thread: Xbox One

  1. #5721
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162

    Ôùñá äåÃ* îåñù ðùò Ã*á áðáÃ*ôçóù óå áõôï. ÅéëéêñéÃ*á. ÁÃ* ôï 1080p äåÃ* êáÃ*åé ðáóéöáÃ*ç äéáöïñá áðï ôï 720ñ ðáù ðáóï. ÅáÃ* ôá 60fps äåÃ* êáÃ*ïõÃ* ðáóéöáÃ*ç äéáöïñá áðï ôá 30 fps, åðéóçò ðáù ðáóï. ÅáÃ* ðáñïëáõôá ôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá óôï PS4 å÷ïõÃ* ðåñéóóïôåñá assets (foilage/textures) êáëõôåñï ÁÁ êëð å ôïôå åéÃ*áé ðïõ óçêùÃ*ù ôá ÷åñéá øçëá.

    Ïðùò êáé Ã*á å÷åé åéôå âëåðåé êáðïéïò áõôåò ôéò äéáöïñåò åéôå äåÃ* ôéò âëåðåé, åéÃ*áé áîéï áðïññéáò ðùò äåÃ* ìðïñåé Ã*á áÃ*ôéëçöèåé ïôé ç ìéá êïÃ*óïëá êáÃ*åé render 50% ðáñáðáÃ*ù ðéîåë áðï ôçÃ* áëëç êáé ðáñïëáõôá å÷ïõìå "ÉÓÁÎÉÁ" multiplatforms!

    ðéï facepalm äåÃ* ãéÃ*åôáé...
    Ãéá ôï frame rate äåÃ* óõæçôÜìå êÜÃ*.ç äéáöïñÜ áð ôá 30 óôá 60 åéÃ*áé ÷áþäçò êáé äåÃ* ÷ñåéÜæåôáé êÜÃ* Ã*á õðÜñîåé óýãêñéóç ðÜÃ*ù óå áõôï.

    Ôá ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá üìùò ìå äéÜöïñåò óôï frame rate åéÃ*áé åëÜ÷éóôá êáé ðñïóùðéêÜ ãÃ*ùñßæù ìüÃ*ï ôï tomb raider.

    Ïé äéÜöïñåò óôçÃ* áÃ*Üëõóç êõñéáñ÷ïýÃ* ìåôáîý one êáé ps4. Å åêåß äåÃ* âëÝðù ôçÃ* ôåñÜóôéá äéáöïñÜ ðïõ åÃ*ëåðá óôçÃ* ðñïçãïýìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éÜ.

    Ôùñá âëÝðåéò ÝÃ*á ðáé÷Ã*ßäé êáé ëåò üôé "óôï ps4 ðáßæåé êáëýôåñá".

    Ôüôå Ýâëåðåò ôï port óôï PS3 êáé Ýëåãåò "ðïóü ÷Üëéá åéÃ*áé óôï ps" .

    ÁÃ*Üìåóá óå áõôÝò ôéò 2 åêöñÜóåéò õðÜñ÷åé ôåñÜóôéá äéáöïñÜ.



    ÌçÃ* ôá éóùðåäïÃ*ïõìå üëá ç áëÞèåéá ðñÝðåé Ã*á ëÝãåôáé åßôå ìáò áñÝóåé åßôå ü÷é åîÜëëïõ ÅÓÕ ðÞñåò 360 ëüãù Üèëéïõ port ôïõ mass effect êáé ôá ãñáðôÜ ìÝÃ*ïõÃ*.

    ¸÷åéò áðüëõôï äßêéï óôï rendering êïììÜôé áëëá áõôï äåÃ* óçìáßÃ*åé üôé ôç äýÃ*áìç ôïõ ps4 ôçÃ* Ý÷ïõÃ* åêìåôáëëåõôåß ìÝ÷ñé ôùñá.

    Ïõôå êÜÃ* ôïõ one.

    Êáé åðßóçò Ã*ïìéæù üëïé ãÃ*ùñßæïõìå üôé óôçÃ* ðñïçãïýìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éÜ ìåôÜ ôçÃ* 2 åôéá ðÞñáìå ãåýóç ãéá ôéò äõÃ*Áôïôçôåò ôïõ hardware.

  2. #5722
    Advanced Member
    May 2008
    Nikea
    534
    PSN ID
    Narayan64

    Ïé ôçëåïñÜóåéò ìáò åßÃ*áé öôéáãìÝÃ*åò ãéá 1080p, ïôéäÞðïôå ëéãüôåñï äçìéïõñãåß èüñõâï.
    ÐåëÜôçò åßìáé êáé áðáéôþ óå next gen êïÃ*óüëá Ã*á åßÃ*áé Standard ôï 1080p.

    Ná ôï äïýìå êáé ìå áñéèìïýò.

    900p 1600x900=1440000 pixels

    1080p 1920x1080=2073600 pixels

    ÅßÃ*áé ðåñßðïõ 650 ÷éëéÜäåò pixels äéáöïñÜ óå êÜèå êáñÝ áðü ôá 30 (Þ êáé ðáñáðÜÃ*ù) ôï äåõôåñüëåðôï,
    áÃ* äåÃ* èåùñåßò äéáöïñÜ ôá ðåñßðïõ 19 åêáôïììýñéá pixels áÃ*Ü äåõôåñüëåðôï! ôüôå ìÜëëïÃ* åßóáé éêáÃ*ïðïéçìÝÃ*ïò ìå ðïëý ëéãüôåñá ðñÜãìáôá áðü áõôÜ ðïõ ðëçñþÃ*åéò.

    ÅðáÃ*áëáìâÜÃ*ù, äåÃ* ìå åÃ*äéáöÝñåé ðùò èá ôïõò âãåé öèçÃ*üôåñá åêåß óôçÃ* Ubisoft,
    áÃ* èÝëïõÃ* Ã*á ôïõò âãåé öèçÃ*üôåñá Ã*á ìáò ôï ðïõëÞóïõÃ* êáé öèçÃ*üôåñá, áò ôï âÜëïõÃ* óôá 35 åõñþ êáé êáÃ*åßò äåÃ* èá ôïõò ðåé ôßðïôá.

    ÊáëÜ êÜÃ*åéò êáé äåÃ* óå åÃ*äéáöÝñåé, üëïé ìáò ðñÝðåé óáÃ* gamers Ã*á æçôÜìå ôï êáëýôåñï áðü ôéò åôáéñåßåò ðáñáãùãÞò êáé ï êáëýôåñïò ôñüðïò Ã*á áêïõóôïýìå åßÃ*áé ìå ôï ðïñôïöüëé ìáò.

    ÄåÃ* åßðá ðùò ôá 900p äåÃ* Ý÷ïõÃ* äéáöïñÜ áðü ôá 1080p, óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*á óôï Black Flag ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé ÞôáÃ* ãñáììÝÃ*ï óå 900p êáé ìå ôï patch ÝãéÃ*å ÝÃ*á áðëü upscale óôïÃ* ôñüðï áðåéêüÃ*éóçò ôùÃ* textures. ÁÃ* ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé ÞôáÃ* ãñáììÝÃ*ï åîáñ÷Þò óôá 1080p native ôï ôåëéêü áðïôÝëåóìá èá ÞôáÃ* óáöþò êáëýôåñï ïðôéêÜ êáé èá öáéÃ*üÃ*ôïõóáÃ* ðåñéóóüôåñåò äéáöïñÝò óå ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçÃ* Ýêäïóç ôïõ One, óôçÃ* ðñÜîç üìùò äåÃ* ãßÃ*åôáé áõôü êáèþò ÝãéÃ*å ÝÃ*á êïéÃ*ï development êáé ãéá ôéò äýï ðëáôöüñìåò.

    Äõóôõ÷þò üôáÃ* Ý÷ïõÃ* öôÜóåé ôá development costs ãéá ÝÃ*áÃ* ÁÁ ôßôëï üðùò ôï AC Ã*á ìåôñþÃ*ôáé óå äåêÜäåò åêáôïììýñéá äïëëÜñéá, ï êÜèå publisher èá êïéôÜîåé Ã*á êüøåé êüóôç áðü üðïõ ìðïñåß. Óßãïõñá ìðïñïýìå åóý êé åãþ Ã*á "ìðïûêïôÜñïõìå" üðïéïõò ôßôëïõò äåÃ* áÃ*ôáðïêñßÃ*ïÃ*ôáé óôá ðïéïôéêÜ êñéôÞñéá ðïõ Ý÷ïõìå èÝóåé, ç ðëåéïÃ*üôçôá ôùÃ* áðëþÃ* gamers üìùò äåÃ* áó÷ïëïýÃ*ôáé óå åðßðåäï neogaf ìå ôï ÷þñï êáé èá áãïñÜóïõÃ* ôï AC êáé ðïëëïýò Üëëïõò ôßôëïõò ðïõ Ý÷ïõÃ* åîåëé÷èåß åÃ* áãÃ*ïßá ôïõò ìå ôï ßäéï ïéêïÃ*ïìéêü ìïÃ*ôÝëï. ¼óï êõÃ*éêü êáé Ã*á áêïýãåôáé, êáëýôåñá Ã*á óõÃ*çèßóïõìå óå áõôÞ ôç ãåÃ*éÜ Ã*á âëÝðïõìå Ã*á åöáñìüæåôáé áõôÞ ç ôáêôéêÞ óôá multiplats, ìå ôçÃ* ðñáãìáôéêÞ éó÷ý ôçò êÜèå êïÃ*óüëáò Ã*á öáßÃ*åôáé êõñßùò óôá exclusives.

  3. #5723
    Administrator
    May 2007
    Ðáôñá
    13,189
    PSN ID
    Slay2012

    Ïé äýï êïÃ*óüëåò Ý÷ïõÃ* áêñéâþò ôçÃ* ßäéá áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ êáé ôï PS4 Ý÷åé åëáöñþò ðåñéóóüôåñç éó÷ý, áÃ*ôß ëïéðüÃ* Ã*á êÜÃ*ïõÃ* develop ìå äýï äéáöïñåôéêÝò ïìÜäåò ãéá Ã*á õðÜñ÷åé ôï êáëýôåñï äõÃ*áôü áðïôÝëåóìá óå êÜèå êïÃ*óüëá, ÝêáÃ*áÃ* develop óôï Xbox One êáé ìåôÜ ÝÃ*á áðëü port ãéá Ã*á äïõëåýåé ìå ôïÃ* memory controller ôïõ PS4. ¸ôóé ìåéþèçêå óçìáÃ*ôéêÜ ôï êüóôïò ðáñáãùãÞò.
    ôçÃ* ðåñéóóïôåñç éó÷õ (6 ðáñáðáÃ*ù CU) áêïìá ÄÅÍ ôçÃ* å÷ïõìå äåé, ïé äéáöïñåò óôéò áÃ*áëõóåéò/frame rate (fillrate äçëáäç) ðñïåñ÷ïÃ*ôáé êáèáñá áðï ôçÃ* õðåñï÷ç óôï memmory bandwidth êáé ôá äéðëáóéá ROP ôïõ PS4, êáé äåÃ* ÷ñåéáæåôáé êáðïéá ðïëõðëïêç äéáäéêáóéá ãéá Ã*á áðïäùóåé êáëõôåñá ôï PS4, ãéáõôï ôï âëåðïõìå óå ïëá ôá multiplaform ó÷åäïÃ*. Ôï åðé÷åéñçìá óïõ áõôï äåÃ* óôåêåé åðéóçò, ãéáôé å÷ïõìå äåé ïìáäåò ðïëõ ìéêñïôåñåò áðï áõôåò ôéò ubisoft, ìå budgets áðåéñùò ìéêñïôåñá Ã*á äéÃ*ïõÃ* åêäïóåéò ìå äéáöïñåò óôï fillrate. Áëëùóôå õðçñ÷áÃ* êáé äçëùóåéò áðï developers ëéãï ðñéÃ* ôï launch ðïõ åëåãáÃ* ïôé åáÃ* ðáñåé åÃ*áÃ* åÃ*ôåëùò unoptimised êùäéêá êáé ôïÃ* ôñåîåéò óôéò äõï êïÃ*óïëåò, ôïôå áðëá ôï Ps4 áðïäéäåé ðïëõ êáëõôåñá.

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    ÄåÃ* åßðá ðùò ôá 900p äåÃ* Ý÷ïõÃ* äéáöïñÜ áðü ôá 1080p, óõãêåêñéìÝÃ*á óôï Black Flag ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé ÞôáÃ* ãñáììÝÃ*ï óå 900p êáé ìå ôï patch ÝãéÃ*å ÝÃ*á áðëü upscale óôïÃ* ôñüðï áðåéêüÃ*éóçò ôùÃ* textures. ÁÃ* ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé ÞôáÃ* ãñáììÝÃ*ï åîáñ÷Þò óôá 1080p native ôï ôåëéêü áðïôÝëåóìá èá ÞôáÃ* óáöþò êáëýôåñï ïðôéêÜ êáé èá öáéÃ*üÃ*ôïõóáÃ* ðåñéóóüôåñåò äéáöïñÝò óå ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçÃ* Ýêäïóç ôïõ One, óôçÃ* ðñÜîç üìùò äåÃ* ãßÃ*åôáé áõôü êáèþò ÝãéÃ*å ÝÃ*á êïéÃ*ï development êáé ãéá ôéò äýï ðëáôöüñìåò.
    áóôï áäåñöå, äåÃ* ôï å÷åéò óôï ôå÷Ã*éêï êïììáôé, êáé óôï ëåù åÃ*ôåëùò öéëéêá, ìçÃ* ôï óõÃ*å÷éæåéò ãéáôé äéáóõñåóáé.

  4. #5724
    Moderator
    Dec 2008
    Helghan after the bomb (aka Athens)
    7,086
    PSN ID
    Nek_Food

    ÐÜÃ*å Ã*á ôá ìðáëþóïõÃ* ìÜëëïÃ* ìå áêüìç ÝÃ*á day1 patch. ¸âãáëáÃ* áÃ*áêïßÃ*ùóç ðïõ äçìïóéåýåé ôï IGN ðïõ ïõóéáóôéêÜ ìáò ëÝÃ*å âëÜêåò ðÜëé ãéáôß Üëëá ëÝÃ*å êáé Üëëá êáôáëáâáßÃ*ïõìå.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/...ource=facebook

    "We understand how Vincent¢s quotes have been misinterpreted," reads the statement Ubisoft sent to IGN. "To set the record straight, we did not lower the specs for Assassin¢s Creed Unity to account for any one system over the other.

    Assassin¢s Creed Unity has been engineered from the ground up for next-generation consoles. Over the past 4 years, we have created Assassin¢s Creed Unity to attain the tremendous level of quality we have now achieved on Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC. It¢s a process of building up toward our goals, not scaling down, and we¢re proud to say that we have reached those goals on all SKUs.


    At no point did we decide to reduce the ambitions of either SKU. Both benefited from the full dedication of all of our available optimization resources to help them reach the level of quality we have today with the core Assassin¢s Creed Unity experience.


    Final specs for Assassin¢s Creed Unity aren¢t cemented yet, but we can say we showed Assassin¢s Creed Unity at 900p during our hands-on preview event last week. We¢re confident that gamers will be thrilled with the gorgeous graphics and how Paris is brought to life in Assassin¢s Creed Unity."

  5. odytsak (07-10-2014)

  6. #5725
    Moderator
    May 2007
    Athens
    20,548
    PSN ID
    PDS_13


    Ïé äéÜöïñåò óôçÃ* áÃ*Üëõóç êõñéáñ÷ïýÃ* ìåôáîý one êáé ps4. Å åêåß äåÃ* âëÝðù ôçÃ* ôåñÜóôéá äéáöïñÜ ðïõ åÃ*ëåðá óôçÃ* ðñïçãïýìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éÜ.
    Ìåãáëõôåñç äéáöïñá õðáñ÷åé ôùñá óôçÃ* áÃ*áëõóç.ÓôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éá ãéÃ*ïôáÃ* èåìá ôï 719p vs 720p(ðïõ ëååé ï ëïãïò)...
    Tùñá ðåñÃ*áåé óôá øçëá ôï 1080p vs 900p vs 720p.
    Eéìáé áðï áõôïõò ðïõ ðéóôåõïõÃ* ïôé äåÃ* ðáéæïõÃ* ôåñáóôéï ñïëï áõôá åöïóïÃ* ç âáóç ôïõ ðáé÷Ã*éäéïõ åéÃ*áé ç éäéá, áëëá ïê...
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  7. panos74gr (07-10-2014)

  8. #5726
    Moderator
    Oct 2010
    Thessaloniki
    13,334

    ÐÜÃ*å Ã*á ôá ìðáëþóïõÃ* ìÜëëïÃ* ìå áêüìç ÝÃ*á day1 patch. ¸âãáëáÃ* áÃ*áêïßÃ*ùóç ðïõ äçìïóéåýåé ôï IGN ðïõ ïõóéáóôéêÜ ìáò ëÝÃ*å âëÜêåò ðÜëé ãéáôß Üëëá ëÝÃ*å êáé Üëëá êáôáëáâáßÃ*ïõìå.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/07/ubisoft-clarifies-assassins-creed-unity-resolution-decision?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=Facebook
    ÔåëéêÜ æïýìå ôç ãåÃ*éÜ ôçò êùëïôïýìðáò.

  9. #5727
    PS4forums Fanatic
    Feb 2010
    Lamia
    3,105
    PSN ID
    king_james9t
    Name
    ÄçìÞôñçò

    Ñå óåéò áëÞèåéá ôï ÃéÜÃ*Ã*ç ôï ìïõãêï Ã*á ÝâáæáÃ* õðåýèõÃ*ï ôýðïõ, ðéï êáëÜ èá ôá Ýëåãå áðü áõôïýò ôçò ubisoft. ÅßÃ*áé äõÃ*áôüÃ*; Óå 12 ùñåò äýï äçëþóåéò üôé Ã*áÃ*áé ê ïé äýï.

    Spoiler!

  10. #5728
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162

    Ìåãáëõôåñç äéáöïñá õðáñ÷åé ôùñá óôçÃ* áÃ*áëõóç.ÓôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éá ãéÃ*ïôáÃ* èåìá ôï 719p vs 720p(ðïõ ëååé ï ëïãïò)...
    Tùñá ðåñÃ*áåé óôá øçëá ôï 1080p vs 900p vs 720p.
    Eéìáé áðï áõôïõò ðïõ ðéóôåõïõÃ* ïôé äåÃ* ðáéæïõÃ* ôåñáóôéï ñïëï áõôá åöïóïÃ* ç âáóç ôïõ ðáé÷Ã*éäéïõ åéÃ*áé ç éäéá, áëëá ïê...
    Íá áõôï áêñéâþò åßðá ê åãþ.êáé óõìöùÃ*þ áðüëõôá.

  11. #5729
    Stealth Moderator
    Jan 2008
    Outer Heaven
    32,600
    Name
    ÄçìÞôñçò

    ÌçÃ* ôá éóùðåäïÃ*ïõìå üëá ç áëÞèåéá ðñÝðåé Ã*á ëÝãåôáé åßôå ìáò áñÝóåé åßôå ü÷é åîÜëëïõ ÅÓÕ ðÞñåò 360 ëüãù Üèëéïõ port ôïõ mass effect êáé ôá ãñáðôÜ ìÝÃ*ïõÃ*.
    Té áêñéâùò éóïðåäùóá äåÃ* êáôáëáâá? Åóõ åéóáé ðïõ óéãá óéãá óõìöùÃ*åéò óå ïëá, ìéá óôï framerate, ìéá óôá rendering êëð.

    ÅáÃ* åóõ äåÃ* ìðïñåéò Ã*á äåéò ôçÃ* äéáöïñá ðïõ å÷åé ôï Ground Zeroes óôá 720p óôï ÏÍÅ äåÃ* óïõ öôáéù åãù, ïõôå êé åãù éóïðåäùÃ*ù ôéðïôá. Éóùò ÅÓÕ éóïðåäùÃ*åéò ôï ãåãïÃ*ïò ïôé ëéãï ðïëõ ëåò ïôé ôá 720ñ åéÃ*áé ïóá áêñéâùò ÷ñåéáæïìáóôå êáé óå áõôçÃ* ôçÃ* ãåÃ*éá. Êáé ôé ìïõ ðåôáò ôï ÌÅ3 ëåãïÃ*ôáò ìáëéóôá êáé "ôá ãñáðôá ìåÃ*ïõÃ*" ëåò êáé ðñïóðáèçóá åãù ðïôå Ã*á áÃ*áéñåóù ôï ãåãïÃ*ïò ïôé êáðïéá ðïñô óôï PS3 çôáÃ* áèëéá?? Ãéá åóåÃ*á ìðïñåé Ã*á ìçÃ* åéÃ*áé êáðïéá multi ôïõ ÏÍÅ áèëéá (ìçÃ* ðù êáé ðñïóâëçôéêá ðïõ åÃ* åôç 2014 ôï ÏÍÅ ôñå÷åé áñêåôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá óôçÃ* éäéá áÃ*áëõóç ìå ôï 360, ïê ðáóï.

    Åãù ðáÃ*ôùò ðïõ å÷ù äåé ðùò ôñå÷ïõÃ* áñêåôá ðáé÷Ã*éäéá óôï ÏÍÅ ç äéáöïñá óôï Image Quality åéÃ*áé áðï ìåãáëç åùò ôñáãéêç. ÓõÃ* ôïéò áëëïéò îáÃ*áëåìå, óôï ÏÍÅ õóôåñåé óå áëëá óçìåéá ïðùò ÁÁ, textures, shadow resolution Êëð.

    Ôùñá ðùò ïïïïëá áõôá åéÃ*áé "ìéêñïðñáãìáôá" åéëéêñéÃ*á äåÃ* ìðïñù Ã*á ôï åîçãçóù.

    Ïé äéáöïñåò óôï 95% ôùÃ* multi ìåôáîõ PS3 êáé 360 çôáÃ* ÷áùôéêá ìéêñïôåñåò êáé ÷ñåéáæïóïõÃ* ìéêñïóêïðéï Ã*á ôéò äåéò. Ôï ïôé 2-3 ðáé÷Ã*éäéá åðé óõÃ*ïëïõ 8 åôùÃ* âãçêáÃ* ðïëõ ÷áëéá óôï PS3 (ïðùò ôï ÌÅ3 ôï Skyrim êáé ôï Bayonetta) äåÃ* åéÃ*áé áÃ*ôéðñïóùðåõôéêï. Êáé ãéá Ã*á ìçÃ* ðáñåîçãçèù, ðñïâáäéóìá óôá ìïõëôé åé÷å ôï 360, áðëá ôùñá ç äéáöïñá óôçÃ* Ã*åá ãåÃ*éá åéÃ*áé ðïëõ ìåãáëõôåñç áðï ïôé çôáÃ* ôïôå. Ôïôå ëåãáìå ãéá 720ñ vs 712ñ êáôé ôåôïéá Ã*ïõìåñá... ï÷é 1080 ìå 720 êáé 1080 ìå 900...

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    ÐÜÃ*å Ã*á ôá ìðáëþóïõÃ* ìÜëëïÃ* ìå áêüìç ÝÃ*á day1 patch. ¸âãáëáÃ* áÃ*áêïßÃ*ùóç ðïõ äçìïóéåýåé ôï IGN ðïõ ïõóéáóôéêÜ ìáò ëÝÃ*å âëÜêåò ðÜëé ãéáôß Üëëá ëÝÃ*å êáé Üëëá êáôáëáâáßÃ*ïõìå.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/...ource=facebook
    Íá óöéããïõÃ* ïé êùëïé ôïõò óéãá óéãá... Ã*á ôé êáÃ*ïõÃ* ïé gamers ïôáÃ* áðáéôïõÃ* ôá äéêáéùìáôá ôïõò... ãéá Ã*á äïõìå óôçÃ* ðñáîç ôùñá...

  12. #5730
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162

    ÅÃ*ôÜîåé áëëá ëüãéá Ã* áãáðéüìáóôå áÃ* ÅÓÕ åßäåò 5-10 Üèëéá ports óôï PS3 ôüôå respect.áò ôï áöÞóïõìå êáëýôåñá.

  13. #5731
    Advanced Member
    May 2008
    Nikea
    534
    PSN ID
    Narayan64

    ôçÃ* ðåñéóóïôåñç éó÷õ (6 ðáñáðáÃ*ù CU) áêïìá ÄÅÍ ôçÃ* å÷ïõìå äåé, ïé äéáöïñåò óôéò áÃ*áëõóåéò/frame rate (fillrate äçëáäç) ðñïåñ÷ïÃ*ôáé êáèáñá áðï ôçÃ* õðåñï÷ç óôï memmory bandwidth êáé ôá äéðëáóéá ROP ôïõ PS4, êáé äåÃ* ÷ñåéáæåôáé êáðïéá ðïëõðëïêç äéáäéêáóéá ãéá Ã*á áðïäùóåé êáëõôåñá ôï PS4, ãéáõôï ôï âëåðïõìå óå ïëá ôá multiplaform ó÷åäïÃ*. Ôï åðé÷åéñçìá óïõ áõôï äåÃ* óôåêåé åðéóçò, ãéáôé å÷ïõìå äåé ïìáäåò ðïëõ ìéêñïôåñåò áðï áõôåò ôéò ubisoft, ìå budgets áðåéñùò ìéêñïôåñá Ã*á äéÃ*ïõÃ* åêäïóåéò ìå äéáöïñåò óôï fillrate. Áëëùóôå õðçñ÷áÃ* êáé äçëùóåéò áðï developers ëéãï ðñéÃ* ôï launch ðïõ åëåãáÃ* ïôé åáÃ* ðáñåé åÃ*áÃ* åÃ*ôåëùò unoptimised êùäéêá êáé ôïÃ* ôñåîåéò óôéò äõï êïÃ*óïëåò, ôïôå áðëá ôï Ps4 áðïäéäåé ðïëõ êáëõôåñá.
    ÁÃ* ßó÷õå áõôü ðïõ ëåò, äåÃ* èá Ýðñåðå Ã*á âëÝðïõìå áõôÞ ôç äéáöïñÜ óå ðåñéóóüôåñïõò ôßôëïõò; Ãéáôß ð.÷. üôáÃ* âÜæù äßðëá-äßðëá ôçÃ* Ýêäïóç PS4 ôïõ FIFA 15 ìå áõôÞ ôïõ Xbox One äåÃ* âëÝðù ôçÃ* äéáöïñÜ ðïõ äßÃ*ïõ ôá "6 ðáñáðáÃ*ù CU"; Ãéáôß äåÃ* ôï âëÝðù óôá Thief, ÍÂÁ 2Ê14 êáé Need for Speed; Ìðïñåß óôïÃ* ìÝëëïÃ* Ã*á äïýìå äéáöïñÝò áëëÜ ðñïò ôï ðáñüÃ* öáßÃ*åôáé ðùò ïé ðåñéóóüôåñïé developers Ý÷ïõÃ* áêïëïõèÞóåé ôçÃ* "åýêïëç" ïäü.

    ÌçÃ* ìðåñäÝõåóáé ìå áõôü ðïõ Ýãñáøåò óôçÃ* ôåëåõôáßá ðñüôáóç, óôçÃ* ðñÜîç äåÃ* ðñüêåéôáé Ã*á äåéò åìðïñéêü ôßôëï ðïõ Ã*á åßÃ*áé ãñáììÝÃ*ïò ÷ùñßò êáÃ*ÝÃ*á optimization (óáÃ* Java ÝÃ*á ðñÜìá äëä), óáöþò êáé ôï hardware ðïõ Ý÷åé ôï PS4 åßÃ*áé ôá÷ýôåñï êáé äåÃ* ðåñéìÝÃ*áìå Ã*á ìáò ôï ðïýÃ*å ïé developers ìå ôïÃ* unoptomized êþäéêÜ ôïõò áõôü.

    Êáé ôÝëïò, Ã*áé, ôï ðáñáäÝ÷ïìáé, äåÃ* îÝñù ðùò áêñéâþò ðÞãáìå áðü ôá 900p óôá 1080p ìå ôï day 1 patch, áÃ* ôï Þîåñá ìðïñåß Ã*á ÞìïõÃ* êáé coder. Åóý îÝñåéò ôé áêñéâþò ÝêáÃ*å ôï patch;



    ëåò êáé ðñïóðáèçóá åãù ðïôå Ã*á áÃ*áéñåóù ôï ãåãïÃ*ïò ïôé êáðïéá ðïñô óôï PS3 çôáÃ* áèëéá??
    Ðñåðåé Ã*á æåéò óå êáðïéïÃ* áëëï êïóìï Þ Ã*á å÷ïõìå Ã*á êáÃ*ïõìå ìå ôñåëç ðåñéðôùóç denial åáÃ* èåùñåéò ïôé óå áõôçÃ* ôçÃ* ãåÃ*éá å÷ïõìå éóáîéïõò ôéôëïõò multiplatform åÃ*ù óôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç õóôåñïõóå ìéá êïÃ*óïëá... ìéëáìå ãéá óïâáñï denial ïìùò!
    ÅÃ*ôÜîåé, ðáñáäÝîïõ ôï ôþñá, ôñïëëÜñåéò Ýôóé;

  14. #5732
    Moderator
    May 2007
    Athens
    20,548
    PSN ID
    PDS_13

    ÅÃ*ôÜîåé áëëá ëüãéá Ã* áãáðéüìáóôå áÃ* ÅÓÕ åßäåò 5-10 Üèëéá ports óôï PS3 ôüôå respect.áò ôï áöÞóïõìå êáëýôåñá.
    Ìá ñå óõ áõôï ðïõ óïõ ëååé åéÃ*áé ïôé ìáèçìáôéêá äåÃ* âãáéÃ*åé Ã*á ëåò áèëéá ôá ps3 ðïñôò êáé ìéá ÷áñá ôá One multiplatfrom games.
    Ç åéÃ*áé áèëéåò åêäïóåéò êáé óôéò 2 ðåñéðôùóåéò Þ áîéïðñåðåóôáôá êáé óôéò 2 ðåñéðôùóåéò(åêôïò áðï åîáéñåóåéò).
    Åãù åðéëåãù ôï 2ï áÃ* êáé ãéá ìåÃ*á õðáñ÷ïõÃ* ìåãáëõôåñåò äéáöïñåò óå áõôç ôç ãåÃ*éá.
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  15. #5733
    Stealth Moderator
    Jan 2008
    Outer Heaven
    32,600
    Name
    ÄçìÞôñçò


    Êáé ôÝëïò, Ã*áé, ôï ðáñáäÝ÷ïìáé, äåÃ* îÝñù ðùò áêñéâþò ðÞãáìå áðü ôá 900p óôá 1080p ìå ôï day 1 patch, áÃ* ôï Þîåñá ìðïñåß Ã*á ÞìïõÃ* êáé coder. Åóý îÝñåéò ôé áêñéâþò ÝêáÃ*å ôï patch;
    ÃåÃ*éêá áðï ïôé öáéÃ*åôáé ðïëëá ðñáãìáôá äåÃ* îåñåéò "áêñéâùò" áëëá áðëá êáÃ*åéò ïôé ôá îåñåéò. Ãé áõôï áóôï ãéáôé åêôéèåóáé ïðùò óïõ åéðáÃ* êáé áëëïé...

  16. #5734
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162

    Ìá äåÃ* ìå åÃ*äéáöÝñïõÃ* ôá ìáèçìáôéêÜ åìÝÃ*á ãÃ*ùñßæù ðïëõ êáëá ôéò äéÜöïñåò óôï hardware.

    Áõôï ðïõ ëÝù åéÃ*áé üôé áõôï ðïõ ÂëÝðù äåÃ* åéÃ*áé ôüóï ìåãÜëç äéáöïñÜ üóï áõôï ðïõ Ýâëåðá ðñéÃ*.êáé äåÃ* åéÃ*áé 5-10 ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá üðùò øåõäÝóôáôá áÃ*áöÝñèçêå.5-10 ÞôáÃ* ìüÃ*ï ôá cod.

    Ðñüâëçìá óôá PS3 ports õðÞñ÷å óå ïëç ôçÃ* ðñþôç äéåôßá ôçò êïÃ*óüëáò áð ôç äéåôßá êáé ìåôÜ åëáôôþèçêå ãéá Ã*á åîéóóïñùðçèåé ðñïò ôï ôÝëïò ôçò ãåÃ*éÜò.

    ÌéëÜìå ãéá ðïëõ ìåãÜëï áñéèìü ðáé÷Ã*éäéþÃ*.

  17. #5735
    Senior Member
    Sep 2014
    122

    Narayan öéëå åêôßèåóáé ì áõôÜ ðïõ ãñáöåéò áÃ* êáðïéïò ôñïëáñåé åéóáé óéãïõñá åóõ

  18. #5736
    Moderator
    May 2007
    Athens
    20,548
    PSN ID
    PDS_13

    Áõôï ðïõ ëÝù åéÃ*áé üôé áõôï ðïõ ÂëÝðù äåÃ* åéÃ*áé ôüóï ìåãÜëç äéáöïñÜ üóï áõôï ðïõ Ýâëåðá ðñéÃ*.êáé äåÃ* åéÃ*áé 5-10 ðáé÷Ã*ßäéá üðùò øåõäÝóôáôá áÃ*áöÝñèçêå.5-10 ÞôáÃ* ìüÃ*ï ôá cod.
    Tá cod êáé óôá 2 óõóôçìáôá(ps360) åðáéæáÃ* óôéò áÃ*áëõóåéò 1024x600 ðáÃ*ù êáôù.
    Ôï COD ðïõ âãçêå óôá ps4/one å÷åé äéáöïñá 720p vs 1080p.
    ÄåÃ* ãéÃ*åôáé Ã*á õðçñ÷å ìåãáëõôåñç äéáöïñá ôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éá..
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  19. #5737
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162

    Êáé üìùò õðÞñ÷å!êáé áõôï áêñéâþò ëÝù áð ôçÃ* áñ÷Þ !ôá textures óôï PS3 õóôåñïýóáÃ* êáôá ðïëõ,ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé óåñÃ*üôáÃ* êáé ÞôáÃ* ãåìÜôï èïëïýñá óå áÃ*ôßöáóç ìå ôï 360 ðïõ ãõÜëéæå êáé Ýôñå÷å Ã*åñü.êáé üìùò åß÷áÃ* êïéÃ*Þ áÃ*Üëõóç êáé frame rate!

  20. #5738
    Moderator
    May 2007
    Athens
    20,548
    PSN ID
    PDS_13

    Êáé üìùò õðÞñ÷å!êáé áõôï áêñéâþò ëÝù áð ôçÃ* áñ÷Þ !ôá textures óôï PS3 õóôåñïýóáÃ* êáôá ðïëõ,ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé óåñÃ*üôáÃ* êáé ÞôáÃ* ãåìÜôï èïëïýñá óå áÃ*ôßöáóç ìå ôï 360 ðïõ ãõÜëéæå êáé Ýôñå÷å Ã*åñü.êáé üìùò åß÷áÃ* êïéÃ*Þ áÃ*Üëõóç êáé frame rate!
    Õðçñ÷å óå êáðïéïõò ôïìåéò, áðëá áõôï ðïõ óïõ ëåù åéÃ*áé ïôé ôå÷Ã*éêá ïôáÃ* å÷ïõìå ôåôïéåò äéáöïñåò áÃ*áëõóçò, ôï áðïôåëåóìá äéáöïñáò äåÃ* ìðïñåé Ã*á åéÃ*áé éóáîéï.
    ÄåÃ* åé÷áìå ðïôå ôåôïéåò äéáöïñåò áÃ*áëõóçò óôçÃ* ðñïçãïõìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éá.ÁÃ* ìðïñïõóáÃ* èá ôï åêáÃ*áÃ* êáé äåÃ* èá åìåÃ*áÃ* óå 2-3 frames ðáñáðáÃ*ù ç êáëõôåñï ÁÁ.
    ÓôçÃ* HD ÔV ç áëçèåéá åéÃ*áé ïôé êáÃ*åé ìðáì ç sub-HD áÃ*áëõóç(óå óõãêñéóç ìå ôçÃ* êáèáñá 720p) êáé áò å÷åé ìéêñïôåñç äéáöïñá óôá ÷áñôéá áðï 720p-1080p.
    Éóùò ãéá áõôï êáðïéïé ðéóôåõïõÃ* ïôé õðçñ÷áÃ* ìåãáëõôåñåò äéáöïñåò ôïôå.
    Ôï 1080p èåëåé êáé ìåãáëç tv.
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  21. #5739
    Stealth Moderator
    Jan 2008
    Outer Heaven
    32,600
    Name
    ÄçìÞôñçò


    ÅÃ*ôÜîåé, ðáñáäÝîïõ ôï ôþñá, ôñïëëÜñåéò Ýôóé;
    Ï÷é áðëá ëïãéêá ôï reading comprehension level óïõ åéÃ*áé ðáñá ìá ðáñá ìá ðáñá ðïëõ ÷áìçëï... êáé óõÃ*å÷éæåéò Ã*á åêèåôåéò ï÷é ìïÃ*ï ôéò ãÃ*ùóåéò óïõ, áëëá êáé áëëá ðñáãìáôá ôáõôï÷ñïÃ*á...

  22. #5740
    PS4forums Addict
    Dec 2013
    2,162

    ÄåÃ* åéÃ*áé áõôï.
    ÓôçÃ* ðñïçãïýìåÃ*ç ãåÃ*éÜ ôï ðáé÷Ã*ßäé ÞôáÃ* óå êïéÃ*Þ áÃ*Üëõóç-frames áëëá ÕðÞñ÷å ðñüâëçìá óôá ports ëüãù äéáöïñåôéêÞò áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞò. Ìå áðïôÝëåóìá ó÷åäüÃ* üëá üóá ãßÃ*ïÃ*ôáÃ* port áðï 360 óå ps3 Ã*á Ý÷ïõÃ* ðïëõ ìåãÜëï ðñüâëçìá.

    Ôùñá ç áñ÷éôåêôïÃ*éêÞ åéÃ*áé ßäéá ìå áðïôÝëåóìá ïé äéÜöïñåò Ã*á åéÃ*áé üôé ìðïñåß Ã*á ðéÜóåé ôï ìÜôé óïõ áð ôçÃ* äéáöïñÜ áÃ*Üëõóçò.

    Óïõ äçëþÃ*ù ëïéðüÃ* üôé ôï next gen cod Ý÷åé ðïëõ ìéêñüôåñç ïðôéêÞ äéáöïñÜ Áð ôï last gen.