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  1. 03-08-2011, 02:20 #681
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    Mçðùò åéóáé õðåñâïëéêá áéóéïäïîïò?

    Åãù áí âáëåé 15 èá åéìáé åõôõ÷éóìåíïò.
    Ïýôå ãéá 10 äåí ôïí êüâù,ðïëý âáñýò êáé áñãüò åêåß ðïõ ðñÝðåé.Åßíáé ãåãïíüò üôé åßíáé áíÝôïéìïò áëëÜ êÜðïéá ðñÜãìáôá öáßíïíôáé áðü ôçí ðñþôç ìáôéÜ.Áí êáé ôüóï îåöôéëéóìÝíï ðïõ åßíáé ôï åëëçíéêü ðñùôÜèëçìá ôßðïôá äåí áðïêëåßåôáé
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  2. 03-08-2011, 02:23 #682
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    Eéíáé áñêåôá áñãïò ïíôùò.Ôé íá ðù èá äåéîåé.Áðï áõôïõò ðïõ å÷ïõìå(ðåôñï) ìáëëïí êáëõôåñïò èá åéíáé.
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  3. 03-08-2011, 02:28 #683
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    Áðï áõôïõò ðïõ å÷ïõìå(ðåôñï) ìáëëïí êáëõôåñïò èá åéíáé.
    Äåí ôï íïìßæù âáããÝëç.Ìçí îå÷íÜò êáé ìå Üëëåò ïìÜäåò ï ðåôñüðïõëïò ðüóá ãêïë Ýâáæå.
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  4. 03-08-2011, 02:32 #684
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    Äåí ôï íïìßæù âáããÝëç.Ìçí îå÷íÜò êáé ìå Üëëåò ïìÜäåò ï ðåôñüðïõëïò ðüóá ãêïë Ýâáæå.
    Åéìáé ôïóï áðïãïçôåõìåíïò áðï ôïí Ðåôñïðïõëï ðïõ ðñáãìáôéêá ðéóôåõù ïôé åéíáé ðïëõ åõêïëï íá åéíáé êáëõôåñïò ï Ôïôóå.
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  5. 03-08-2011, 02:39 #685
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    ¼óï ãéá ðáðÜäåò åßíáé óßãïõñï,ìçí ôñÝ÷åé óå ôßðïôá ìïíáóôÞñéá ðñéí öôÜóåé äåêÝìâñçò.ÐÜíôùò ößëå åéëéêñéíÜ ïýôå ìÜíáôæåñ ôïõ ôüôóå íá Þóïõí.Åßðáìå áéóéïäïîßá áëëÜ Ýëåïò.ÐïéÝò êéíÞóåéò ìïõ ëåò.........Ôüôå ï óéóÝ Ýðñåðå íá öôÜóåé ôá 50 ãêïë
    Äåí êáôÜëáâåò êáëÜ...
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    ÐñïóùðéêÜ ðéóôåýù èá âÜëåé ðåñéóóüôåñá ... ìå ôéò êéíÞóåéò ðïõ åß÷å óÞìåñá, åßíáé ðñáãìáôéêÜ áäýíáôï íá ìçí âÜæåé Ýíá ãêüë óå êÜèå 2 ðáé÷íßäéá Åëëçíéêïý ðñùôáèëÞìáôïò.

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    Äåí ëÝù üôé åßíáé ãéá Ðñåìéåñ league , áëëÜ ôá ãêüë èá ôá âÜæåé... ìçí îå÷íÜò üôé ðáßêôåò óáí ôïí Ãêüãêéôò ð÷ Ýêáíáí êáñéÝñá áêüìá êáé óôá ãåñÜìáôá, äåí åßíáé áíÜãêç íá Ýñ÷åóáé áðü Á Áããëßáò ãéá íá êÜíåéò åäþ áõôÞí ôçí äïõëåéÜ ... êáé ï Üíèñùðïò íïìßæù èá êÜíåé ðáðÜäåò öÝôïò.
    Ðùò ãßíåôáé íá âÜëåé ðåñéóóüôåñá ï ÔïôóÝ ? ÄçëáäÞ áõôïß ðïõ Ýäùóáí 8-9 åêáôïììýñéá ãéá ôïí ÓéóÝ Þôáí êïñüéäá.....
    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

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  6. 03-08-2011, 04:04 #686
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    Ðùò ãßíåôáé íá âÜëåé ðåñéóóüôåñá ï ÔïôóÝ ? ÄçëáäÞ áõôïß ðïõ Ýäùóáí 8-9 åêáôïììýñéá ãéá ôïí ÓéóÝ Þôáí êïñüéäá.....
    Óôçí ÅëëÜäá ï Ôüôóå èá âÜëåé ðåñéóóüôåñá, óôçí Áããëßá ï ÓéóÝ èá Ýâáæå ðåñéóóüôåñá... üðùò Ýíáò ðáßêôçò ðïõ Þôáí áóôÝñé óôçí ïìÜäá íÝùí ìðïñåß íá ðáôþóåé óôçí åðáããåëìáôéêÞ êáé Ýíáò Üëëïò ìå ôá ìéóÜ ãêüë åêåß íá êÜíåé êáñéÝñá ... üëá Ý÷ïõí ó÷Ýóç ìå ôéò óõíèÞêåò êáé ôï åßäïò ôïõ ðáßêôç.

    Áðü ôïí áãþíá ðïõ åßäá åßíáé öáíåñü ðùò Ýâáëå ôüóá ãêüë óôçí Éóðáíßá ï ÔïôóÝ , êáé åðßóçò åßíáé öáíåñü üôé äåí èá Ý÷åé ðñüâëçìá íá ôá âÜëåé êáé åäþ.

    Áõôü åßíáé ðïõ ÷ñåéÜæåôáé ï Ðáíáèçíáúêüò ãéá ôï ðñùôÜèëçìá... ðÝñóé ð÷ åß÷áìå êáëýôåñç ïìÜäá óôïõò ìåôáîý ìáò áãþíåò êáé ÷Üíáìå âáèìïýò ìå ôéò ìéêñÝò , öÝôïò äåí èá óõìâåß.
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  7. 03-08-2011, 09:34 #687
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    Óôçí ÅëëÜäá ï Ôüôóå èá âÜëåé ðåñéóóüôåñá, óôçí Áããëßá ï ÓéóÝ èá Ýâáæå ðåñéóóüôåñá... üðùò Ýíáò ðáßêôçò ðïõ Þôáí áóôÝñé óôçí ïìÜäá íÝùí ìðïñåß íá ðáôþóåé óôçí åðáããåëìáôéêÞ êáé Ýíáò Üëëïò ìå ôá ìéóÜ ãêüë åêåß íá êÜíåé êáñéÝñá ... üëá Ý÷ïõí ó÷Ýóç ìå ôéò óõíèÞêåò êáé ôï åßäïò ôïõ ðáßêôç.

    Áðü ôïí áãþíá ðïõ åßäá åßíáé öáíåñü ðùò Ýâáëå ôüóá ãêüë óôçí Éóðáíßá ï ÔïôóÝ , êáé åðßóçò åßíáé öáíåñü üôé äåí èá Ý÷åé ðñüâëçìá íá ôá âÜëåé êáé åäþ.

    Áõôü åßíáé ðïõ ÷ñåéÜæåôáé ï Ðáíáèçíáúêüò ãéá ôï ðñùôÜèëçìá... ðÝñóé ð÷ åß÷áìå êáëýôåñç ïìÜäá óôïõò ìåôáîý ìáò áãþíåò êáé ÷Üíáìå âáèìïýò ìå ôéò ìéêñÝò , öÝôïò äåí èá óõìâåß.
    Ðñåðåé íá åéóáé ï ìïíáäéêïò ðïõ âëåðåé êáôé êáëï óôïí Ôïôóå.
    Êáôáñ÷áò ï ðáéêôçò çôáí áãíùóôïò ðñéí åñèåé, åíù óå ó÷åäïí ïëç ôïõ ôçí åðáããåëìáôéêç êáñéåñá å÷åé ðáéîåé óôç  êáôçãïñéá Éóðáíéáò. Óå ìéá ÷ñïíéá ìïíï (ðåñõóé) åâáëå áñêåôá ãêïë êáé îáöíéêá åãéíå ðáéêôáñáò êáé "ôñåîáôå" íá ôïí ðáñåôå. Ðñïóùðéêá ðéóôåõù èá öõãåé íõ÷ôá êáé ç óõãêñéóç ìå ôïí Óéóå åéíáé ôïõëá÷éóôïí áóôåéá.
    Öåôïò èá áðïäåé÷ôåé ðïóï âáóéóìåíç çôáí ç ïìáäá óôïí Óéóå êáé óôá ãêïë ðïõ åâáæå.
    Ïóïí áöïñá ôï ðñùôáèëçìá ìå áõôá ÷áëéá ï÷é ìïíï äåí èá ÷áíåôå âáèìïõò ìå ôéò ìéêñåò ïìáäåò áëëá èá ÷áóåôå ôá áõãá & ôá ðáó÷áëéá.
    Óôïõò ôõöëïõò âáóéëåõåé ï ìïíïöèáëìïò...
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  8. 03-08-2011, 12:18 #688
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    ÐÝñóé ÷Üíáíå âáèìïýò ìå ôéò ìéêñÝò ïìÜäåò... Ðüóá ôÝôïéá ðáé÷íßäéá êáèÜñéóå ï ÓéóÝ äåí ìðïñþ íá èõìçèþ âÝâáéá Ïðüôå áó'ôïí, üôáí ôï äéáóôçìéêü öïñ, ï âñÜ÷ïò ìå ôéò ôïðïèåôÞóåéò êáé ôéò ìáãéêÝò êéíÞóåéò, áðïäåé÷ôåß üôé åßíáé Ýíáò ðïäïóöáéñéóôÞò êëÜóçò Ñïíôñßãêï Óüïõæá íá äïýìå ôé èá ëÝåé ôüôå. ÅéäéêÜ óôï ãêïë ðïõ ç ìðÜëá ðÞãå ìå óðüíôá ðÜíù ôïõ, åß÷å õðïëïãßóåé ôçí ôñï÷éÜ ôçò óðüíôáò êáé Ýêáôóå óôï êáôÜëëçëï óçìåßï.
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  9. 03-08-2011, 16:28 #689
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    2 ãåìÜôåò ÷ñïíéÝò Ýâáëå ðïëëÜ ãêüë ìåôÜ ôïí ôñáõìáôéóìü ôïõ ... êáé áí äåí ôïí ðáßñíáìå èá Ýðáéæå 1ç Éóðáíßáò (Ýóôù óå ðïëý ìéêñÞ ïìÜäá)

    Äåí êÜíïõìå óýãêñéóç ìå ôïí ÓéóÝ ãéáôß åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêïß ðáßêôåò, ï ÔïôóÝ ìðïñåß íá áðïäåé÷ôåß Üíåôá ðéï áðïôåëåóìáôéêüò óôï Åëëçíéêü ðñùôÜèëçìá, êáé åßíáé ðëåïíÝêôçìá ãéá áõôü ôï üôé áãùíéæüôáí óå üëç ôïõ ôçí ÊáñéÝñá óå áíÜëïãåò óõíèÞêåò.

    Åðßóçò èåôéêü üôé áêüìá êáé 30 ãêüë íá âÜëåé öÝôïò, Üíåôá ôïí êñáôÜò ãéá ôá åðüìåíá ÷ñüíéá ... äåí èá èÝëåé íá öýãåé ïýôå èá ìáò äþóåé êáíåßò ôñåëÜ ðïóÜ.
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    "áãùíéæüôáí óå üëç ôïõ ôçí ÊáñéÝñá óå áíÜëïãåò óõíèÞêåò."
    Ôé åííïåéò; Ïôé ç ïìáäá ôïõ ðñùôáãùíéóôïõóå óôï ðñùôáèëçìá ôçò Á Åèíéêçò Þ ïôé åêáíå êáé êáëç ðïñåéá óôçí Åõñùðç; Äåí óå ðéáíù.
    Ôï èåìá äåí åéíáé áí èá åðáéæå 1ç Éóðáíéáò Þ êáðïõ áëëïõ.
    Ôï èåìá åéíáé ôé èá êáíåé óôïí Ðáíáèçíáéêï.
    Ôï ïôé åâáëå ðåñõóé 35 ãêïë ìå ôçí Êáñôáãêåíá äå ìïõ ëååé ôéðïôá (ïõôå ç Êáñôáãêåíá ìïõ ëååé äëä). Ïóïí áöïñá ôá 30 ãêïë ìáëëïí ïíåéñåõåóáé ïôé ìðïñåé íá óõìâåé êáôé ôåôïéï.

    Óôïõò ôõöëïõò âáóéëåõåé ï ìïíïöèáëìïò...
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  11. 03-08-2011, 17:06 #691
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    ÔÝëïò ðÜíôùí ... áðëÜ áí ôïí äåßò íá âÜæåé 2 ãêïëÜêéá ìå ôïí Ðáíóåñáéêü , ìåôÜ 1 ìå ôïí áôñüìçôï , 1 ìå ôïí Áñç , 1 ìå ôçí ËÜñéóá êáé Ýñèåé êáé ç óåéñÜ óáò íá ìáæÝøåôå ... äåí èÝëù äéêáéïëïãßåò êáé ìá-ìïõ .

    Óå èÝëù íá äçëþíåéò Ýêðëçîç ìå ôïí ðáéêôáñÜ ðïõ âñÞêáìå êáé íá ìçí ôïí õðïôéìÜò ôüôå , ïê ?
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    Äåí êÜíïõìå óýãêñéóç ìå ôïí ÓéóÝ ãéáôß åßíáé äéáöïñåôéêïß ðáßêôåò, ï ÔïôóÝ ìðïñåß íá áðïäåé÷ôåß Üíåôá ðéï áðïôåëåóìáôéêüò óôï Åëëçíéêü ðñùôÜèëçìá
    Óáí óôïé÷åéá/÷áñáêôçñéóôéêá åôóé ðñï÷åéñá áðï áõôá ðïõ åéäá óå åíá ðáé÷íéäé êáô'åìå ÷áíåé ðïëõ óå ïëá óå óõãêñéóç ìå ôïí Óéóå...
    Ìå èáõìáôá äåí ìðáéíïõí ãêïë.Ðñåðåé íá å÷åéò êáé ôéò áíáëïãåò éêáíïôçôåò.

    Ïôáí ï Óéóå óïõ åé÷å ôá÷õôçôá 9.5/10 ,åêôåëåóç 9/10.Ï Ôïôóå èá åéíáé óôá ìéóá(óôï ðñùôï óéãïõñá åéíáé) êáé èá ëåìå êáé åõ÷áñéóôù.
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    Ï ÓéóÝ åß÷å 12 áãþíåò íá óêïñÜñåé ðñßí Ýñèåé óå åìÜò, êáé ïýôå èõìÜìáé ðüóï Ýêáíå ìåôÜ ... ÂëÝðåéò íá õðÜñ÷åé ðåñßðôùóç íá óõìâåß êÜôé áíÜëïãï ìå ÔïôóÝ? Åãþ ïýôå ìéá óôï åêáôïììýñéï.

    Óõíåñãáóßá ÓéóÝ - ËÝôï ð÷ Þ ãéá íá ìÜèåé ðùò ðñÝðåé íá ôïõ äßíåé ôçí ìðÜëá ï Íßíçò ðüóïò êáéñüò Ýðñåðå íá ðåñÜóåé ?
    Ç êßíçóç óôçí ðåñéï÷Þ åßíáé ßäéá óôïõò 2 ðáßêôåò ? ðïéïò îÝñåé íá âñßóêåôáé óôçí èÝóç ðïõ ðñÝðåé êáé ðïéïò åßíáé ðïéï äõíáôüò ãéá íá ôçí åêìåôáëëåõôåß ?

    Åßíáé áðëÜ ðïëý äéáöïñåôéêïß ðáßêôåò êáé âÜæïõí ìå äéáöïñåôéêü ôñüðï ôá ãêüë ... ï ÔïôóÝ ôáéñéÜæåé êáëýôåñá óôçí ÅëëÜäá êáé óå åìÜò.
    Ï ÓéóÝ ßóùò ìáò âïçèïýóå óôïí åêôüò Ýäñáò ìå ôçí ÏíôÝíóå, áëëÜ óôïí ÷èåóéíü áãþíá äåí âëÝðù ðùò èá ìðïñïýóå íá êÜíåé êÜôé êáëýôåñï áðü ôïí ÔïôóÝ.
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  14. 03-08-2011, 17:48 #694
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    Ï Óéóå áíáãåííçèçêå åäù.Äåí çôáí óôçí êáëõôåñç êáôáóôáóç ïôáí çñèå,åíù óôçí áñ÷ç ôïí êñáæáìå áí èõìáóáé.
    Ï Ôïôóå õðïôéèåôáé ïôé åéíáé çñèå áðï ðïëõ êáëç ÷ñïíéá áí äåí êáíù ëáèïò.

    Èá äåéîåé...
    Áðëá Óéóå äåí åéíáé ìå ôçí êáìéá.Áëëï åðéðåäï áðëá..
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  15. 03-08-2011, 18:31 #695
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    Åßíáé éåñïóõëßá êáé ìüíï ç óýãêñéóç ÔïôóÝ êáé ÓéóÝ, ôï ìüíï êïéíü ðïõ Ý÷ïõí áõôïß ïé ðáß÷ôåò åßíáé üôé ôá ïíüìáôÜ ôïõò ôïíßæïíôáé óôçí ëÞãïõóá êáé ôï "óå" óôï ôÝëïò. ×èåò ï ÓéóÝ èá ìðïñïýóå íá åß÷å âÜëåé 2 ãêïë êáé íá ôåëåßùíå ôï ðáé÷íßäé íùñßò ÷ùñßò ðåñéðÝôåéåò. Äåí åßíáé ìüíï ç ôá÷ýôçôá ðïõ Ý÷åé ï ÓéóÝ, áëëÜ êáé ç Ýêñçîç.
    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

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    Áí åßíáé Ýôóé íá ðÜñåôå êáíÜ Ëïõá ëïýá ãéáôß ïé äéêïß óáò ðñÝðåé íá åßíáé ðéï áñãïß áðü ÔïóôÝ.

    Éóùò Ýâáæå Ýíá ãêüë óôïí åêôüò Ýäñáò óôï äéÜóôçìá ðïõ êÜíáìå áíôåðéèÝóåéò êáé õðÞñ÷áí ÷þñïé , áëëÜ ÷èÝò äåí èá Ýâáæå ôßðïôá... ìåôÜ ôï 0-1 èá åß÷áìå Üëëç ìéá êëáóéêÞ ðåñßðôùóç ðïõ äåí èá ðÝñíáãå êáìéÜ ìðáëéÜ ðñïò ôïí ÓéóÝ êáé èá ðÜëåõå ï ËÝôï êáé ï Êáñáãêïýíçò ìå êáíÜ óïýô íá óðÜóïõí ôçí Üìõíá .
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    O ÔïóôÝ ìðïñåß íá åßíáé ðéï ãñÞãïñïò áðü ôïõò äéêïýò ìáò, ï ÔïôóÝ äýóêïëá. Åß÷å åõêáéñßåò ï ÔïôóÝ ÷èåò, ôÝôïéåò ðïõ áí Þôáí ôï ÓéóÝ óôçí èÝóç ôïõ èá ôéò ôåëåßùíå. Áí ðéóôåýåéò üôé ï ÔïôóÝ åßíáé êáëýôåñïò êáíÝíá ðñüâëçìá...
    "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."

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  18. 03-08-2011, 20:40 #698
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    Êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ðáéäéÜ ï Ýíáò ìå ôïí Üëëïí.
    Ï ðáßêôçò åßíáé ðïëý âáñýò, äåí îÝñù áí åßíáé ãêïëôæçò (ìáêÜñé), áëëÜ êáëü åßíáé íá ôïí êñßíïõìå ìåôÜ áðü 4-5 áãþíåò.
    ÐÜíôùò åê ðñþôçò üøåùò äåß÷íåé üôé èá êáèõóôåñåß ôçí ïìÜäá.
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    Êáé ï ìðüñ÷á åß÷å îåóêßóåé ôá äß÷ôõá ðñéí Ýñèåé åäþ êáé üôáí Þñèå åßäáìå ôé îÝóêéóå.Ðñþôá áðü üëá óå Ýíáí ðáß÷ôç êïéôÜò ôá ÷áñáêôçñéóôéêÜ.Ï ôüôóå äåí Ý÷åé êáëýôåñá áðü ôïí ðåôñüðïõëï.Êáé ï ðáï äåí åßíáé êáñôá-ãÝíéá.Êáé ï áôñüìçôïò íá Ýðáéñíå áõôü ôïí ðáß÷ôç äåí èá ìïõ Ýêáíå Ýêðëçîç.ºóá ßóá ôÝôïéåò ïìÜäåò ðñÝðåé íá ÷ôõðÜíå ôÝôïéïõò ðáß÷ôåò.Ãéá ôïí ðáï áðëÜ åßíáé ÍÔÑÏÐÇ.ÁëëÜ åéëéêñéíÜ äåí ìðïñþ íá êáôáëÜâù ðùò áíÝ÷åóôå íá îåêéíÜåé ï Üëëïò ôïí êëÝéôïí êïñõöÞ.ÇÌÁÑÔÏÍ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¸íáí ðáß÷ôç îåãñáììÝíï ðïõ ïýôå ï ßäéïò îÝñåé ãéáôß Ýìåéíå.ÌÁÊÁÑÉ ÍÁ ÌÅÉÍÅÔÅ ÌÅ ÁÕÔÏÕÓ.ÌÁÊÁÑÉ
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  20. 04-08-2011, 01:23 #700
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicarious View Post
    Êáìßá ó÷Ýóç ðáéäéÜ ï Ýíáò ìå ôïí Üëëïí.
    Ï ðáßêôçò åßíáé ðïëý âáñýò, äåí îÝñù áí åßíáé ãêïëôæçò (ìáêÜñé), áëëÜ êáëü åßíáé íá ôïí êñßíïõìå ìåôÜ áðü 4-5 áãþíåò.
    ÐÜíôùò åê ðñþôçò üøåùò äåß÷íåé üôé èá êáèõóôåñåß ôçí ïìÜäá.
    Ï ðáßêôçò åßíáé øçëüò, äõíáôüò , êñáôÜåé ôçí ìðÜëá, êÜíåé óõíäõáóìïýò ìå ôïõò óõìðáßêôåò ôïõ ÷ùñßò ðñïðüíçóç , ðáßñíåé óùóôÝò èÝóåéò óôçí ðåñéï÷Þ êáé Ý÷åé êáëÝò êéíÞóåéò ðáíôïý , âÜæåé ãêüë ìå êÜèå ôñüðï , áí Þôáí êáé óöáßñá íïìßæù èá ôïí Ýðáéñíå ç chelsea íá îåöïñôùèåß ôïí drogba.

    Äåí åßíáé áíÜãêç íá êÜíåé ôéò áíôåðéèÝóåéò ï åðéèåôéêüò ðåñéï÷Þò ðïõ ôïí ðñïóÝ÷ïõí êéüëáò , ìðïñåß íá âãåé êÜðïéïò áðü ðßóù êáé ï ÔïôóÝ íá åßíáé óôÞñéãìá...

    Äåò êáé ôïí ãáýñï äçëáäÞ ìå ÐÜíôåëéôò Ôæéìðïýñ ... ðïõ Ý÷ïõí íá ðáßîïõí êáé 2-3 ÷ñüíéá ðïäüóöáéñï.
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