NonBorn
23-12-2007, 23:21
Όπως οι περισσότεροι θα ξέρετε ήδη ίσως ο εσωτερικός σκληρός δίσκος του Playstation 3 δουλεύει στις 5400 στροφές και είναι 2.5". Ωστόσο πρόσφατα στην αγορά έκαναν την εμφάνιση τους σκληροί δίσκοι 2.5" 7200rpm. Και το ερώτημα που τίθεται είναι... Αφού μας δίνεται η δυνατότητα να αναβαθμίσουμε μόνοι μας το σκληρό μας χωρίς να χάσουμε την εγγύηση του PS3 αρκεί ο δίσκος να είναι 2.5" μήπως χρησιμοποιώντας έναν τέτοιο δίσκο (2.5" 7200rpm) έχουμε αυξημένη απόδοση στο ps3 μας? Ή μήπως ο πιο γρήγορος δίσκος θα δημιουργήσει προβλήματα θερμοκρασίας στο Playstation 3?
- Σημαντικές πληροφορίες -
Η χρήση ενός τέτοιου δίσκου (7200rpm) δεν ακυρώνει σε καμία περίπτωση την εγγύηση του μηχανήματος.
Η αλλαγή του σκληρού δίσκου μπορεί να γίνει πολύ εύκολα από εσάς ακολουθώντας τις οδηγίες που έχει μέσα το manual του PS3 σας! Μπορείτε να βρείτε επίσης πληροφορίες καθώς και ένα video για τη διαδικασία στο παρακάτω spoiler. Επίσης thread στο forum που αναφέρονται σε αλλαγή σκληρού δίσκου: Link (http://www.ps3forums.gr/vb/showthread.php?t=1339)
01. How to upgrade your PlayStation 3 Hard Drive (http://www.cnet.com.au/games/ps3/0,239035763,339282375,00.htm)
02. PS3 manual details HDD, battery replacement (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/11/ps3-manual-details-hdd-battery-replacement/)
-B1mQ21XXLE
Ένα άρθρο από το ps3fanboy
7200 rpm HDD may increase your PS3's performance
The standard HDD that comes with your PS3 is 5400 rpm -- not bad, but not the best on the market. We've stumbled across a write-up (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=2000029) detailing the addition of a different hard drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145181), running at 7200 rpm, and its effect on a various array of games and other such things. While we wouldn't recommend you all rush out and do this, as long-term effects can't possibly be gauged just yet, it's still interesting to consider the ways Sony fans can customize their console to be unique. We'll outline the results below.
Temperature testing against the two hard drives yielded a minimal difference; no overheating will occur with a 7200 rpm drive, ostensibly.
Installing demos after downloading off the PSN had an average of ten seconds shaved off due to the higher rpm drive, except that Tony Hawk demo, with destroyed over forty seconds of install time. Impressive.
Loading games generally yielded minimal results, unless you consider 2 seconds of load time a big deal.In conclusion, yes, a 7200 rpm drive increases your PS3's performance, but it's generally nothing that makes soil our underwear. While two seconds off load time is nice, it's not like we'd do much besides scratch ourselves in that time frame. And sometimes, it's a great itch to scratch and playing a game would totally throw us off. Πηγή: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/02/7200-rpm-hdd-may-increase-your-ps3s-performance/
- 7200rpm vs 5400rpm HDD for the PS3 -
Tempature Test
This one has been WAY overhyped. I attached a temperature probe to both drives while they were inside the PS3. Now I did the test in Faherenheit. These temps were the highest temps noted w/ room temp of 78.
5400rpm - 111 degrees / 43.9c
7200rpm - 116 degrees / 46.6c
Yep, only a 5 degree difference between the two. I can safely say there is no risk of using a 7200rpm from the heat. Maybe some of the older 7200's got hotter. But the newer ones don't seem to produce enough heat for this to be a concern.
I changed over and ran some more tests to check exhaust temps. I played different games and even ran F@H just to check on some things and here's what I got.
5400rpm - 129 degrees / 53.9c
7200rpm - 131 degrees / 55.0c
Now these temps are the highest I could hit before the fan kicked in to high. Once that happened, the temps dropped back down. So I don't think the 7200 drive really made much of an impact on temps. There might be some games out there that do a better job at stressing out the PS3, but I don't have any of those.
note: Others may get different results depending on location, air flow, and room temps. For my temps, I tried to maintain a room temp of 78, my PS3 is vertical, and it sits about 3 feet from a cold air duct.Perfomance
1. Installing
Moving along to actual performance. I did this the most acurate way I could. I recorded the PS3 using a tuner card so that I can compare timestamps in the video to get a clear timeframe. I will post all the videos I used at the end of this thread.
First. Install times. I used 4 games for this. And it tested how fast to install the game after downloading it from PSN. I went min:sec.ms.
Note: they were not donloaded in order so their arrangement on the drive was unknown. Yes, this can play a factor in the final numbers. Also dealing with such large files. The cache of the HDD doesn't play as big a part as one would think.
GT-HD
5400rpm - 1:42.636
7200rpm - 1:32.993
Almost 10 seconds off the install time. About 10% increase in speed.
Jericho demo
5400rpm - 2:08.629
7200rpm - 1:58.685
Again, about 10 seconds off install time. And about 8% increase in speed.
Tony Hawk demo
5400rpm - 4:11.184
7200rpm - 3:32.045
Almost 40 seconds off it's install time. Coming in at a nice 16% increase in speed.
DiRT demo
5400rpm - 1:29.289
7200rpm - 1:25.385
This one had 4 seconds shaved off. Not as good, but still about 5% increase in speed.
All said. The installs averaged about a 9 - 10% increase in speed. Not bad really. 2. File Transfer
Now let's look at a file transfer. Although it still has the USB bottleneck of 480Mb/s and I am aware of this bottleneck. The results were different. I tested this with an external 7200rpm HDD.
188MB file transfer
5400rpm - 16.316
7200rpm - 14.882
That was 1.5 seconds off the transfer rate. Coming in at about 9% increase in speed. Again. This is not a bad increase in speed.
3. Loading
Moving along to game loading times. I used 2 Demos and 1 full game for this part.
Jericho level load
5400rpm - 17.417
7200rpm - 16.650
Shaved off almost a second. With almost 5% increase in speed.
Tony Hawk startup load
5400rpm - 18.285
7200rpm - 17.351
Same, almost one second off load time and about 5% increase in speed.
Now this last test I used Oblivion since it keeps a large amount of data on the HDD. This is a good way of seeing how games might act if future games incorporate the same abilities. I did 3 loading tests on this one.
Oblivion Initial load
5400rpm - 21.355
7200rpm - 19.253
Just over 2 seconds off loading time. Close to 10% increase.
2nd load (map change)
5400rpm - 10.244
7200rpm - 09.543
Almost a second off load time. But a 7% increase in speed.
3rd load (another map change)
5400rpm - 12.479
7200rpm - 10.110
That one was nice at almost 2.5 seconds off. And a wopping 19% increase in speed.
Τα videos της σύγκρισης...
And here are the Videos I used to gather the data I used. All are in Divx format btw. Quality was a low priority.
All the videos done on the 5400rpm drive.
DiRT Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20DiRT%20install.avi)
GT-HD Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20GT-HD%20install.avi)
Jericho Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Jericho%20install.avi)
Tony Hawk Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20install.avi)
File Transfe (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20File%20Copy%20to%20Ext7200rpm.avi)r (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20File%20Copy%20to%20Ext7200rpm.avi)
Jericho Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Jericho%20Loading.avi)
Tony Hawk Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20Loading.avi)
Oblivion Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Oblivion%20Loading.avi)
All the videos using the 7200rpm drive
DiRT Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20DiRT%20install.avi)
GT-HD Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20GT-HD%20install.avi)
Jericho Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Jericho%20install.avi)
Tony Hawk Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20install.avi)
File Transfer (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20File%20Copy%20to%20Ext7200rpm.avi)
Jericho Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Jericho%20Loading.avi)
Tony Hawk Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20Loading.avi)
Oblivion Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Oblivion%20Loading.avi)Πηγή: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=2000029
- Σημαντικές πληροφορίες -
Η χρήση ενός τέτοιου δίσκου (7200rpm) δεν ακυρώνει σε καμία περίπτωση την εγγύηση του μηχανήματος.
Η αλλαγή του σκληρού δίσκου μπορεί να γίνει πολύ εύκολα από εσάς ακολουθώντας τις οδηγίες που έχει μέσα το manual του PS3 σας! Μπορείτε να βρείτε επίσης πληροφορίες καθώς και ένα video για τη διαδικασία στο παρακάτω spoiler. Επίσης thread στο forum που αναφέρονται σε αλλαγή σκληρού δίσκου: Link (http://www.ps3forums.gr/vb/showthread.php?t=1339)
01. How to upgrade your PlayStation 3 Hard Drive (http://www.cnet.com.au/games/ps3/0,239035763,339282375,00.htm)
02. PS3 manual details HDD, battery replacement (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/11/ps3-manual-details-hdd-battery-replacement/)
-B1mQ21XXLE
Ένα άρθρο από το ps3fanboy
7200 rpm HDD may increase your PS3's performance
The standard HDD that comes with your PS3 is 5400 rpm -- not bad, but not the best on the market. We've stumbled across a write-up (http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=2000029) detailing the addition of a different hard drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145181), running at 7200 rpm, and its effect on a various array of games and other such things. While we wouldn't recommend you all rush out and do this, as long-term effects can't possibly be gauged just yet, it's still interesting to consider the ways Sony fans can customize their console to be unique. We'll outline the results below.
Temperature testing against the two hard drives yielded a minimal difference; no overheating will occur with a 7200 rpm drive, ostensibly.
Installing demos after downloading off the PSN had an average of ten seconds shaved off due to the higher rpm drive, except that Tony Hawk demo, with destroyed over forty seconds of install time. Impressive.
Loading games generally yielded minimal results, unless you consider 2 seconds of load time a big deal.In conclusion, yes, a 7200 rpm drive increases your PS3's performance, but it's generally nothing that makes soil our underwear. While two seconds off load time is nice, it's not like we'd do much besides scratch ourselves in that time frame. And sometimes, it's a great itch to scratch and playing a game would totally throw us off. Πηγή: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/02/7200-rpm-hdd-may-increase-your-ps3s-performance/
- 7200rpm vs 5400rpm HDD for the PS3 -
Tempature Test
This one has been WAY overhyped. I attached a temperature probe to both drives while they were inside the PS3. Now I did the test in Faherenheit. These temps were the highest temps noted w/ room temp of 78.
5400rpm - 111 degrees / 43.9c
7200rpm - 116 degrees / 46.6c
Yep, only a 5 degree difference between the two. I can safely say there is no risk of using a 7200rpm from the heat. Maybe some of the older 7200's got hotter. But the newer ones don't seem to produce enough heat for this to be a concern.
I changed over and ran some more tests to check exhaust temps. I played different games and even ran F@H just to check on some things and here's what I got.
5400rpm - 129 degrees / 53.9c
7200rpm - 131 degrees / 55.0c
Now these temps are the highest I could hit before the fan kicked in to high. Once that happened, the temps dropped back down. So I don't think the 7200 drive really made much of an impact on temps. There might be some games out there that do a better job at stressing out the PS3, but I don't have any of those.
note: Others may get different results depending on location, air flow, and room temps. For my temps, I tried to maintain a room temp of 78, my PS3 is vertical, and it sits about 3 feet from a cold air duct.Perfomance
1. Installing
Moving along to actual performance. I did this the most acurate way I could. I recorded the PS3 using a tuner card so that I can compare timestamps in the video to get a clear timeframe. I will post all the videos I used at the end of this thread.
First. Install times. I used 4 games for this. And it tested how fast to install the game after downloading it from PSN. I went min:sec.ms.
Note: they were not donloaded in order so their arrangement on the drive was unknown. Yes, this can play a factor in the final numbers. Also dealing with such large files. The cache of the HDD doesn't play as big a part as one would think.
GT-HD
5400rpm - 1:42.636
7200rpm - 1:32.993
Almost 10 seconds off the install time. About 10% increase in speed.
Jericho demo
5400rpm - 2:08.629
7200rpm - 1:58.685
Again, about 10 seconds off install time. And about 8% increase in speed.
Tony Hawk demo
5400rpm - 4:11.184
7200rpm - 3:32.045
Almost 40 seconds off it's install time. Coming in at a nice 16% increase in speed.
DiRT demo
5400rpm - 1:29.289
7200rpm - 1:25.385
This one had 4 seconds shaved off. Not as good, but still about 5% increase in speed.
All said. The installs averaged about a 9 - 10% increase in speed. Not bad really. 2. File Transfer
Now let's look at a file transfer. Although it still has the USB bottleneck of 480Mb/s and I am aware of this bottleneck. The results were different. I tested this with an external 7200rpm HDD.
188MB file transfer
5400rpm - 16.316
7200rpm - 14.882
That was 1.5 seconds off the transfer rate. Coming in at about 9% increase in speed. Again. This is not a bad increase in speed.
3. Loading
Moving along to game loading times. I used 2 Demos and 1 full game for this part.
Jericho level load
5400rpm - 17.417
7200rpm - 16.650
Shaved off almost a second. With almost 5% increase in speed.
Tony Hawk startup load
5400rpm - 18.285
7200rpm - 17.351
Same, almost one second off load time and about 5% increase in speed.
Now this last test I used Oblivion since it keeps a large amount of data on the HDD. This is a good way of seeing how games might act if future games incorporate the same abilities. I did 3 loading tests on this one.
Oblivion Initial load
5400rpm - 21.355
7200rpm - 19.253
Just over 2 seconds off loading time. Close to 10% increase.
2nd load (map change)
5400rpm - 10.244
7200rpm - 09.543
Almost a second off load time. But a 7% increase in speed.
3rd load (another map change)
5400rpm - 12.479
7200rpm - 10.110
That one was nice at almost 2.5 seconds off. And a wopping 19% increase in speed.
Τα videos της σύγκρισης...
And here are the Videos I used to gather the data I used. All are in Divx format btw. Quality was a low priority.
All the videos done on the 5400rpm drive.
DiRT Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20DiRT%20install.avi)
GT-HD Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20GT-HD%20install.avi)
Jericho Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Jericho%20install.avi)
Tony Hawk Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20install.avi)
File Transfe (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20File%20Copy%20to%20Ext7200rpm.avi)r (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20File%20Copy%20to%20Ext7200rpm.avi)
Jericho Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Jericho%20Loading.avi)
Tony Hawk Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20Loading.avi)
Oblivion Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/5400rpm%20Oblivion%20Loading.avi)
All the videos using the 7200rpm drive
DiRT Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20DiRT%20install.avi)
GT-HD Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20GT-HD%20install.avi)
Jericho Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Jericho%20install.avi)
Tony Hawk Install (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20install.avi)
File Transfer (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20File%20Copy%20to%20Ext7200rpm.avi)
Jericho Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Jericho%20Loading.avi)
Tony Hawk Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Tony%20Hawk%20Loading.avi)
Oblivion Loading (http://www.malamber.org/gaw/PS3/7200rpm%20Oblivion%20Loading.avi)Πηγή: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=2000029