êáé cross game chat å÷åé ôï vita ìå ìïëéò 128 Mb


  19. #1276
    Elite
    Nov 2012
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    T1lemaxx

    Ôilemaxx Tá áëëá öõêéá ðïéá åéÃ*áé?
    ÌÝ÷ñé óôéãìÞò ôï ðñþôï Ýóêáóå ìüëéò ôþñá. Ôá Üëëá ìðïñåß óôï ìÝëëïÃ* Ã*á åßÃ*áé ôï DRM ð.÷.. ËÝù åãþ. Ç áêüìá ÷åéñüôåñá ôá multi Ã*á ôñÝ÷ïõÃ* êáëýôåñá óôï One.

  20. #1277
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    Oct 2007
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    Eéðåò ïôé äåäïìåÃ*á ôá öõêéá ðïõ ìáò ðáñïõóéáóå áðïäåéêÃ*õïÃ*ôáé åÃ*á åÃ*á ìåôáîùôåò êïñäåëåò, ãé' áõôï óå ñùôçóá.


  21. #1278
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    Slay2012

    EéëéêñéÃ*á äåÃ* ìðïñù Ã*á óêåöôù ðùò ãéÃ*åôáé ìå unix kernel Ã*á å÷ïõÃ* ôïóç ìåãáëç êáôáÃ*áëùóç ìÃ*çìçò, áêïìá êáé ôá windows ôïõ one, êáôáÃ*áëùÃ*ïõÃ* 2gb , ôï áëëï 1 áðüôé å÷ù äéáâáóåé åéÃ*áé ãéá Ã*á õðïóôçñéæåé ôéò öùÃ*çôéêåò åÃ*ôïëåò ôïõ kinect.
    Åëðéæù ôï document áðëá Ã*á õðåñâáëåé ãéá Ã*á ìçÃ* å÷ïõÃ* ôõ÷ïÃ* ðñïâëçìáôá ìå launch titles, êáé Ã*á áÃ*áêïéÃ*ùèåé óõÃ*ôïìá ìéá ðïéï ëïãéêç êáôáÃ*áëùóç ìÃ*çìçò áðï ôï OS

  22. #1279
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    hakoo_

    Méá áëëç èåùñéá/åîçãçóç åéÃ*áé ç ðáñáêáôù áðï ÷ñçóôç ôïõ neogaf, áéóéïäïîï óåÃ*áñéï âáóéêá.

    So here is a theory that I have heard. Note, this is not insider information. A friend who is a developer, not on consoles or PlayStation mind, thinks that the new devkits probably ship with 8GB GDDR5 but the developer tools probably take up 2-3GB on there, leaving addressable RAM at just 5GB. He said the problem is that the APU bus is 256bit which won't allow for more than 8GB RAM until 8Gbit chips are available.

    He thinks that the current SDK probably does have 3.5GB reserved for for the OS functions and development tools, but when the next set of kits ship they will have 12GB of RAM and the full 7GB will be addressable.
    ÂãçêáÃ* êáé êáðïéïé ôçò âéïìç÷áÃ*éáò êáé åéðáÃ* êáðïéá ðñáãìáôá








  23. #1280
    Elite
    Nov 2012
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    T1lemaxx

    Eéðåò ïôé äåäïìåÃ*á ôá öõêéá ðïõ ìáò ðáñïõóéáóå áðïäåéêÃ*õïÃ*ôáé åÃ*á åÃ*á ìåôáîùôåò êïñäåëåò, ãé' áõôï óå ñùôçóá.
    ËÜèïò äéáôýðùóç, my bad. ¶ëëï åÃ*Ã*ïïýóá óôçÃ* ðñïêåéìÝÃ*ç.