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28-04-2010, 13:04
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28-04-2010, 13:06
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28-04-2010, 13:07
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28-04-2010, 13:14
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28-04-2010, 13:21
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28-04-2010, 13:26
sto 4 thelo na pisteyo oti ennoeis katarghsh ths paroysas katastashs ston syndikalismo k anadiorganosh toy me bash ta symferonta ton ergazomenon k oxi ta prosopika toy kathe ergatopatera k metepeita boyleyth.....kalytero tha htan katarghsh toy komatikopoihmenoy syndikalismoy..

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28-04-2010, 14:30
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28-04-2010, 16:22
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28-04-2010, 16:50


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28-04-2010, 17:09
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28-04-2010, 17:16
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jimspy
29-04-2010, 00:03
......^^.... sthn argentinh ,sthn islandia, sthn letonia, sthn tsexia, sthn oygaria, ktl poy k ekei mphke to dnt ....k se aytoys poy tha mpoun sthn synexeia portogalia italia, ispania irlandia ktl... ekei poios tha ftaiei ?....paly o poliths ?..... to paixnidi paizete alloy ....oi dhmosies dapanes nai men yparxoyn alla den einai o pragmatikos logos ths olhs katastashs....einai apla h dikaiologia....

vasses
29-04-2010, 02:41
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liberostelios
29-04-2010, 05:17
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29-04-2010, 12:46
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29-04-2010, 13:09
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AgentPrinny007
29-04-2010, 13:24
....mia eykairia pantos ego blepo (den einai foverh alla einai eykairia)..... na katalabei o kosmos oti prepei na antidrasei stoys mayragorites..... dyskolo bebaia me thn plysh egkefaloy poy ginete alla oxi anefikto..oi synthikes einai kales k se ligo xrono, idanikes.......

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29-04-2010, 13:29
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29-04-2010, 14:29
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29-04-2010, 14:41
to leei k o ''eidikos'', o epagelmatias politikos alloste...
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edo oi theseis toy eidikoy ths alhtheias
http://www.express.gr/news/finance/295942oz_201004272
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29-04-2010, 14:52
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29-04-2010, 15:24
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29-04-2010, 15:48
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29-04-2010, 20:09


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29-04-2010, 20:22
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jimspy
30-04-2010, 11:08
2007, 2008 2009 (http://skiesexplorer.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/%cf%87%cf%81%ce%b5%ce%b7-%ce%ba%cf%81%ce%b1%cf%84%cf%89%ce%bd-%ce%bc%ce%b5-%cf%83%cf%84%ce%bf%ce%b9%cf%87%ce%b5%ce%b9%ce%b1-%ce%b1%cf%80%ce%bf-2007-2008-%ce%ba%ce%b1%ce%b9-2009/)


k se ayta ta krath paly oi ergazomenoi, tempelhdes, kyfynes, xaramofahdes arage ftaine? opos diatympanizoyn oi yposthriktes toy dogmatos ''mhn antidras-katse spiti, mhn apergeis - blepe tv''....k eniote gine k royfianos....

pictorino
30-04-2010, 11:15
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......^^.... sthn argentinh ,sthn islandia, sthn letonia, sthn tsexia, sthn oygaria, ktl poy k ekei mphke to dnt ....k se aytoys poy tha mpoun sthn synexeia portogalia italia, ispania irlandia ktl... ekei poios tha ftaiei ?....paly o poliths ?..... to paixnidi paizete alloy ....oi dhmosies dapanes nai men yparxoyn alla den einai o pragmatikos logos ths olhs katastashs....einai apla h dikaiologia....

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30-04-2010, 11:28
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30-04-2010, 11:45
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30-04-2010, 12:41
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30-04-2010, 13:37
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30-04-2010, 14:26
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jimspy
30-04-2010, 17:02
otan ola ta krath se pagkosmio epipedo exoyn terastia xreh to problhma den einai oyte oi polites oyte oi ergazomenoi poy tha thn plhrosoyn sto telos ....mhn epikentroneste mono ston elladiko xoro k deite gia mia fora ti symbainei k ektos ths xoras........to problhma einai oti to paron pagkosmio oikonomiko systhma ths eleytherhs agoras exei ferei se deinh oikonomikh thesh ta krath k exei epofelisei toys ligoys..........akoma k oi ''xazoi'' amerikanoi exoun katalabei ti ginete k diamartyronte http://tvxs.gr/news/%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%82/%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%B4%CE%AE%CE%BB%CF%89%CF%83%C E%B7-%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%AC%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF-%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%B6%CE%B9%CE%BA%C F%8C-%CF%83%CF%8D%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82-%CE%B7%CF%80%CE%B1 ....gia emas toys ellhnes poy tosa xronia akoloythoysame san probata to politiko systhma ths xoras eksakoloythoyme na pisteyoume oti to idio politiko systhma poy mas odhghse sthn shmerinh katastash tha mas bgalei k apo aythn me thn gnosth methodo toy plhrose polith k ergazomene.....eimaste ontos aksioi ths moiras mas ....

pictorino
30-04-2010, 22:14
otan ola ta krath se pagkosmio epipedo exoyn terastia xreh to problhma den einai oyte oi polites oyte oi ergazomenoi poy tha thn plhrosoyn sto telos ....mhn epikentroneste mono ston elladiko xoro k deite gia mia fora ti symbainei k ektos ths xoras........to problhma einai oti to paron pagkosmio oikonomiko systhma ths eleytherhs agoras exei ferei se deinh oikonomikh thesh ta krath k exei epofelisei toys ligoys..........akoma k oi ''xazoi'' amerikanoi exoun katalabei ti ginete k diamartyronte http://tvxs.gr/news/%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%83%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%82/%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%B4%CE%AE%CE%BB%CF%89%CF%83%C E%B7-%CE%B5%CE%BD%CE%AC%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF-%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%B6%CE%B9%CE%BA%C F%8C-%CF%83%CF%8D%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%B1-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B9%CF%82-%CE%B7%CF%80%CE%B1 ....gia emas toys ellhnes poy tosa xronia akoloythoysame san probata to politiko systhma ths xoras eksakoloythoyme na pisteyoume oti to idio politiko systhma poy mas odhghse sthn shmerinh katastash tha mas bgalei k apo aythn me thn gnosth methodo toy plhrose polith k ergazomene.....eimaste ontos aksioi ths moiras mas ....

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jimspy
30-04-2010, 22:33
koita h arxh en olighs toy shmerinoy kapitalismoy k toy oikonomikoy systhmatos einai h emporeymatopoihsei ton panton me skopo to oso to dynaton megalytero kerdos.....ta panta pou liounte k agorazonte shmera logo toy systhmatos mesa sto opoio zoyme k pou ayto epibalei na kaneis gia na exeis kerdos.....den mporo na kathgoriso ton kosmo , oyte toys politikoys otan kanoun kati gia to kerdos oso apexthes k an einai afoy to idio to systhma exei os arxh to kerdos xrhsimopoiontas tis idies methodoys emporeymatopoihshs oxi mono ylikon agathon alla k ths texnhs , ton ideon , ton pisteyo toy kathenos, synaisthimaton ktl...akoma k me thn methodo ths diastrebloshs ths alhtheias k ths eksagoras syneideiseon....

des ti legane merika xronia prin dyo diaforetikes antilhpseis.......
http://archive.enet.gr/online/online_text/c=111,dt=29.09.2008,id=67105584
http://indy.gr/other-press/private-equity-o-neos-kapitalismos

k bres alhtheies k psemmata, koina shmeia k diafores .........

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01-05-2010, 00:08
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01-05-2010, 16:25
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desperate_gamer
01-05-2010, 19:07
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01-05-2010, 19:35
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01-05-2010, 22:10
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02-05-2010, 00:49
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02-05-2010, 01:57
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02-05-2010, 11:54
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Simfono apolitos me tis meioseis voulefton, ipsilovatmon klp. Xlomo omos distixos...

Ta idia me ekklisia...

Gia paraoikonomia me ti sindesi aforologitou/apodeikseos mallon meiosi tha epelthi para afksisi. Tha to doume omos.

Oi meioseis 13ou-14ou eine gia dimosio i ke ton idiotiko tomea? Den eida akomi idiseis opote opoios kserei as mas pei ki edo.

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02-05-2010, 17:39
Simfono apolitos me tis meioseis voulefton, ipsilovatmon klp. Xlomo omos distixos...

Ta idia me ekklisia...

Gia paraoikonomia me ti sindesi aforologitou/apodeikseos mallon meiosi tha epelthi para afksisi. Tha to doume omos.

Oi meioseis 13ou-14ou eine gia dimosio i ke ton idiotiko tomea? Den eida akomi idiseis opote opoios kserei as mas pei ki edo.To zougla.gr :

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xarhss
02-05-2010, 17:40
Simfono apolitos me tis meioseis voulefton, ipsilovatmon klp. Xlomo omos distixos...

Ta idia me ekklisia...

Gia paraoikonomia me ti sindesi aforologitou/apodeikseos mallon meiosi tha epelthi para afksisi. Tha to doume omos.

Oi meioseis 13ou-14ou eine gia dimosio i ke ton idiotiko tomea? Den eida akomi idiseis opote opoios kserei as mas pei ki edo.




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MilitaryRaiden
02-05-2010, 18:01


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Den katalaveno ti grafeis, signomi... An mboreis ksanagrapse kathara ti thes na peis - an ki ego me ta greeklish den dikeoume na omilo alla telospandon...

xarhss
02-05-2010, 18:07
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redismagik
02-05-2010, 18:16
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ego prosopika eime poli uper sto katargithei i monomotita sto dimosio.opos ki theoro adianooito na perneis sintaji sta 45-50 pou isxeiei gia polous apo autous.terma pia ta ''komatoskila'' ki oi koprites.....pou nomizoun oti epiasan to papa apo ta @@@@@!arketa tous plirosame!

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02-05-2010, 18:38
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02-05-2010, 18:43
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02-05-2010, 21:57
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02-05-2010, 21:58
koinonikh adikia yparxei giati tosa xronia to kratos exei kataferei na diaxorisei toys ergazomenoys....etsi oi idiotikoi ypallhloi anti na prospathisoyn na apokthsoyn ta idia nomima k syntagmatika epikyromena dikaiomata me ayta ton dhm.ypallhlon analononte sto na kathgoroyn toys dhmosioys epeidh plhrononte kanonika tis yperories toys , pairnoun kanonika ta nomima epidomata toys ktl.....kati poy fysika den symbainei ston idiotiko tomea....alla gia ayto den ftaine oi dhm.ypallhloi alla oi idioi oi idiotikoi pou pote den exoyn kanei mia syntonismenh prospatheia na apaithsoyn ta nomima apo toys ergodotes toys....alla menoyn sthn eykolh lysh oti ftaine oi dhm. ypallhloi.....


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02-05-2010, 22:00
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02-05-2010, 22:12
xarh milas gia epidomata poy yparxoyn se mia dyo dhmosies yphrhsies .....k parepiptontos ayta pou les einai ths takshs ton 7 k 4 eyro antistoixa.....ego soy leo gia sobara epidomata opos to oikogeneiako , to teknon to spoydon , to anthigeiiinhs k epikidynhs ergasias to epidoma tameioy ....poy ston idiotiko tomea tis perissoteres fores den dinonte eno kanonika tha eprpepe....gia ayta pote kaneis den exei diamartyrithei ...oso afora to pos antimetopizoyn oi to koino sto ika antistoixh antimetopisei mporeis na synanthseis pantoy k oxi mono sto dhmosio....einai thema anthropoy...

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02-05-2010, 22:21
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02-05-2010, 23:07
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02-05-2010, 23:19
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03-05-2010, 11:32
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03-05-2010, 11:42
ksexnas omos to basiko ....oti oi yperogkes dapanes toy dhmosioy den eginan logo ton dhmosion ypallhlon alla logo ths syndiallaghs toy kratoys me idiotikes epixeirhseis ...anafereis k toys olympiakoys agones poy ola ta erga poy kostisan dis ta anelaban oi kataskeyastikes toy mpompola k toy synafioy toy eis baros ton ergazomenon toso ston idiotiko oso k ston dhmosio tomea....gia na mhn anaferoyme ta skandala ths siemens, intrakom ktl....ta bonus sta opoia anaferese bebaia den ta pernoun to 28% ton ergazomenon sto dhmosio alla mia meiopshfia opos symbainei k ston idiotiko tomea.....k nai karagkiozhdes einai osoi sthrizoyn ayth thn katastash kathe 4 xronia....k sthn telikh akoma pio karagkiozhdes aytoi poy thn sthrizoyn xoris na exoyn to paramikro ofelos

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03-05-2010, 11:47
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03-05-2010, 11:53
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03-05-2010, 12:49
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04-05-2010, 04:37
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04-05-2010, 22:43
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05-05-2010, 00:46
exei ginei geloia pia h katastash k ta mikrokommatika toys symferonta k paixnidia......mexri xthes eixe katsei sthn gonia k sfyrize adiafora san na mhn symbainei tipota k tora poy eide oti o kosmos den psinete gia dnt brhke eykairia na arpaksei kana probato sto mantri toy......kala kratei to doulema.....
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05-05-2010, 01:02
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nikon
08-05-2010, 08:49
YouTube- Ψα�ιαν��-�εν�ίναι �λοι �διοι Mar'10

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vasses
08-05-2010, 10:58
Game over euro

http://press-gr.blogspot.com/2010/05/blog-post_7395.html


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redismagik
08-05-2010, 11:54
YouTube- Ψα�ιαν��-�εν�ίναι �λοι �διοι Mar'10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eQM6VRHBbY&feature=player_embedded)

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to telioma eine olo to rezoume tis omilias!mpravo niko gia to videaki de to eixa dei...!

jimspy
08-05-2010, 12:29
mia xara ta leei gia allh mia fora o psarianos..k sigoyra etsi einai ta pragmata.....alla perimena me agonia na akoyso poios o dikos toy rolos sto mpoyrdelo sto opoio ''ergazete'' k palepse gia na mpei k den ton akousa pote k ti prospatheies exei kanei aytos k to komma toy (poy sigoyra einai to pio sympathitiko k dhmokratiko giati apotelei mia plithora diaforetikon k paremferon ideologion) ..... nomizo tetoia diaggelmata otan akoygonte katopin eorths den exoun kamia xrhstikh k oysiodh shmasia.....ola ayta pou leei o psarianos tora tha eprepe na ta eixe pei xronia prin....alla an ta elege otan eprepe ayth thn stigmh den tha htan sto koinoboylio alla sto politiko perithorio opos dialeksan na einai aytoi pou ta legane, ta lene k pragmatika ta pisteyoun me to opoio politiko kostos...

vasses
09-05-2010, 11:56
http://press-gr.blogspot.com/2010/05/blog-post_5266.html

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09-05-2010, 12:13
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to thema den einai na xrhsimopoieithei tetoioy eidoys bia giati to mono poy tha apoferei akoma k an anatrapei to katesthmeno tha einai ena allo idio katesthmeno me idioys oroys k arxes me to shmerino .....ths bias , ths adikias , ths mh eleytherias k ths diaftoras apla me alloys ekprosopous....an bebaia den ginei kati syntoma h katastash ekei tha odhghthei me mathimatikh akribeia.....
h lysh den einai h anatroph ....h lysh einai h anastrofh ths koinonias ....

modecris
09-05-2010, 14:52
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jimspy
09-05-2010, 15:39
kapoy kaneis lathos..... to poiotiko tha to agoraseis giati apla den anexese na to exeis se antigrafo.....thn saboyra ths bandh k ths kokkinou omos epetrepse mou na mhn thn agoraso k na thn katebaso apo torrent k apo to internet afoy etsi k allios se liges meres tha to sbhso.....

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09-05-2010, 18:41
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09-05-2010, 18:54
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modecris
09-05-2010, 19:19
kapoy kaneis lathos..... to poiotiko tha to agoraseis giati apla den anexese na to exeis se antigrafo.....thn saboyra ths bandh k ths kokkinou omos epetrepse mou na mhn thn agoraso k na thn katebaso apo torrent k apo to internet afoy etsi k allios se liges meres tha to sbhso.....

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09-05-2010, 19:27
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^^ 1.3 4 , super!

to savoyra bandh ktl...htan sxhma logoy....ennoousa kati gia to opoio den gnorizeis k to katebazeis gia na deis ti paizei....px.....gia posa games ...eidika paliotera (pio mikroi ennoontas poy energoysame diaforetika k pio aythormita se tetoia themata) den exete brisei ton eauto sas pou phgate k agorasate k apodeixthikan athlia k xoris na aggizoun se poiotita ta xrhmata ta opoia dosate.....an ta eixame katebasei tha glitoname oloi apo to petama lefton se saboyres poy mas plasarei o katanalotismos...

ps. asxeto alla eidika gia thn moysikh k genikotera gia thn texnh exo diaforetikh apopsh oson afora thn emporeymatopoihsh ths...

ps2.k to offtopic synexizete ...

jimspy
10-05-2010, 01:00
http://bloopers-test.blogspot.com/2010/04/goldman-sachs.html

jimspy
11-05-2010, 00:25
YouTube- Daniel Cohn-Bendit (ελληνικοί υπότιτλοι) sur l'aide financière * la Grèce

Melnibonian
11-05-2010, 00:35
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jimspy
11-05-2010, 01:41
YouTube- Daniel Cohn-Bendit (ελληνικοί �����οι) sur l'aide financière * la Grèce (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7fnJCmbuPU)

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jimspy
11-05-2010, 17:20
margin call;


(http://frapezitis.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/%cf%80%cf%89%ce%bb%ce%b7%cf%84%ce%ae%cf%81%ce%b9%c e%bf-%cf%85%cf%80%cf%8c-%cf%84%ce%b7%ce%bd-%cf%80%ce%af%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b7-margin-call/#comments)
http://frapezitis.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/focus1.jpg?w=143&h=274 (http://frapezitis.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/focus1.jpg) . 300 . . . . . “” ( 150 - .4 http://www.mof-glk.gr/ekdoseis/dhmosio_xreos/56.pdf). “” . ( ) ( ) ( 2 . ) : !
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vasses
11-05-2010, 22:40
margin call;


(http://frapezitis.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/%cf%80%cf%89%ce%bb%ce%b7%cf%84%ce%ae%cf%81%ce%b9%c e%bf-%cf%85%cf%80%cf%8c-%cf%84%ce%b7%ce%bd-%cf%80%ce%af%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b7-margin-call/#comments)
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polloi den exoyn katalabei akoma ti paei na symbei k areskonte se fantasioseis toy typou '' xreiazotan gia na mpei taksh '' , ''kala na pathoun oi dhmosioi''k sxetikes mpoyrdologies.....

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erxete h seira k gia osous xeirokrotoysan ta metra gia ton dhmosio tomea......
polloi den exoyn katalabei akoma ti paei na symbei k areskonte se fantasioseis toy typou '' xreiazotan gia na mpei taksh '' , ''kala na pathoun oi dhmosioi''k sxetikes mpoyrdologies.....



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pictorino
12-05-2010, 22:32
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12-05-2010, 23:03
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jimspy
12-05-2010, 23:24
den ftaine panta oi ypallhloi ......o tropos leitoyrgias toy dhmosioy einai xalia... h grafeiokratia , h roysfetologia k h kakodiaxeirhsh einai eythinh toy kratikoy mhxanismoy k oxi ton ypallhlon.....xoris ayto na shmainei oti den yparxoun kakoi k axrhstoi ypallhloi ....
telos h ekpaideysh einai elleiphs stis nees texnologies poy tha ekanan pio apotelesmatikh thn kratikh mhxanh .....gia thn kakh lritoyrgia toy kratoys ftaine polloi paragontes k oxi mono oi dhmosioi ypallhloi......einai h eykolh lysh na kathgoreis ton ypallhlo k na mhn blepeis poy pragmatika einai to problhma......propersy kahke h mish ellada k yphrxan anthropoi pou kathgorhsan thn pyrosbestikh gia ayto eno oi anthropoi paleyan meronykta me tis foties k h elleipsh prosopikoy afhse polla oxhmata sta gkaraz ton tmhmaton.....to kratos den exei yperaritmhoys ypallhlous ..isos to antitheto...... to kratos apla den exei kanei sosth dianomh ton ypallhlon stis yphrhsies toy k se ayto den ftaine oi ypallhloi.....

pictorino
13-05-2010, 13:55
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jimspy
13-05-2010, 14:07
entaksi me ypallhlous milas oi opoioi stelnoun to aithma soy sta grafeia apo ekei stis armodies yphrhsies ....meta prepei na parei egkrish to aithma k na dothei entolh stoys armodioys ypallhlous na bgoune na to ftiaksoyn an bebaia den yparxei allh protaireoothta.....afoy den gnorizeis pos leitoyrgei to dhmosio k den exeis mpei pote ston kopo na matheis alla mono na kathgoreis toys ypallhloys gia toys prosopikoys soy logoys..... ...k ama pane na to ftiaksoyn k kleisoyn to dromo paly oi ypallhloi tha sou ftaine giati parempodizoun thn kykloforia k den mporeis na pas syntoma sthn doyleia soy.....

pictorino
13-05-2010, 14:14
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jimspy
13-05-2010, 14:26
kala diabase ayto gia na deis ti ginete me toys axrhstoys ypallhloys allhs DEKO gia na ikanopoihseis ton fthono sou gapo thn mia gia ton tropo pou ergazonte k apo thn allh na nioseis dikaiomenos gia tis antilhpseis tis dikes soy, toy xatzhnikolaou k toy adoni peri plithoras ypallhlon.....
http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?catid=11379&subid=2&pubid=3828788

pictorino
13-05-2010, 14:40
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jimspy
13-05-2010, 15:04
esy pas mia xara dhladh.... .....gia tis spatales , thn kakodiaxeirish k thn grafeikratia toy dhmosioy k gia ola ta asxhma toy topou soy ftaine oi ypallhloi.....an den deixnei fthono ayto tote ti deixnei?.....

pictorino
13-05-2010, 16:39
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Chill
13-05-2010, 18:05
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13-05-2010, 19:15
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13-05-2010, 19:40
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jimspy
13-05-2010, 22:20
Jimspy, . . - 300, - . .
dystyxos den thelete na deite to tora k zeite polla xronia piso se allesd epoxes........h alhtheia einai diaforetikh apo ayto poy se exoun peisei ta kanalia ..... se sxesh me toys diagonismoys sto dhmosio (den milao gia dhmous ota ktl) mono mia mikrh meiopshfia einai paraksenoi k sthmenoi k aytoi se poly liges yphrhsies poy einai kathara pronomiakes......isos na eginan perissoteroi me thn prosthikh ths koroidias ths synenteykshs ton teleytaio 2xrono.....omos ayto den isxyei stoys perissoterous diagonismous.....an exeis ta apaitoymena moria k ta analoga prosonta den ginete na mhn peraseis..........
to allo paramythi poy se exoun peisei einai gia ton arithmo ton dhmosion ypallhlon.....oi mises yphrhsies toy dhmosioy ypoleitoyrgoun logo elleipshs prosopikou pou kalyptete me thn apath ton symbasiouxon k ton stage ..... to 30% ton iatrikon kentron sthn eparxia ypoleitoyrgei h den leitoyrgei katholoy eno ypersygxrones yphrhsies nosokomeion den leitoyrgoyn logo elleipshs prosopikou........ayto einai ena paradeigma apo ta 10ades poy yparxoun oson afora thn elleipsh prosopikoy se dhmosies yphrhsies.....des epishs toys pinakes gia ta pososta ton dhm.ypallhlon ton allon eyropaikon xoron k tha katalabeis poso ligoi einai oi dhm.ypallhloi sthn ellada........



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Melnibonian
13-05-2010, 22:57
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Chill
13-05-2010, 23:07
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jimspy
13-05-2010, 23:11
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tote exoume diaforetikoys gnostoys k filoys......ego den exo kanenan .....
ps. kaneis den eipe oti zeis sthn aystralia....alla kalo tha htan na rixneis mia matia k ti ginete ekso apo thn xora soy gia na dieyryneis ligo thn kritikh soy ikanotita k gia na mporeis na milas k me kapoia stoixeia k oxi me aerologies gia enan dyo filoys soy pou mphkan sto dhmosio xoris diagonismo h me meso xoris na elenkseis se ti theseis mpikan .... an nomizeis k exeis pepistei oti oi nosokomoi, oi ypallhloi toy ika, oi daskaloi , oi kathightes k tosoi alloi mpenoun me meso tote ftaiei to kanali.....dhmosio den einai mono oi pronomioyxes theseis ths boulhs k ta dieythintika stelexoi....aytes einai mia mikrh meiopsifia ston dhmosio tomea .....k telos an den theleis na ksereis ton arithmo ton dhmosion analogika me ton plithismo allon kraton k na ton sygkrineis me ayton ths elladas tote den zeis se ena ksexasmeno bouno alla hthelimena zeis sto psemma pou boleyei olous gia na dikaiologhsoyn tis mizes k tis spatales toy dhmosioy k to ksepoylhma toy se idiotikes epixeirhseis.....

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14-05-2010, 23:30
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.....ola gia tis trapezes..... misthoi, syntakseis , dora, apolyseis, anergia....arkei na mhn xasoun oyte eyro ta afentika., oi foniades bgenopouloi k oi alloi tokoglygoi....

le_71
19-05-2010, 11:43
10 . (http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?catid=11379&subid=2&pubid=12064946)


.....ola gia tis trapezes..... misthoi, syntakseis , dora, apolyseis, anergia....arkei na mhn xasoun oyte eyro ta afentika., oi foniades bgenopouloi k oi alloi tokoglygoi....

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19-05-2010, 12:34
den katalaba to den einai etsi......oti esy eftiakse thn epixeirhsh sou me daneio den anairei thn pragmatikotita oti kobonte misthoi , syntakseis ktl gia ena daneio apo trapeza opoy meros toy tha paei stis trapezes .....ektos k an pisteyeis oti oi trapezes einai oi megales xamenes ths istorias tora me to dnt k paliotera me tis katadikastikes apofaseis dikasthrion (poy bebaia pote den ylopoihthikan) gia panotokia , kataxrhstikoys oroys ktl..... ....
oi trapezes synthroyn xiliades oikogeneies alla einai ypeythines k gia thn katastrofh poly perissoteron....
..... oso gia ta alla pou les akoma perimenoume to porisma apo thn pyrosbestikh k thn astynomia gia to kata poso htan katallhlo to ktisma k an throyse ta metra asfaleias poy epebalei o nomos gia tis trapezes opos apaitei epishma h otoe me thn anakoinosh ths........
ps. tha bgei pantos syntoma mias k exthes ebgale istorikh k dakrybrexth anakoinosh o brenopoulos pou deixnei to dromo k sthn pyrosbestikh k thn astynomia
ps2. pros plhroforhsh sto dnt k sthn pagkosmia trapeza anoikei h deutche bank poy einai o kyrios xrhmatodoths-melos ths eyropaikhs trapezas sthn opoia anhkei h trapeza ths elladas h opoia elegxei tis ypoloipes......

nikon
19-05-2010, 12:52
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le_71
19-05-2010, 13:10
den katalaba to den einai etsi......oti esy eftiakse thn epixeirhsh sou me daneio den anairei thn pragmatikotita oti kobonte misthoi , syntakseis ktl gia ena daneio apo trapeza opoy meros toy tha paei stis trapezes .....ektos k an pisteyeis oti oi trapezes einai oi megales xamenes ths istorias tora me to dnt k paliotera me tis katadikastikes apofaseis dikasthrion (poy bebaia pote den ylopoihthikan) gia panotokia , kataxrhstikoys oroys ktl..... ....
oi trapezes synthroyn xiliades oikogeneies alla einai ypeythines k gia thn katastrofh poly perissoteron....
..... oso gia ta alla pou les akoma perimenoume to porisma apo thn pyrosbestikh k thn astynomia gia to kata poso htan katallhlo to ktisma k an throyse ta metra asfaleias poy epebalei o nomos gia tis trapezes opos apaitei epishma h otoe me thn anakoinosh ths........
ps. tha bgei pantos syntoma mias k exthes ebgale istorikh k dakrybrexth anakoinosh o brenopoulos pou deixnei to dromo k sthn pyrosbestikh k thn astynomia
ps2. pros plhroforhsh sto dnt k sthn pagkosmia trapeza anoikei h deutche bank poy einai o kyrios xrhmatodoths-melos ths eyropaikhs trapezas sthn opoia anhkei h trapeza ths elladas h opoia elegxei tis ypoloipes......

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jimspy
19-05-2010, 13:25
k ego to egrapsa mia fora alla oyte esy katalabes thn oysia........ k meneis k esy k o nikon sthn epifaneia poy den eipe kaneis oti den exeis dikio h adiko .......

den katalaba to den einai etsi......oti esy eftiakse thn epixeirhsh sou me daneio den anairei thn pragmatikotita oti kobonte misthoi , syntakseis ktl gia ena daneio apo trapeza opoy meros toy tha paei stis trapezes .....ektos k an pisteyeis oti oi trapezes einai oi megales xamenes ths istorias tora me to dnt k paliotera me tis katadikastikes apofaseis dikasthrion (poy bebaia pote den ylopoihthikan) gia panotokia , kataxrhstikoys oroys ktl..... ....

NonBorn
19-05-2010, 13:32
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jimspy
19-05-2010, 13:38
to diko soy ayriano mistho den ston koboyn ? monon ayton poy les koboyn.....?
pos den se rothse....edo k 7 xronia psifhzeis.....exeis thn dynamh sta xeria soy opos lene...
giati theoreis ypoxreosh sou na ksoflhseis tis mlkies toys? ..... apaithse thn diagrafh enos xreous poy soy fortothike xoris na ftais ....

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19-05-2010, 13:38
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19-05-2010, 19:38
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19-05-2010, 20:43
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21-05-2010, 23:16
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26-05-2010, 10:33
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03-06-2010, 19:05
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04-06-2010, 15:48
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04-06-2010, 18:01
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04-06-2010, 18:45
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04-06-2010, 19:34

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05-06-2010, 01:23
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07-06-2010, 10:31
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07-06-2010, 10:37
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07-06-2010, 13:46
h katareysh toy pagkosmioy oikonomikoy systhmatos einai h aitia ths ptoshs ths ellhnikhs oikonomias k ton shmerinon katastaseon....... to post #465 (http://www.ps3forums.gr/vb/showpost.php?p=200274&postcount=465)
to apodyknyei ksekathara...
h ellhnikh pathogeneia einai problhma alla k na diorthothei kanena apotelesma den tha ferei efoson h oikonomia mas sthrizete k elegxete apo ena eyropaiko h pagkosmio sythma ypo katareysh....

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07-06-2010, 17:13
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07-06-2010, 19:17
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07-06-2010, 22:59
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07-06-2010, 23:14
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07-06-2010, 23:22
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07-06-2010, 23:32
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07-06-2010, 23:45
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08-06-2010, 07:18
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08-06-2010, 09:23
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08-06-2010, 09:44
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08-06-2010, 13:22
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08-06-2010, 14:58
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08-06-2010, 16:04
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08-06-2010, 16:06
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opos ki na ginei to rezoume tha eine to idio.emeis apo tin meria pou eine ta thimata....!

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08-06-2010, 16:12
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jimspy
08-06-2010, 16:21
to egxeirhma toy eyro k enos eniaioy eyropaikoy oikonomikoy systhmatos htan eks arxhs katadikasmeno......
o logos enas k aplos.....
den mporei h ellhnikh oikonomia na leitoyrgei me toys idioys oroys me thn antistoixh germanikh, thn gallikh, thn ispanikh , ktl....... alles anagkes oi kathe xora , allh paragogh, alles yphrhsies, allos tropos zohs , alla ta panta.........

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08-06-2010, 17:48
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08-06-2010, 19:16
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09-06-2010, 03:01

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09-06-2010, 21:22
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09-06-2010, 21:34
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09-06-2010, 22:45
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10-06-2010, 14:32
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